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TSilovestitch
post Sep 3 2017, 12:30 PM, updated 9y ago

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Hi guys,

May i know the pros and cons of using hood and induction? Built in or portable?

I am currently planning on the kitchen cabinet side. My concern is if i were to choose built in for either a hob or induction, and i have my table top cut to fit it? will it be a problem if next time i will need to replace it, and i have to find the same size back to fit into the cutting. Thanks

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post Sep 3 2017, 12:50 PM

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If you buy induction hobs from Euro company, they got a few standard sizes. One of them is 600mm. If you need a new replacement in the future, finding another one of that size is not a problem

As for the hood, get a 900mm wall hung. Dunno what's your concern with hoods. You only need to decide if you want recirculating hoods or vented ones

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post Sep 3 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 3 2017, 12:50 PM)
If you buy induction hobs from Euro company, they got a few standard sizes. One of them is 600mm. If you need a new replacement in the future, finding another one of that size is not a problem

As for the hood, get a 900mm wall hung. Dunno what's your concern with hoods. You only need to decide if you want recirculating hoods or vented ones
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post Sep 4 2017, 01:46 PM

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Are you Asian??? Because induction is not really suitable for Asian style cooking. I have an induction installed, and haven't been using it since initial installed. 😖😖😖😖😖
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post Sep 4 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(cuber @ Sep 4 2017, 01:46 PM)
Are you Asian??? Because induction is not really suitable for Asian style cooking. I have an induction installed, and haven't been using it since initial installed. 😖😖😖😖😖
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You can still use induction cookers for Asian cooking but limited to shallow frying pan instead of the large kuali. You can still stir-fry but will not be able to stir it high up into the air together with the kuali moving with all the hand action.

You would also need to check your electricity bill as induction cookers use up a lot of electricity.
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post Sep 4 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Sep 4 2017, 07:44 PM)
You can still use induction cookers for Asian cooking but limited to shallow frying pan instead of the large kuali. You can still stir-fry but will not be able to stir it high up into the air together with the kuali moving with all the hand action.

You would also need to check your electricity bill as induction cookers use up a lot of electricity.
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if i use build in, next time wanna replace with new one,easy to find a new one that can fit in on the existing hole cut on table top? is the size standard across all induction or hob?
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post Sep 4 2017, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Sep 4 2017, 07:44 PM)
You can still use induction cookers for Asian cooking but limited to shallow frying pan instead of the large kuali. You can still stir-fry but will not be able to stir it high up into the air together with the kuali moving with all the hand action.

You would also need to check your electricity bill as induction cookers use up a lot of electricity.
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I heard induction is more energy efficient
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post Sep 5 2017, 12:32 PM

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I realised some hobs uses 15amp whereas some 13amp (lower range hobs). If I asked my electrician to wire a 15amp switch now and then decides to use a hob that uses 13amp, is it ok? From what I know, 15amp uses round pin and 13amp is normal pin.

Also, I read somewhere that we can ask the electrician to connect the switch (which is usually below the table top) to another switch on the wall above the table top (something like a water heater switch) so that it is easier for us to switch on/off the hob. Is it feasible? How much is the wiring cost for such method (concealed wiring)?

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post Sep 5 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(EneriW @ Sep 5 2017, 12:32 PM)
I realised some hobs uses 15amp whereas some 13amp (lower range hobs). If I asked my electrician to wire a 15amp switch now and then decides to use a hob that uses 13amp, is it ok? From what I know, 15amp uses round pin and 13amp is normal pin.

Also, I read somewhere that we can ask the electrician to connect the switch (which is usually below the table top) to another switch on the wall above the table top (something like a water heater switch) so that it is easier for us to switch on/off the hob. Is it feasible? How much is the wiring cost for such method (concealed wiring)?
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My electrician wired it terus to 45amp switch. No plug no socket. I leave it turned on 24x7

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post Sep 5 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(EneriW @ Sep 5 2017, 12:32 PM)
I realised some hobs uses 15amp whereas some 13amp (lower range hobs). If I asked my electrician to wire a 15amp switch now and then decides to use a hob that uses 13amp, is it ok? From what I know, 15amp uses round pin and 13amp is normal pin.

Also, I read somewhere that we can ask the electrician to connect the switch (which is usually below the table top) to another switch on the wall above the table top (something like a water heater switch) so that it is easier for us to switch on/off the hob. Is it feasible? How much is the wiring cost for such method (concealed wiring)?
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Use 40A switch on top the table but away from the hob. Than wire down to the hob.

No need 15A or 13A socket.

High or low power hob also can use.
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Thanks for the suggestions! Will discuss them with my contractor.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 5 2017, 05:32 PM)
Use 40A switch on top the table but away from the hob. Than wire down to the hob.

No need 15A or 13A socket.

High or low power hob also can use.
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I took a look at mine today, yes mine is a 45 amp double pole switch
Forgot I had so much problem finding this switch
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 7 2017, 09:27 PM)
I took a look at mine today, yes mine is a 45 amp double pole switch
Forgot I had so much problem finding this switch
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Now I only that 45A switch normally is called "Cooker Switch" in western country.

It design for switching electric hot plate hob. You know those hob use very high consumption and high current.

Since many here start to use induction hob, but many still don't know use such switch.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 8 2017, 08:54 AM)
Now I only that 45A switch normally is called "Cooker Switch" in western country.

It design for switching electric hot plate hob. You know those hob use very high consumption and high current.

Since many here start to use induction hob, but many still don't know use such switch.
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Very difficult to find....
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post Sep 8 2017, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 8 2017, 09:18 AM)
Very difficult to find....
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This thing expert only know how to use wan. thumbsup.gif

Normally such rare thing here, I just place the order. As long as they accept the order. No need find here and there.
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QUOTE(ilovestitch @ Sep 3 2017, 12:30 PM)
Hi guys,

May i know the pros and cons of using hood and induction? Built in or portable?

I am currently planning on the kitchen cabinet side. My concern is if i were to choose built in for either a hob or induction, and i have my table top cut to fit it? will it be a problem if next time i will need to replace it, and i have to find the same size back to fit into the cutting. Thanks
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easier to find replacement for gas hob compared to induction hob.

My suggestion,
1) Shortlist while hob u wanna buy
2) Then find other brands to see whether they have a fitting size or not? If yes, that means in future ezier to find replacement.

if it is an OEM brand, might be hard to find replacement but own factory like FOTILE and RINNAI they usually use back the same cut out size even they manufacture new models. While OEM, new model could be from difference factory hence different cut out size
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post Sep 10 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Sep 4 2017, 07:44 PM)
You can still use induction cookers for Asian cooking but limited to shallow frying pan instead of the large kuali. You can still stir-fry but will not be able to stir it high up into the air together with the kuali moving with all the hand action.

You would also need to check your electricity bill as induction cookers use up a lot of electricity.
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so what is your recommendation?

Induction better fixed or portable? i know fixed you need drill the hole install and apply sealant but it's fixed thus studier while portable you just plug & cook and can move around but not as stable? but both function the same in terms of performance or somehow portable performs less than fixed?

for hob is you need to change gas and have to think about safety & leaking gas tong. is fixed or portable better?

or get both induction & hob?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 8 2017, 08:54 AM)
Now I only that 45A switch normally is called "Cooker Switch" in western country.

It design for switching electric hot plate hob. You know those hob use very high consumption and high current.

Since many here start to use induction hob, but many still don't know use such switch.
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hi, do hobs use power plugs or they only provide the wires you need to connect?

if you use a switch, means you can only use it for the hobs and nothing else?

is there such a thing as 40-45A socket? so if you decide to use portable hoobs you can still use the same socket? and what cable rating should you be using for the 40-45A socket/switch?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 10 2017, 12:32 PM)
hi, do hobs use power plugs or they only provide the wires you need to connect?

if you use a switch, means you can only use it for the hobs and nothing else?

is there such a thing as 40-45A socket? so if you decide to use portable hoobs you can still use the same socket? and what cable rating should you be using for the 40-45A socket/switch?
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High watt hobs don't use plug. Require to direct join screw in.

The switch is only mean for 1 item use. You can't share with others high watt thing.

It only come in 45A switch. That switch don't have 3pin plug socket. It mean for direct join to the hob.

At least 4mm wire.

When buy kitchen electrical appliances or any appliances, always check the wattage. When you ask some question here, tell the item wattage usage. People can tell you more detail the answer. Rather a general.
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post Sep 10 2017, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 10 2017, 12:07 PM)
so what is your recommendation?

Induction better fixed or portable? i know fixed you need drill the hole install and apply sealant but it's fixed thus studier while portable you just plug & cook and can move around but not as stable? but both function the same in terms of performance or somehow portable performs less than fixed?

for hob is you need to change gas and have to think about safety & leaking gas tong. is fixed or portable better?

or get both induction & hob?
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Sorry, I don't recommend induction but that does not mean it is not useful. It's just that i don't find it practical just like the other poster above me posted much earlier which I tend to agree. Induction cookers are common in European countries. Here in Malaysia I don't think there are many who use induction cookers albeit a few who might prefer it due to some cooking styles or other reasons.

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