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TSrhytion
post Aug 31 2017, 07:18 PM, updated 7y ago

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I currently have an i5-3450 CPU and a R7 240 graphics card in my computer, so I'm wondering if upgrading to a GTX 750 Ti would increase the exporting time in Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017? Any help is much appreciated.
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QUOTE(rhytion @ Aug 31 2017, 07:18 PM)
I currently have an i5-3450 CPU and a R7 240 graphics card in my computer, so I'm wondering if upgrading to a GTX 750 Ti would increase the exporting time in Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017? Any help is much appreciated.
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Premier Pro rendering time is mostly dependant on processors speed not gpu.
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post Sep 18 2017, 06:43 PM

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If I would you, both CPU and GPU is important when it comes to video editing and rendering. Just upgrade both, to both Intel i7 CPU and AMD RX series / Nvidia GTX series.
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post Sep 18 2017, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2017, 06:43 PM)
If I would you, both CPU and GPU is important when it comes to video editing and rendering. Just upgrade both, to both Intel i7 CPU and AMD RX series / Nvidia GTX series.
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Since I'm on quite a tight budget, would a Xeon E5-2660 V1 & GTX 1050 be a good option?

This post has been edited by rhytion: Sep 18 2017, 07:07 PM
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post Sep 18 2017, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(rhytion @ Sep 18 2017, 07:02 PM)
Since I'm on quite a tight budget, would a Xeon E5-2660 V1 & GTX 1050 be a good option?
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GTX 1050 is good enough, but not the best for 4K (UHD) video editing rendering la.

Which CPU socket you use? Is it LGA 1151?
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post Sep 18 2017, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2017, 09:12 PM)
GTX 1050 is good enough, but not the best for 4K (UHD) video editing rendering la.

Which CPU socket you use? Is it LGA 1151?
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I'm planning to get an older LGA 2011 Xeon E5-2660, 8c 16t, 2.2ghz, currently using LGA1155
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post Sep 18 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(rhytion @ Sep 18 2017, 09:14 PM)
I'm planning to get an older LGA 2011 Xeon E5-2660, 8c 16t, 2.2ghz, currently using LGA1155
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Why go for the older LGA 2011 when you can get latest LGA 1151 motherboard that is available today?
What's your budget?
And currently how's your desktop spces like?
What kind of video do you edit? Use what software?
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post Sep 18 2017, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 18 2017, 09:28 PM)
Why go for the older LGA 2011 when you can get latest LGA 1151 motherboard that is available today?
What's your budget?
And currently how's your desktop spces like?
What kind of video do you edit? Use what software?
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Budget around 2K. Currently running i5-3450 and Asus R7 240. Using Adobe Premier Pro, mainly editing 4K video from DJI Osmo and exporting to 1080P.

Edit: Managed to find an i7-2700k for around RM700, would that be a good option since I don't need to upgrade my motherboard?

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post Sep 21 2017, 05:02 PM

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Rule of thumb, always upgrade cpu first before upgrading gpu.

Because

1. many functions of premiere pro are not gpu accelerated.
2. Support for gpu is limited to certain cards.

Very often you will see gpu 0% when doing most tasks, even with 3d elements put in when encoding the video.

For cpu, go for benchmarks to compare.

So when can you start putting money into gpu ? Where is the bottle neck?

Maybe when you reach threadripper level then you might consider gpu.
Even with gpu, you will probably only get 20% utilisation on your gpu whereas you will get 99.9% multi core use with your threadripper.


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post Sep 21 2017, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Sep 21 2017, 05:02 PM)
Rule of thumb, always upgrade cpu first before upgrading gpu.

Because

1. many functions of premiere pro are not gpu accelerated.
2. Support for gpu is limited to certain cards.

Very often you will see gpu 0% when doing most tasks, even with 3d elements put in when encoding the video.

For cpu, go for benchmarks to compare.

So when can you start putting money into gpu ? Where is the bottle neck?

Maybe when you reach threadripper level then you might consider gpu.
Even with gpu, you will probably only get 20% utilisation on your gpu whereas you will get 99.9% multi core use with your threadripper.
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If so, would it be a good option to get a Ryzen 5 1600 and just keep my current graphics card?
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post Sep 21 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(rhytion @ Sep 21 2017, 09:33 PM)
If so, would it be a good option to get a Ryzen 5 1600 and just keep my current graphics card?
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Ok be honest to yourself, what have you done on your Premiere that racks up the gpu. Have you tracked it?
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post Sep 21 2017, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Sep 21 2017, 09:41 PM)
Ok be honest to yourself, what have you done on your Premiere that racks up the gpu. Have you tracked it?
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I added effects like color correction, adjusted some settings on the color graph, and some track matte key effects. Those are the only effect I applied.
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QUOTE(rhytion @ Sep 21 2017, 10:09 PM)
I added effects like color correction, adjusted some settings on the color graph, and some track matte key effects. Those are the only effect I applied.
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Yeah but did you notice your gpu even go above 1%?

Those settings by right don't use gpu acceleration.

I have forced gpu acceleration with 980ti, and the rendering is even slower than the non oc i7-4790k alone.

But that said, my pc is not primarily video editing, so the gpu purchase isn't a regrettable purchase.

But from a purely video editing standpoint, the cost is not justified until you cap your cpu.
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post Sep 21 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Sep 21 2017, 10:34 PM)
Yeah but did you notice your gpu even go above 1%?

Those settings by right don't use gpu acceleration.

I have forced gpu acceleration with 980ti, and the rendering is even slower than the non oc i7-4790k alone.

But that said, my pc is not primarily video editing, so the gpu purchase isn't a regrettable purchase.

But from a purely video editing standpoint, the cost is not justified until you cap your cpu.
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I notice when I export the video initially, the GPU usage goes up to 99% but when the video is exported for a second time, the CPU usage goes up to 100% instead.
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post Sep 21 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(rhytion @ Sep 21 2017, 10:36 PM)
I notice when I export the video initially, the GPU usage goes up to 99% but when the video is exported for a second time, the CPU usage goes up to 100% instead.
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Same settings?
Same video?

Adobe has a very short list of functions that benefit from gpu actually. I thought the gpu acceleration was a big deal from the guides online until i saw the real numbers and then went to the forum to learn gpu is not quite the usual system people run for video. That is also why Ryzen, a multicore cpu bragged on their Cinebench data instead of gaming data.

My exports has never touched the gpu one bit, mostly because my simple setting has not touched those ones they listed.
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Sep 21 2017, 10:50 PM)
Same settings?
Same video?

Adobe has a very short list of functions that benefit from gpu actually. I thought the gpu acceleration was a big deal from the guides online until i saw the real numbers and then went to the forum to learn gpu is not quite the usual system people run for video. That is also why Ryzen, a multicore cpu bragged on their Cinebench data instead of gaming data.

My exports has never touched the gpu one bit, mostly because my simple setting has not touched those ones they listed.
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Yes. No settings touched, same 4K footage from DJI OSMO exported to 1080p h.264.
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post Sep 21 2017, 10:54 PM

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CPU.

I'm using a lowly GPU, the RX 560 for my video rig that runs Ryzen 7 1800X.

For such work it's always CPU first. Get the most powerful CPU you can afford, GPU you buy already no guarantee faster work.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 21 2017, 10:54 PM)
CPU.

I'm using a lowly GPU, the RX 560 for my video rig that runs Ryzen 7 1800X.

For such work it's always CPU first. Get the most powerful CPU you can afford, GPU you buy already no guarantee faster work.
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post Sep 21 2017, 11:06 PM

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Don't waste money on Xeon E5-2660, 8c 16t, 2.2ghz.

So old. What's your budget again? RM 2k?

Corsair LPX DDR4 2x 8GB = RM 600.
RYZEN 5 1600 = RM 1039
ASRock AB350M HDV = RM 335

Total cost - RM 2k, sell off your old parts - cost refuse further.
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Sep 21 2017, 10:56 PM)
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