Right now I only have 4 BD movies :
1. M:I III
2. Ice Age Meltdown
3. 300
4. TMNT


Note: This thread is strictly for Blu-ray Disc discussions only. No more format war please.

This post has been edited by neoardi: Sep 19 2007, 07:32 AM

Hi there,
before BD chooses VC1, I will stay away from it... The quality is poooooorrrrr..... I bought one (House of Flying Dagger)...

I think original Region 1 DVD could be better than the BD with MPEG2 compression...

I also prefer to have at least Dolby TrueHD (though IIRC BD doesnt support it in its mandatory spec)... I dont want to hear DD in BD... A US$35 disc for MPEG2 video and DD sound? No kiddin...

Sorry to say... but Sony has to fix this problem immidiately...

Thanks.

U were saying that the ol' DVD better than BD movies.
I dont want to argue about this but hv u seen BD movies on the 1080p LCD screens. I've seen it. The PQ is sooo sharp and the colours are vivid. If u've seen it then u dont want to go back to DVDs (at least for me la ).
BTW, i bought both BD movies @ Amazon.com for *edited*USD28*edited* each and it worth it.
And thanks for ur opinion.

This post has been edited by neoardi: Apr 10 2007, 10:48 PM

I have only 2 BD titles Underworld Evolution and MI Box set. Like what TS said, once u had watched BD movies, u dun feel like watching DVD anymore.

This has got to be the first complaint about BD quality.

Perhaps chinese titles are a no no for HD quality dvd.

From what I've heard the earlier BD titles have pretty mediocre picture quality though now the later ones can or at least almost match HD DVD's quality.Haven't personally tested them so I don't know...

I'm talking the BD movie with MPEG2 compression, NOT the VC1... so you better check which one that you have... lucky if you have title with VC1 compression...

The earlier version (almost all of the BD movie, at first) were encoded in MPEG2. This is simply no good (blocky image, color problem, ghosting effect, etc). I've a lot of friend in US/Canada, who returned back their BD Player and switched to HD-DVD. Dont have to ask why.

I bought one, "The House of Flying Dagger" and see myself the "great picture" from a BD movie I was so dissapointed. When I play it on my notebook (the Acer with BD drive), I can see it clearly on the PowerDVD's OSD that the movie was MPEG2 with DD audio track. It has become a "public secret" that BD with MPEG2 is a disaster...



Perhaps you are lucky because you buy newer movie (perhaps encoded in VC1 - I dont know because I dont have that movie). For this case, I have to admit that the PQ is good, just as good (actually totally the same) with HD-DVD quality.

But how about the sound track? Does it use "old" DD track? Too bad for me since, this is the same format with your old DVD. I dont think BD can support PCM uncompressed until Sony can mass product for its dual layer media. Lossless PCM simply can't fit the 25 GB BD single layer.

Thanks

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Added on April 10, 2007, 11:21 pmYes you are correct.

The earlier title was poooooorrrrr.... You dont even want to spend US$ 1000-1500 (the price for BD Player at that time) to buy such crappy video (at least at that price point)...

But the latter title (encoded in VC1) should have competitive quality to HD-DVD (actually same quality hehehe).

The final problem is the sound track. BD can't use uncompressed PCM for its single layer BD disc. It just doesnt fit there... So stick with old DD track, unless Sony want to pay more for Dolby TrueHD (as used in HD-DVD).

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Added on April 10, 2007, 11:26 pmI think if you search around, there are a lot of people complaining about this "BD with MPEG2 compression"... I dont believe at first, just like you, but when I buy one of the "MPEG2 BD" title, "The House of Flying Dagger" then I have to admit that the complain is totally right...

I think BD will beat HD-DVD because you cant get movie produced by Sony's Studio (and their friends) at HD-DVD format... so, like it or not, you have to buy BD for watching Sony's produced movie...

Anyway, Sony has moved to right path by using VC1... the old MPEG2 or AVC Compression at first used for BD was simply disaster...



This post has been edited by xneakers: Apr 10 2007, 11:26 PM

xneakers, u were right about BD movies using the ancient DD track (in this case the M:I III). The Ice Age using DTS HD 5.1 Master Lossless audio. But, both movies that i hv are still using the MPEG-2 compression with a higher bit rate (maybe 18mbps, not really sure). But then BD are really catching up its rival. We'll see. Hehehe.

This post has been edited by neoardi: Apr 10 2007, 11:53 PM

Hahaha... when it comes to VC1, so BD should be on the same level with HD-DVD...

So the problem is on the audio track... Dolby TrueHD is mandatory in HD-DVD spec, but I guess not for BD... We'll see how Sony will handle this...

Hmm not quite true, a lot of HD DVDs don't have Dolby True HD in their audio track but has Dolby Digital Plus instead.Don't know exactly what is that but it has to be better than the ancient Dolby Digital.It seems that the newer HD DVDs have Dolby True HD though.

anyone getting the Plant Earth on BD/HD-DVD platform@amazon,

the preview seems to be very interesting and its definately

worth getting as a demo disc for yr new plasma/LCD. or

if anyone have the DVD edition, can you give more comments bout

this documentary ?

Yup, but in HD-DVD the lowest audio format is Dolby Digital Plus (1500Kbps), while in BD still stuck with Dolby Digital (640 Kbps). You can see the different and it's quite significant.



Yup, 1500 Kbps vs 640 Kbps Quite significant.

According to Dolby spec for DDPlus:
Bit rate performance of at least 3 Mbps on HD DVD and up to 1.7 Mbps on Blu-ray Disc.



Yes, HD-DVD currently supports DDPlus or Dolby TrueHD, while BD supports DD or PCM Uncompressed.

I dont think PCM Uncompressed is a wise idea. You need at least 45-50 GB (dual layer BD or triple layer HD-DVD) for it, while you can get "same" quality with TrueHD lossless compression...

Thanks.

Lesson learnt so far: Don't buy HD movies yet ... wait for better quality and better content from future re-releases.

Well, most Blu-Ray titles are using MPEG-2 compression instead of VC-1 even though they have dual layered Blu-Ray discs. The funny thing why use the standard DD or DTS tracks in some movies. Shouldn't HD movies come with HD soundtrack too and since we're paying a premium for them, I guess we deserve something better.

The picture quality of MI3 on the Blu-Ray isn't that good if compared to HD-DVD's version. I'm not saying that Blu-Ray titles are inferior but they're encoded with MPEG-2 when they can simply use VC-1 and the audio tracks are questionable, why DD and DTS. At least all HD-DVD titles come with a minimum of DD Plus, at least it sounded better than the normal DD and DTS tracks.

I guess the Blu-Ray camp needs to get their acts right if they wanna compete with HD-DVD.

IIRC (read somewhere), Sony doesnt want to use VC1 due to royalty that they have to pay if they want to use VC1.



They simply dont want pay more money to get the formats. Sony have to pay royalty to use those HD formats.



For sure, because it's MPEG2.



I think Sony has realized it. Some studios already released the BD with VC1 and improving their audio track (perhaps with better HD format support).

They will hehehe...

After doing some collective researching, much of a surprise that there's actually more than 40 BD titles using the most hyped VC-1 codec. Here's the list

Dog Day Afternoon
A Scanner Darkly
National Geographic: Relentless Enemies
Enter the Dragon
March of the Penguins
The Dirty Dozen
Happy Feet
The Sopranos: Season Six, Part One
The Getaway (1972)
Bullitt
Nine Inch Nails Live: Beside You in Time
The Departed
Casanova
Beerfest
The Wicker Man (2006)
Scooby-Doo (2002)
GoodFellas
The Last Samurai
Lady in the Water
Flightplan
The Ant Bully
A Christmas Story
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
The Phantom of the Opera
Superman Returns
Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
Superman: The Movie
Million Dollar Baby
ATL
Under Siege
The Searchers
Unforgiven
16 Blocks
Syriana
The Lake House
House of Wax (2005)
Swordfish
Lethal Weapon 2
Corpse Bride
Lethal Weapon
Firewall
Blazing Saddles

Maybe there's more, guys please do add the list. Thanks.

This post has been edited by neoardi: Apr 12 2007, 03:10 PM

Although I dun have a Bluray player yet, I am really getting into this HD stuff. So I am watching this and the other thread discussing HD software closely. Coz finally that software titles and its availability is most important.

I thought that it will take awhile for Bluray to be come mainstream, but Sony is releasing more titles every day and as sales of PS3 and Vaios pick up.... soon there will be thousands of Bluray players out there.... Very clever this Sony.

Cheers

This post has been edited by jasonlky: Apr 12 2007, 03:06 PM

BD disc how much?i heard is expensive..but is super high quality picture!!

Here, some forumer quoted RM170++ (cineliesure) and also some quoted an insane price for RM280 (hartamas)
But mine bought from amazon.com for USD28 only , evenmore now they have some crazy discounts.

If I remember correctly its about RM160 for newer titles at the DVD shop in Cineleisure.If you get from Amazon its much cheaper as long as you don't get taxed

My next buy (maybe next month) for BD movies wud be Pirates of Carribean 2 and either Happy Feet or Monster House.

that's what I was told by a friend of mine that Amazon does offer very good price. Great!

So, how does one know that the title is VC encoded or compressed? Is it written on the covers? I don't see that info on Amazon's pages as well.

Have to wait for user reviews before knowing, u mean?

Havent watch one of the Blue Ray movie yet but i'm sure it will be better than DVD movies since it does not compress anything due to the bigger size of the Blue Ray

If thats how you are justifying the purchase/upgrade, then you must prepare yourself to double/triple/quadruple dip in the future. There will be lots of rererere-releases of better quality for HD movies.

The disc space is not fully utilised properly now as is

I own and have watched several Blu-Ray movies. The one with really outstanding PQ is Crank. Guess its because it was shot entirely in HD as well.
If anyone is interested, I don't mind temporarily trading with another title and so that you can see for yourself how 1080p should really look!

If interested, I have 11 blue ray titles available for exchange, but the others even the newer titles like In Pursuit Of Happiness or Casino Royale can't match Crank's PQ.

This post has been edited by yjtay: Apr 13 2007, 11:05 PM

Err... not that simple... Here's some stupid way to explain...

Find out the standard DVD resolution, I forget the exact number, around 720x480 or something?

Find out the BD resolution, around 1920x1080.

720x480 = 345.600
1920x1080 = 2.073.600

The ratio between the DVD and BD size should be around 1:6.

Let's say the standard Video bitrate for DVD is 7 Mb/s.

Then to achieve same result in 1080p for BD in MPEG2, you will need at least 6 time more bitrate... around 42 Mb/s.

Now check your BD's video bitrate (with MPEG2 compression). Around 17-20 Mb/s only!!! This simple wont produce best result (as we have discussed before, you need around 42 MB/s for achieve high quality movie at 1080p). Blocky image, artefact, etc are the common view for this case.

You may ask, why dont BD use those 42 Mb/s video bitrate? Because, with this bitrate, the 25 GB single layer BD media will not even enough to hold a full length movie! While a 50 GB dual layer BD media is still too expensive.

So, MPEG2 for BD is simply a silly things. You should move to VC1.

With the same bitrate, VC1 simply means better quality than MPEG2, even VC1 can use lower bitrate to achieve same/better result compared with MPEG2 movie (just like comparing MPEG with DivX).

Again, my suggestion, don't buy BD with MPEG2 or you shall regret yourself. I dont pick HD-DVD or BD side. Both are good, only if in VC1.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by xneakers: Apr 13 2007, 11:35 PM

This webpage indicates what codec does a BD movies uses.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html

BTW, BD also using AVC-MP4 codec.

Well, if you wanna know whether the movie is using MPEG-2 or VC-1 compression, you can always surf this site, http://www.dvdtown.com and they have very detailed reviews on all major HD titles including the audio tracks used as well.

Blu-Ray has potential if they start to ditch the ancient MPEG-2 compression thingy from their latest movies. Nobody wants to watch Black Hawk Down on Blu-Ray dual layer with MPEG-2 compression. Come on Sony, do you want to end up like your infamous Betamax format? I'm not a Toshiba supporter or what but at least they did the right thing and also to offer HD-DVD players at attractive prices.

The AVC is still inferior compared with VC1...

So, in addition, forget BD with MPEG2 or AVC

Technically MPEG-2 is inferior to H.264/AVC which in turn is inferior to VC-1.
Also technically with the approriate hardware, VC-1 advance profile, L4 is able to reach a maximum bit rate of 135 Mbit/s at 1920 x 1080 / 60 (1080p) .
However what is technically true may not be true to your eyes and ears!
I have personally tested out the following 4 titles :
Casino Royale - Codec AVC,
The Prestige - Codec AVC,
The Departed - Codec VC-1 and
Crank - Codec merely encoded on MPEG-2
on a Sony VPLVW100 SXRD Digital (Ruby) Projector with a 100" Screen paired with a Denon AVR-4806CI 1080p receiver on my PS3, at a friend's place. Guess which I personally felt clearly came out tops and second for PQ -
So to me, sometimes technical specs should not be the only concern for PQ, there lots of other factors to consider especially how the film was taken! Personally, its what you see and hear which is most important, not only technical specs. You don't need to believe me or even take my word, just get the 4 titles and compare to see and even hear for yourself!

My offer to temporarily trade Crank and the other 3 blu-ray titles still holds if you seriously want to compare!

This post has been edited by yjtay: Apr 15 2007, 12:19 PM

We are talking on the "ideal" condition... which means that the source was as best as we can and then encoded with those 3 codecs as comparison... Sure the result will be VC1>AVC>MPEG2.

You example is very common things happened in our world, so I wont complain... For example in audio world, I like Siti Nurhaliza... but her recording most likely very bad (bass/treble boost, almost no audiophile details, etc)... if there is someone want to put her recording in HDCD/SACD/XRCD formats, then the result wont be better compared to Kari Bremnes or Rebecca Pidgeon in standard CD-A format...

A miss universe will be looked pretty, even without any make up (extra cosmetics)... and on the other side, an "ugly" (sorry) girl will be looked ugly even if you put extra cosmetic on her...

Yup definitely without a doubt agree with your above statements under perfect conditions VC1 is currently the best codec!

However I personally feel, let me take from your example, most Miss Universe without makeup will still look pretty, but an ugly person with the right stylist and maybe the right cosmetics will and can look pretty too!

In simple terms never judge a book by its cover alone! Sometimes even a paltry DVD might match a Bluray transfer. Sometimes even an Mpeg2 encoded bluray could have an amazing PQ which would not be discernable even when or if it is retransfered from source and re encoded in VC1 (my wild assumption).

Its like the argument 1080p is better than 720p. I have no doubt it is better and I am infact watching my materials, movies and playing games using the heavily marketed (touted) Full HD tag, but frankly when I think about it, most of the time I can't see the difference or don't noticed the difference between 720p and 1080p, even on my friend's 100" screen. Its only when I paused the movie or know what to look for and focus on the whole movie then I will see the difference. Guess I am no videophile or audiophile just an easliy influenced consumer!

Anyway as a disclaimer, this is only my personal opinion. Let me reiterate, as video camera technology gets upgraded, VC1 encoding can and will potentially outshine the other mentioned encoding formats.

For details of the not so "bias" lay person Blu-ray and HD-DVD software PQ rankings click either Bluray software tier rankings or HD DVD software tier rankings. Take those AVS forum threads as a guide only and let your senses be the judge. Afterall beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

Joining the blu-ray team soon! Waiting for HT to finish up. Gonna pair PS3 with Anthem Statement D2 SSP AV Processor, wanna see how good the Gennum VXP is. Obviously will be better than Mitsu HC5k's Reon HQV but we'll see. Review before August!

Correct... even I was the one that saying the DVD Region 1 could be better than the BD with MPEG2 (see previous page)... on my case, the "House of Flying Dagger" on BD was so terrible...

But something strange here... if you can create good PQ with MPEG2 compression (example, the CRANK), I believe the result will be MUCH better with VC1... assumed that the source is the same. If you can't get better picture, at least you can save some space with VC1 to hold better audio. So why do you (Sony) use MPEG2? I still cant get the point why Sony forces to use MPEG2... even if you are saying that MPEG2 can produce good PQ... but with VC1, the result should be bettter. Agree?

Finally, I think you are right... it's necessary to review title by title of the movie...

guys, can you actually buy a BR or HD-DVD player in this country? And you need a 1080p to display the full glory of the pq. gosh...this is so amazing. you guys are really early adopters, and seemed so knowledgeable. sorry..cos noob here.

cheers!

I do agree that MPEG2 is an archaic codec when compared to VC1 which could be up to 3 times more efficient. The reason why I think Crank had such a good PQ even with MPEG2 is that the bit rate/ video quality was bumped up through utilisation of the additional capacity a 50GB discs Blu-ray gives. However if VC1 was used it could reach the same quality with maybe less than half the size, but the strange thing is, Crank has enough space to hold uncompressed PCM Audio !

One popular conspiracy theory why Sony insist on using Mpeg2 from a videophile name Pat is
"Blu-ray supports the same compression formats that HD-DVD does. It's just that the studios aren't always authoring VC-1 content for blu-ray. Sony's line is that their discs can hold so much more stuff that they can continue to use MPEG-2 and just crank the bitrate up, but that's not actually true. I think the theory behind it is that Microsoft gets licensing fees for VC-1 when it's used, because it's based on a standardized high-fidelity version of WMV, so Sony doesn't like using it, despite the better quality."

Also from the same guy one of the reasons why Mpeg2 is comparatively more expensive to author : "VC-1 became mandatory in the blu-ray spec originally for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it requires VASTLY less processing power than MPEG-4 (by using integer math instead of floating point), yet produces comparable results. That drives down everyone's costs, and the hardware manufacturers appreciate that."

Lastly click on Sound and Vision Mag for an interesting article by David Ranada, who is the media's leading engineering authority on digital audio and video, from a year ago which led me to believe that sometimes, one should not just rely on the technical specs. His sentiments in last paragraph really made me think!

This post has been edited by yjtay: Apr 16 2007, 12:22 AM

Can anyone please check the bitrate for video on the Crank? I do really need confirmation here...

In my "somewhere around calculation", even the dual layer BD can't find high bitrate MPEG2 with uncompressed audio... So how come the Crank can do that? More information please...

Just click Unofficial Blu-ray Audio and Video Specs to check the bit rate. Btw do take note too, Crank is one of the few Blu-ray titles with LPCM 7.1 too ! You really should order the title and be impressed with both the sound and visual quality!

The blu-ray with the highest bit rate encoded with Mpeg2 is Click, however it pales in comparison with Crank. So like I always believe, eventhough technical specs are important, it should not be the only criteria used to assess AV quality, always let your eyes and ears make the decision after all only you know what you want!

This post has been edited by yjtay: Apr 16 2007, 10:35 AM

WOW Crank wud be my next purchase.

in australia there is a lot but the price is killing!!!

I got to see a little of Casino Royale on BD and I wasn't too impressed because there's the 80's or early 90's kind of grain on the PQ when this is a very recent movie.

Some grain are intentional by the director, but some are bad encoding. So which is which, that's the question

@neoardi,

playing using your ps3 huh?

Of course No doubt.

17 BD and counting...

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Added on April 18, 2007, 7:11 pmnext stop must really look into 1080p projectors.. seriously..

This post has been edited by ar188: Apr 18 2007, 07:11 PM

Which one is ur most favorite BD title?
And what brand of 1080p projectors u had in mind?

BD favorite? erm...need to watch them all..still got 5 more not watched yet...cos just got 10 new ones last week...

as for proj... wonder which new model will drop below 10k mark first...

seen the VW50/VW100 sony in action, so I guess must also must check out the AE1000 also.. ... (currently using AE900)

Check out the Mitsubishi HC5000 at Mediaplex, you will not be dissapointed. Excellent, almost flawless processing, Unprecedented levels of sharpness, great balcks, drop it to low lamp mode (5000 hour) and blacks get to Pearl levels, Superb color, Amazing picture with Hi-Def and Standard Def. They will either show it with HD-DVD or Blu-ray. This is the projector we'll be getting.

Getting my Blu-ray discs and HD-DVD discs before buying players, which will be next week.

how much is mediaplex klcc quoting for the HC5000..??

I can't tell you my price but It's RM14,999

Bargain if u ask me

ok no worries.. I'll get a quote from my kaki when I drop by..

VC-1 list is updated.
The title are Planet Earth: The Complete BBC Series.
Has anyone already have it or planning to buy it?
Is it worth for USD66.99 (after 33% discount from amazon.com)? (it is a 4 BD package which hv running time for 530 minutes )

Definitely. Planet Earth has amazing transfers, and at the same time you'll learn a thing or two. At 67 US its about 250 ringgit which I think is a bargain for 4 Blu-rays.

Too many BDs soo little cash.

i'm thinking of using my notebook or pc to playback Blu ray dvd or hd dvd films...wuts the minimum requirement for a pc to be able to play these dics??

Coz just DL a 1080p hd trailer and it's kinda jerny when it was played in my new quite-hi-spec notebook...so just wanna make sure the system requirements for this...

To know whether ur notebook/pc is ready for BD or HDDVD please click here.
It is a BD/HDDVD advisor (beta) from Cyberlink. I haven't tried it bcoz i know my pc is slow .

thx mate. i've installed it and i realsie that i need a massive upgrade for my pc but no so bad for my new notebook

here's something from the website:

http://www.cyberlink.com/english/support/b...requirement.jsp

what's the point of having HD if the original film have noise? please tell me

Thanks for sharing.

You mean intentional noise (eg: special effect) or unintentional noise (eg: old movies, budget movies, low quality studio works etc)?
IMO, Mission: Impossible 3 for example, the movie uses "intentional noise" for night scene very heavily to creates the dramatic mood which is for me is working and COOL too. .
But i think u may hv a point there coz i've seen a HD trailer (1080p) of an old movie (i think A Knights Tale) which is very noisy thats really dissappointed me.
As a conclusion, its a no-no to buy a BD of an old movies (i guess)...

This post has been edited by neoardi: May 13 2007, 08:34 PM

It can be intentional noise in movies like War Of The Worlds, Black Hawk Down, Saw, etc. Older prints contain noise (can't be avoided) but they do look stunning in HD as the noise doesn't hurt our eyes as much as those standard definition releases. By comparison, even dvds upscaled to 1080p still looked soft to true HD releases and HD movies usually have stronger colours and deeper blacks, simply stunning I must say besides the extra sharpness to bring out more details from a particular movie.

OMG Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is coming to BD. But no release date yet. Here's the link. This is a must-buy BD title.

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Added on June 10, 2007, 8:53 amVC-1 list updated

This post has been edited by neoardi: Jun 10 2007, 08:56 AM

final fantasy the movie coming to BD ?

That's confirmed and it's from Sony Pictures so it's on BD only.

haha dun worry, i never liked FF. I still dunno why people (especially chinese) like FF.

You mean the movie or the game or both?

the game. they had movies of the game before? i din know i am a pc RTS game boi. I only play PC RTS games. Bought a shooting game and still wrapped nicely in its original factory seal. that was like one and half year before

Well, for RPGs, I guess the FF series is worth wasting our time on since the gameplay and graphics are top notch. They have two FF movies so far but only Advent Child is watchable, the first movie was a total flop at the box office. No doubt, Sony will bring all their exclusive movies to blu-ray but I'll give them a miss, I prefer watching a big budget movie on a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD since such movies will shine in HD. You'll be surprised to know my friend ordered Scary Movie 4 on HD-DVD from the net. The picture was sharper, sounded a little punchier but the wow factor is not there if compared to something like Van Helsing on HD-DVD.

scarry movie? by Weistein anyhow if i would want to spend such movie on hidef title, might as well as get critically aclaimed titles which are certified by the people from oscar .. get the prestige, blood diamond or matrix

http://www.bluraysavings.com/

My Uncle is coming from US to Malaysia next month. He is going to buy a player as a gift to me. can someone recommend which one is good?

Also which 5 free movies should I choose? Thanks.

Final Fantasy the spirits within already out,but i never know bout advent children..

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Added on September 6, 2007, 8:18 pmyeah,i went to mediaplex to checkout full HD lcd tv,samsung M8..no one entertains me,y'all know y?? because m jz wearing short pants,hey man,doesn't mean m wearing short pants,i don't money in my pockets..but i do checkout d mitsubishi proj..they were playing 300 on it..get a small glimpse on it only..

This post has been edited by brabus55: Sep 6 2007, 08:18 PM

any player with 1.1 BD profile would be good and oh makesure it support BD live too, if you u cannot view or use extra interactive and web features on announced FOX and Disney titles. Currently, the only BD player that support the BD profile 1.1 is the Denon player. It is priced at $1999 (USD). Dun know if it supports BD Live though

They're like that one lah ..... sometimes we just wanna be simple and casual. I usually go to mediaplex to have a glance but will not buy anything from them, I rather buy it elsewhere. Have been there a couple of times, the previous time, caught their sales people busy playing Ridge Racer on their PS3.

Haha , i also saw in mediaplex midvalley, they were playing Fight Night on their PS3, and not bother entertain me and friends , yup like you said, i rather buy elsewhere.

BTW, the Spiderman Trilogy is out in Australia and its region free Anyone know will there be any different than the US release?

i thought plenty of PS3 owners here are buying their BD from amazon USA ?

I guess it's not me then, it's rude for them to be busy playing on their PS3 when a customer walks in. Furthermore, it's Mediaplex, they should be more professional mah. So backward, like never played a console game before in their life.

i went to mediaplex last week...

but one of the sales person there was very friendly to me... but dosent have much knowledge about the product and the tech... he asked me to buy those Samsung upscaling 1080p and able to play blue-ray disk that they sell.

pfftt..

their collection of av receivers are neat though..

dvd upscaling but able to play blu ray? wow

spidey is launch in aussie earlier mar, and the price is cheaper too

hi rx, nice to see you here
What i heard that the US version of Spidey boxset got Spidey 1, 2, 2.1 and 3. Yup Spider-man 2.1, i dunno if this the extended version, but not sure the Aussie version hv this or not.

And rx, i heard that u bought some new BD movies, please share some review here la....

Got myself the Sharp blu-ray player in Australia instead, for AUS509. Carried it home from Brunei last night. Luckily, no custom bother from Brunei airport & Miri side also. This player is region 2 but can play disks from US.
Aus got the spiderman 1,2,3 for AUS69.90 but 3 disks only, so I didn't buy it.

eh really ? means can support all region?

I think Oz BD is Region B and not all US title are region free, please beware
and u can watch BD from EU but it's much more expensive compared to US price....the Spiderman 1,2,3 is region free

wish u luck mate...