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post Aug 24 2017, 12:17 AM, updated 7y ago

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I had old wood boards that I used as shelves before. It was stained into a darker colour (it was the "in" thing a couple of years ago to have dark wood shelves) but it look dated currently. Hence decided that it was time to breath new "life" into the shelves.


As can be seen, the wood stain used previously was very dark - almost brown black. Even under direct sunlight, the wood plank is quite dark.

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Used an orbital sander and started to sand the surface of the wood using 60 Grit paper, stripping the stained surface of the wood.

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Found by mistake that by partially stripping the stain, it gave the wood a "distressed" look which looked pretty good. Compare the left (original stain) and right side (after sanding).

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Comparing the before and after pictures....

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... and completion of phase 1 of the project. Time for a nice cool glass of coke.

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Next step is to clean the planks of the residue wood dust and to give it a nice coat of oil to protect it.

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post Aug 24 2017, 12:40 AM

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Nice. You avid DIYer?

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post Aug 24 2017, 01:02 AM

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Amateur DIY. Can't make a living out of it, hence have to experiment at home first.

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post Aug 27 2017, 10:31 AM

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Part 2 - Protective oil on wood plannks

Target to apply a layer of protective oil - to protect it against the elements and provide a layer of water protection to the wood.

Raw form of the wood after sanding. Can see the wood grains visible giving it texture

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Applying a coat of wood oil on the wood planks. The wood darkens slightly on the application of the oil. Application of the oil was very fast - took less than 15 minutes to complete.

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The wood grains can still be seen after the application of the oil. Can see the contrast oil and non-oil application areas.

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Took around 2 hours for the wood to be fully cured with the oil. And the final product looks like ....

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Realised don't really need to spend much money to re-use existing stuff around the house to breath new life into the items.



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post Aug 27 2017, 12:54 PM

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What type of wood oil did you use?
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post Aug 27 2017, 07:46 PM

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What type of wood oil did you use?
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Watco Teak Oil. Got it from Ace Hardware - very easy to use and doesn't stain the hands.
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post Sep 10 2017, 09:11 AM

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Had an excess piece of wood - approximately 5 feet in length - from my existing woods which I am turning into a bench (to be posted later).

At the same time, needed a clock for the bedroom so decided to re-use the excess wood to make into a standing floor clock. To make the wood piece stand, I used L-brackets as the "legs".

Had a set of wall clock which was not used and decided to stick it direclty on the wood.

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Results? A vertical 5 feet floor standing clock combining wood and black metal. No wastage of materials and looks great.

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post Sep 11 2017, 12:53 AM

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Nice piece of wood you have it here.

The L angle at the bottom of the clock kills me a little...perhaps you can replace it with two pieces of wood.
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post Sep 11 2017, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Sep 11 2017, 12:53 AM)
Nice piece of wood you have it here.

The L angle at the bottom of the clock kills me a little...perhaps you can replace it with two pieces of wood.
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It would be nice if cut it more than half and hang it on the wall.
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post Sep 11 2017, 09:43 AM

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Nice craft and workmanship.

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post Sep 12 2017, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Sep 11 2017, 12:53 AM)
Nice piece of wood you have it here.

The L angle at the bottom of the clock kills me a little...perhaps you can replace it with two pieces of wood.
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The difficult part is the joining of another 2 pieces of wood at the bottom. That would mean either to screw right thru the back to the front (wood thickness is around 1.5") and trying to do another screw from front to back - I actually broke the screwhead while trying to do this (the wood is really hard).

I opted for the black metal L-angle as it gives is a nice contrast to the wood. All woody was too much for me.
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post Sep 12 2017, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 10 2017, 09:11 AM)
Had an excess piece of wood - approximately 5 feet in length - from my existing woods which I am turning into a bench (to be posted later). 

At the same time, needed a clock for the bedroom so decided to re-use the excess wood to make into a standing floor clock. To make the wood piece stand, I used L-brackets as the "legs".

Had a set of wall clock which was not used and decided to stick it direclty on the wood.

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Results? A vertical 5 feet floor standing clock combining wood and black metal. No wastage of materials and looks great.

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I don't mean to sound offensive and disrespectful. This design reminds me of something else which is related to departed human being.

IMHO, you should cut the plank into half rather than using the full length. A bit unbalanced.

Apologies if you feel offended. Just my frank feedback.

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post Sep 12 2017, 06:25 PM

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Good feedback. Never see it that way.

The plank is 5' in length - can almost be a clothes rack. Too large to be the item you are referring to unless it belongs to giant. 😁
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post Sep 12 2017, 11:16 PM

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Nice crafting skill with limited tools.

hahaha, I had did some souvenir that my colleague ask me to redo it because the initial design looked like tombstone.
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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 12 2017, 12:18 AM)
- I actually broke the screwhead while trying to do this (the wood is really hard). 
predrill, before driving in the screw
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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Sep 12 2017, 07:29 AM)
I don't mean to sound offensive and disrespectful. This design reminds me of something else which is related to departed human being.

IMHO, you should cut the plank into half rather than using the full length. A bit unbalanced.

Apologies if you feel offended. Just my frank feedback.
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post Sep 23 2017, 02:07 AM

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Had another wood ready and prep to be made into a 5' bench.

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Managed to find a metalworks guy to make a frame using mild steel for me. When the bench was delivered, found that there were rust stains and the metal had a lot of black dust on it - probably not finished properly as I wanted it completed fast.

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Noticed that the rust stains can be seen on the legs and the side part of the frame.


Decided had to use some elbow grease to remove the dirt and rusted stains - can't bear to live with rust stains inside the house (figured no fun getting tetanus from moving the bench around the house). Hence had to separate the wood plank from the bench frame - and started to strip and clean the frame using vinegar and a steel wool. Vinegar was surprisingly effective in cleaning out the built-up rust.

Problem was after leaving it out to dry from the washing of the rust and dirt stains - within a couple of hours, some faint rust can be seen building up again. Oxidation was happening very fast. Had to wipe out the rust stain and apply a coat of acrylic clearcoat to provide a protective layer.

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So far looking good, the metal frame has the raw industrial look. Currently waiting for the frame to full dry before merging the wood plank and metal frame back.

Hope to get it done by tomorrow!

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post Sep 23 2017, 08:04 AM

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Nice loft table. Where did you get the wood, I always wanted one of these. But end up using ikea wood top smile.gif

How much the steel work cost you?
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post Sep 23 2017, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 23 2017, 08:04 AM)
Nice loft table. Where did you get the wood, I always wanted one of these. But end up using ikea wood top smile.gif

How much the steel work cost you?
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It's actually a bench rather than a table. 5' L x 14" W x 22" H. If it was higher and wider, it could be turned into a table.

I had the wood for nearly 10 years, previously used it as a book shelf. Decided to re-purpose it and it "grew" up and became a bench 😆.

Got the wood from a Klang wood factory, forgot where as more than 10 years ago. There is a wood shop at Damansara Uptown, it's the same row as Wondermilk, can try to source from there.

The steel works cost me RM200 (minus my own labour cost to clean it 😁). Would estimate that the bench cost me approx RM500.
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post Sep 23 2017, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 23 2017, 09:32 AM)
It's actually a bench rather than a table. 5' L x 14" W x 22" H. If it was higher and wider, it could be turned into a table.

I had the wood for nearly 10 years, previously used it as a book shelf. Decided to re-purpose it and it "grew" up and became a bench 😆.

Got the wood from a Klang wood factory, forgot where as more than 10 years ago. There is a wood shop at Damansara Uptown, it's the same row as Wondermilk, can try to source from there.

The steel works cost me RM200 (minus my own labour cost to clean it 😁).  Would estimate that the bench cost me approx RM500.
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I know that damansara place, they sell mostly wooden door and windows.

Thinking to buy a big wood from china, maybe later when budget allow.
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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 23 2017, 02:07 AM)
Had another wood ready and prep to be made into a 5' bench.

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Managed to find a metalworks guy to make a frame using mild steel for me.  When the bench was delivered, found that there were rust stains and the metal had a lot of black dust on it - probably not finished properly as I wanted it completed fast. 

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Noticed that the rust stains can be seen on the legs and the side part of the frame.


Decided had to use some elbow grease to remove the dirt and rusted stains - can't bear to live with rust stains inside the house (figured no fun getting tetanus from moving the bench around the house).  Hence had to separate the wood plank from the bench frame - and started to strip and clean the frame using vinegar and a steel wool.  Vinegar was surprisingly effective in cleaning out the built-up rust. 

Problem was after leaving it out to dry from the washing of the rust and dirt stains - within a couple of hours, some faint rust can be seen building up again.  Oxidation was happening very fast.  Had to wipe out the rust stain and apply a coat of acrylic clearcoat to provide a protective layer.

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So far looking good, the metal frame has the raw industrial look.  Currently waiting for the frame to full dry before merging the wood plank and metal frame back.

Hope to get it done by tomorrow!
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The mild steel have to be paint. Otherswise it will rust again. If you want to look like raw, paint a clear liquar to seal off the metal from air.

Can the metal stand support the person weight? It won't sway? Cause I see the joint on top is abit weak.
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post Sep 23 2017, 03:52 PM

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Metal frame is quite stable, with the mild steel legs it provides a good weight at the bottom. With the wood plank sitting inside the frame, it provides additional weight - estimate the entire bench is around 15 - 20kg in weight.

Final results ....

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Close up view of the metal after cleaning + acrylic clearcoat spray.

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Can see the wood grains running along the plank

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Bench ready to be used.



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post Sep 23 2017, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 23 2017, 09:44 AM)
I know that damansara place, they sell mostly wooden door and windows. 

Thinking to buy a big wood from china, maybe later when budget allow.
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You can try Jungle Fever located along Jalan Sungai Buloh (Near the traffic light to the Kwasa Sentral LRT station or 50 meters from Delima Tani (M) Sdn. Bhd - Google it). I got from them a joined Balau wood countertop - 5' Length x 32' Width x 1.5" Thickness. The cost was RM1,100. Still hardwood just not a single piece.

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The balau wood countertop.

Single piece wood has a premium priced to it.

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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 23 2017, 04:17 PM)
You can try Jungle Fever located along Jalan Sungai Buloh (Near the traffic light to the Kwasa Sentral LRT station or 50 meters from Delima Tani (M) Sdn. Bhd - Google it).  I got from them a joined Balau wood countertop - 5' Length x 32' Width x 1.5" Thickness.  The cost was RM1,100.  Still hardwood just not a single piece. 

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The balau wood countertop.

Single piece wood has a premium priced to it.
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That is nice price. Thanks will go survey
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post Sep 25 2017, 09:45 AM

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wood is soooo expensive nowadays...
My favorite source of wood for small projects still has to be pallets from office.
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post Sep 25 2017, 01:16 PM

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Yup, pallets has pretty decent woods as well. I prefer the wood pallets from Europe / US - has nicer grain and lighter wood colour. Looks "nicer".

Downside is the wood type might not cater well to our weather (humidity) and the wood (pine?) feels lighter (less dense).
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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 25 2017, 01:16 PM)
Yup, pallets has pretty decent woods as well.  I prefer the wood pallets from Europe / US - has nicer grain and lighter wood colour.  Looks "nicer".

Downside is the wood type might not cater well to our weather (humidity) and the wood (pine?) feels lighter (less dense).
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Yeah pine is softwood. Would have to be careful with repurposing pine wood for home furniture. Some are chemically treated which can be hazardous.
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post Sep 25 2017, 04:38 PM

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Do you know if the wood is treated entirely or only on the surface of the wood?
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Ok found the answer.

How To Tell If A Wood Pallet Is Safe For Reuse?


Pallet wood safe to use!

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post Sep 25 2017, 09:05 PM

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The wood from pallet are rough and usually not straight and flat like those wood we buy from shop.
It will take some effort to square 4 side and smooth-en the surface for furniture work.
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post Sep 25 2017, 09:39 PM

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Can use a random orbital sander to smoothen the planks.

For it not being straight and flat, can use this woods as cladding or maybe wood filler to fill the space. Just have to design and figure it out.
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post Sep 25 2017, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 25 2017, 09:39 PM)
Can use a random orbital sander to smoothen the planks. 

For it not being straight and flat, can use this woods as cladding or maybe wood filler to fill the space.  Just have to design and figure it out.
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Or a hand planer.
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post Sep 26 2017, 09:01 AM

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Using traditional hand planer is a good exercise, but I use electric hand planer more.
No5 jack plane can be more expensive than electric hand plane.

My current electric plane costs RM190 only.
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post Nov 20 2017, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 23 2017, 04:17 PM)
You can try Jungle Fever located along Jalan Sungai Buloh (Near the traffic light to the Kwasa Sentral LRT station or 50 meters from Delima Tani (M) Sdn. Bhd - Google it).  I got from them a joined Balau wood countertop - 5' Length x 32' Width x 1.5" Thickness.  The cost was RM1,100.  Still hardwood just not a single piece. 

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The balau wood countertop.

Single piece wood has a premium priced to it.
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Follow-up from this post, updated photos of the wood countertop.

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post Nov 21 2017, 12:15 AM

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Project Barndoor for Toilet

What the final completed project looks like. Pretty happy with the final output.

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How the project actually started, from the very beginning working backwards ....

... managed to source pinewood planks (16' feet) from a dealer. Got him to cut to 7' in length.

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The job of constructing the barndoors was beyond what I had in skills and tools, hence got a local workshop to provide the labour. Glad I did as it took them 1 day to complete the job.

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Got them to sand it down to provide a smooth surface and remove possible wood splinters

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Treated the wood myself using stains as well as applying a layer using wax paste (to provide a layer of protection from the splash of water). The right side - the darker side is the treated section.
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Treated and just waiting to be mounted on the railings ....

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And finally completed!
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post Dec 20 2017, 12:29 AM

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New project - Project Pallet Wood Side Table

Found pallet wood (good stuff) lying around.

First had to make sure the wood was safe to use ... "HT" (Heat Treament). Checked. Safe to use (none of the nasty "MB" stuff)

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Next had to disassemble the planks from the pallets.

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Plenty of nails to remove. Alot of elbow power and brute force needed for this. Had to make sure the planks were not damaged or split in the middle when separated from each other.

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Once the nails have been removed, time to sand the planks down to "smoothen" it, remove any scratches and dirt as well as sharp splinters. Had to measure to make sure I had all the planks in the correct "sizes" for the build. Good part is wood pallets comes in standard sizes hence just need to pick the correct pallet planks.

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Comparison of sanded plank vs raw plank. The sanded plank is the one at the bottom. The raw wood pallets initially look dirty and had dirt smears. After sanding it down, the wood grain can be seen and the wood is "cleaner" as the dirty section has been sanded off.

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Had to make sure to hose down the planks with water to wash off the dusty parts from the sanding process.

Time for assembly .... basically used a nice wood pallet as the "base" and added height using planks to the sides.

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Time for the next phase. Got a couple of Hafele drawer slides and measured to make sure they fit.
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Looking good. Time to screw everything in place (made a couple of trips to the hardware shop to make sure I got the correct screw sizes)

Final result!

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Pallet side table with sliding top

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Has good depth to put books and stuff inside.

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Another project completed. Total cost? RM35 (Hafele drawer slides + screws + nails)


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Nice project there.

Pallet wood not a rough wood ? Very hard to smooth it out.

Becarefull with the table slide that use in the flat way. It cannot hold the weight even actual spec is higher. It have to be install in side way.
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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 12 2017, 12:18 AM)
The difficult part is the joining of another 2 pieces of wood at the bottom.  That would mean either to screw right thru the back to the front (wood thickness is around 1.5") and trying to do another screw from front to back - I actually broke the screwhead while trying to do this (the wood is really hard). 

I opted for the black metal L-angle as it gives is a nice contrast to the wood.  All woody was too much for me.
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oh yeah. my old time teknik.
drill small bit hole first for that screw.
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post Dec 20 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 20 2017, 09:11 AM)
Nice project there.

Pallet wood not a rough wood ? Very hard to smooth it out.

Becarefull with the table slide that use in the flat way. It cannot hold the weight even actual spec is higher. It have to be install in side way.
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Not really. Used a grit P60, then followed by P120. Any finer and the wood grain would have been lost.

Yup, the top cover part weights around 3kg. Would just hold a night light and couple of book. Maybe later, will think of adding electrical sockets inside so can charge mobile phone.
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QUOTE(bigred @ Nov 21 2017, 12:15 AM)
Project Barndoor for Toilet 

What the final completed project looks like.  Pretty happy with the final output.

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How the project actually started, from the very beginning working backwards ....

... managed to source pinewood planks (16' feet) from a dealer.  Got him to cut to 7' in length.

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The job of constructing the barndoors was beyond what I had in skills and tools, hence got a local workshop to provide the labour.  Glad I did as it took them 1 day to complete the job.

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Got them to sand it down to provide a smooth surface and remove possible wood splinters

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Treated the wood myself using stains as well as applying a layer using wax paste (to provide a layer of protection from the splash of water).  The right side - the darker side is the treated section.
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Treated and just waiting to be mounted on the railings ....

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And finally completed!
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Is the shop provide sanding service for existing dining table?
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QUOTE(lifeseries @ Dec 20 2017, 11:47 AM)
Is the shop provide sanding service for existing dining table?
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I am sure there. Some can come over to do the sanding at your place (they bring their equipment along), but not sure if you want dust around. Otherwise, you might have to transport your table to and fro to the workshop.

Also depends on where the location of your house ; best to find a workshop near your place of residence.
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QUOTE(bigred @ Dec 20 2017, 12:20 PM)
I am sure there.  Some can come over to do the sanding at your place (they bring their equipment along), but not sure if you want dust around.  Otherwise, you might have to transport your table to and fro to the workshop.

Also depends on where the location of your house ; best to find a workshop near your place of residence.
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can i know where is the shop?
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QUOTE(lifeseries @ Dec 20 2017, 01:30 PM)
can i know where is the shop?
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Those that I know are located along Jalan Sungai Buloh - same stretch as all the nurseries. 100 metres before the Kota Damansara traffic lights (if coming from Subang Skypark Airport)
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QUOTE(bigred @ Dec 20 2017, 01:56 PM)
Those that I know are located along Jalan Sungai Buloh - same stretch as all the nurseries.  100 metres before the Kota Damansara traffic lights (if coming from Subang Skypark Airport)
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Okay TQ
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QUOTE(bigred @ Dec 20 2017, 01:56 PM)
Those that I know are located along Jalan Sungai Buloh - same stretch as all the nurseries.  100 metres before the Kota Damansara traffic lights (if coming from Subang Skypark Airport)
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Okay TQ
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Nice builds @bigred. Recently bought the sliding barn door hardware on AliExpress. Gonna start working on the door this weekend.

Mind if I share some of my DIY work on your thread?
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QUOTE(Reubs @ Dec 21 2017, 10:49 AM)
Nice builds @bigred. Recently bought the sliding barn door hardware on AliExpress. Gonna start working on the door this weekend.

Mind if I share some of my DIY work on your thread?
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Please do! Feel free to share or ask questions - only way we can learn from each other.
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Thanks @bigred

In the midst of making an industrial dining table. 90 percent complete I would say.

Here's the process:

1. Cutting steel hollow sections for the legs.

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2. Welding the legs together.

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3. Filling putty on the joints.

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4. Grinding the weld joints to a smooth finish.

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5. Priming

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6. Painting (Matte Black)

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8. Clamping 4/6 pieces of wood together.

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9. Sanding. (80 grit > 120 grit & 220 grit)

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11. Final coat of finish. Will leave it for 72 hours before buffing.

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That's impressive. This was done at your frontyard? What type wood did you use? It looks pretty thick ... at least an inch in thickness.
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That's impressive.  This was done at your frontyard?  What type wood did you use?  It looks pretty thick ... at least an inch in thickness.
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Thanks! Yeah it was done in my porch. Just had a renovation so it’s in a mess.

Wood is called Melunak, solid wood. Bought it from a factory in Ampang. It’s 2 inches thick.
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Post a final pic of the table when it is completed.

Did you have a welder or did you get someone to do the welding of the table joints?
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Post a final pic of the table when it is completed.

Did you have a welder or did you get someone to do the welding of the table joints?
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Will do!

I have a small 160amp arc welding machine. Welds definitely need improvement. Hence why I had to fill up some holes using the putty.

Just finished attaching the legs to the the wood top using 4 inch screws.

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Don't mind me asking, what was the total build cost (material)?
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Here’s the breakdown:

6” x 2” Melunak wood (Total size around 7’ x 3’) - RM336
Steel hollow section - RM100 +/-
Paint, Primer, Wood Glue, Finishing, etc - RM 150 +/-

Close to RM600

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Thanks! Yeah it was done in my porch. Just had a renovation so it’s in a mess.

Wood is called Melunak, solid wood. Bought it from a factory in Ampang. It’s 2 inches thick.
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nice edge to joint. did you get the factory to surface them too?


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nice edge to joint. did you get the factory to surface them too?
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Thanks! It comes planed, but I had to do quite a bit of sanding to get it all evened out.
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Thanks! It comes planed, but I had to do quite a bit of sanding to get it all evened out.
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cool, of coz. cos you glued the joints right? gotta be really smooth on both sides to have maximum contacts. rclxms.gif

6” x 2” Melunak wood (Total size around 7’ x 3’) - RM336
means you used how many 7feet planks to make 7x3 feet table? exactly 6 planks? rm8/feet is reasonable for 2x6 size .. i assume its outdoor hard woods as i have not much info on that kind of wood.

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cool, of coz. cos you glued the joints right? gotta be really smooth on both sides to have maximum contacts. rclxms.gif

6” x 2” Melunak wood (Total size around 7’ x 3’) - RM336
means you used how many 7feet planks to make 7x3 table? exactly 6 planks? rm8/feet is reasonable for 2x6 size .. i assume its hard woods as i have not much info on that kind of wood.
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Yeah I used 6 planks. Yup sold at rm8 per foot. And yes it’s hard word.


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Yeah I used 6 planks. Yup sold at rm8 per foot. And yes it’s hard word.
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cool. cost effective project. rclxms.gif
yesterday just bought some walnut 2x6 planks and its like 6x the price. sweat.gif oh well customer is the boss so we just listen..
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cool. cost effective project. rclxms.gif
yesterday just bought some walnut 2x6 planks and its like 6x the price.  sweat.gif  oh well customer is the boss so we just listen..
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Haha thanks. Gonna make a bench as well using the same wood.

Guess that’s the price between local and imported wood.
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Haha thanks. Gonna make a bench as well using the same wood.

Guess that’s the price between local and imported wood.
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did you ask the shop what kind of woods they supply?
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did you ask the shop what kind of woods they supply?
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The only other hard wood planks they have is Meranti.

Other than that it’s plywood, finger jointed, etc.

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The only other hard wood planks they have is Meranti.

Other than that it’s plywood, finger jointed, etc.
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ic. meranti should be cost effective also but not so weather resistant.
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Yeah, would be ok for indoors.

The place you buy your walnut. Is there a MOQ? Looking to refurbish some old speakers.
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Yeah, would be ok for indoors.

The place you buy your walnut. Is there a MOQ? Looking to refurbish some old speakers.
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yes of coz , price depends on volume for bulk purchases.

no worries, next time if we purchase for project will inform u, if u wanna tumpang buy extra one or 2 piece for example.
usually for walnut n white oak its in sawn timber form, so need to plane s4s/ smooth 4side into usable planks we can do that process for you to save the trouble.
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yes of coz , price depends on volume for bulk purchases.

no worries, next time if we purchase for project will inform u, if u wanna tumpang buy extra one or 2 piece for example.
usually for walnut n white oak its in sawn timber form, so need to plane s4s/ smooth 4side into usable planks we can do that process for you to save the trouble.
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That would great. Let me know.

Thanks!
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QUOTE(Reubs @ Dec 23 2017, 11:18 PM)
Here’s the breakdown:

6” x 2” Melunak wood (Total size around 7’ x 3’) - RM336
Steel hollow section - RM100 +/-
Paint, Primer, Wood Glue, Finishing, etc - RM 150 +/-

Close to RM600
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Wow great work, mind to share the wood shop location?
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Wow great work, mind to share the wood shop location?
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Thanks!

Here’s the waze location: https://waze.com/ul/hw283gstv7

It’s located in Ampang.


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That's pretty good pricing. I paid RM5.50 per feet for my pine wood (20mm x 145mm)
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That's pretty good pricing.  I paid RM5.50 per feet for my pine wood (20mm x 145mm)
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Bought 8.5” x 1.8” pine wood for my sliding barn door for RM18 / feet. Twice the price of my table.

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Watch the weight of the barndoor. Pine might be light but when its joined to become a door, it's not that light.
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Yeah it’s pretty heavy for 7’ x 3’.

The load the track can take is 175kgs. The total weight of my door should be approximately 50kgs.

I mounted the track with extra long screws anyway just to be safe.
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Thanks!

Here’s the waze location: https://waze.com/ul/hw283gstv7

It’s located in Ampang.
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Post a final pic of the table when it is completed.

Did you have a welder or did you get someone to do the welding of the table joints?
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Completed. Waiting for my dining chairs to arrive this weekend.

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Completed. Waiting for my dining chairs to arrive this weekend.

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What's the height of the table? I found with tables, actually have to designed to suit the chairs (Chairs height are standard, customised table height are not blink.gif )

Cost of chairs are probably more expensive than the total cost of the table biggrin.gif
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rclxms.gif

What's the height of the table?  I found with tables, actually have to designed to suit the chairs (Chairs height are standard, customised table height are not  blink.gif )

Cost of chairs are probably more expensive than the total cost of the table  biggrin.gif
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The table height is at 28 inches. 2 inches shorter compared to the average height of 30.

Cost of 3 chairs is about RM460 lol. Will be placing a bench using the same wood on the other side.
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Here’s some pics of my sliding barn door. Haven’t had the time to make the handles lol. Thinking of doing it with steel pipes.

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Drilling holes for dowels:
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Glueing between planks:
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Clamping:
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Separate slabs:
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Using ratchet straps to clamp joint woods together:
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Sawing off uneven sides using circular saw and aluminium section as a guide:
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Drilling holes on mild steel (attached around the door):
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Counter sinking holes so screws will sit in flushed:
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Made a channel at the bottom for the door guide:
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That door looks really heavy. My guess around 35kg with the mild steel frame. Over engineered? 😁
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That door looks really heavy. My guess around 35kg with the mild steel frame.  Over engineered? 😁
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Not too sure about the weight, it should be around there. Managed to mount it up in my own.

Mild steel is to prevent the door from warping.
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Good pics and work. Surprised you went horizontal with the planks instead of vertical.

Vertical planks would be easier for strength and to mount.
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Completed. Waiting for my dining chairs to arrive this weekend.

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your dining table looks absolutely gorgeous, i'm also very impressed with your welding


kindly update us when dining chairs arrive please !!


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your dining table looks absolutely gorgeous, i'm also very impressed with your welding
kindly update us when dining chairs arrive please !!
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Thanks very much! My dining chairs have arrived, will be making a bench this weekend. Will share pics of my full dining table set.

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Thanks very much! My dining chairs have arrived, will be making a bench this weekend. Will share pics of my full dining table set.
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really appreciate it

your work is very impressive!!


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Project Barndoor for Toilet 

What the final completed project looks like.  Pretty happy with the final output.

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How the project actually started, from the very beginning working backwards ....

... managed to source pinewood planks (16' feet) from a dealer.  Got him to cut to 7' in length.

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The job of constructing the barndoors was beyond what I had in skills and tools, hence got a local workshop to provide the labour.  Glad I did as it took them 1 day to complete the job.

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Got them to sand it down to provide a smooth surface and remove possible wood splinters

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Treated the wood myself using stains as well as applying a layer using wax paste (to provide a layer of protection from the splash of water).  The right side - the darker side is the treated section.
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Treated and just waiting to be mounted on the railings ....

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hello! can i know what was the total cost paid for this door? mechanism local or taobao?

thank you!
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Total cost = RM930 per door

Barndoor mechanism = RM330 per set
Pine wood for door = RM400
Labour = RM200 per door (to make the door)

Of course the above doesn't take into account the co-ordination, transportation, headache, banging head and installation (done by myself).
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Reubs Awesome. Where did you buy the sliding door track?

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Reubs Awesome. Where did you buy the sliding door track?
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Got it from TaoBao but used a local Malaysian drop ship for door to door delivery.

Can reference the link below.

https://www.buy2taobao.com/en/search.html?K...or&Cid=all&Cid=
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Got it from TaoBao but used a local Malaysian drop ship for door to door delivery.

Can reference the link below.

https://www.buy2taobao.com/en/search.html?K...or&Cid=all&Cid=
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Thanks but ayo Tabao sweat.gif . Is there any physical store that I can visit?
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Thanks but ayo Tabao  sweat.gif . Is there any physical store that I can visit?
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Not that I know of. The material and quality is pretty decent. It's made of steel, no plastic parts. Quite heavy too.
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Thanks but ayo Tabao  sweat.gif . Is there any physical store that I can visit?
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we can custom them for you...may also visit our workshop/studio

more info -> http://www.kerjakayu.my/barn-door
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QUOTE(bigred @ Sep 23 2017, 02:07 AM)
Had another wood ready and prep to be made into a 5' bench.

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Managed to find a metalworks guy to make a frame using mild steel for me.  When the bench was delivered, found that there were rust stains and the metal had a lot of black dust on it - probably not finished properly as I wanted it completed fast. 

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Noticed that the rust stains can be seen on the legs and the side part of the frame.


Decided had to use some elbow grease to remove the dirt and rusted stains - can't bear to live with rust stains inside the house (figured no fun getting tetanus from moving the bench around the house).  Hence had to separate the wood plank from the bench frame - and started to strip and clean the frame using vinegar and a steel wool.  Vinegar was surprisingly effective in cleaning out the built-up rust. 

Problem was after leaving it out to dry from the washing of the rust and dirt stains - within a couple of hours, some faint rust can be seen building up again.  Oxidation was happening very fast.  Had to wipe out the rust stain and apply a coat of acrylic clearcoat to provide a protective layer.

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So far looking good, the metal frame has the raw industrial look.  Currently waiting for the frame to full dry before merging the wood plank and metal frame back.

Hope to get it done by tomorrow!
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Very nice work! If I were to make one, do I need to provide the steel or just the design will do? Do you mind sharing the contact for metal work? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(falxon88 @ Jun 10 2018, 02:20 AM)
Very nice work! If I were to make one, do I need to provide the steel or just the design will do? Do you mind sharing the contact for metal work?  biggrin.gif
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They are metal fabricators. They will provide the metal. T FOUR K METAL WORKS (https://www.facebook.com/T-FOUR-K-METAL-WORKS-288387937156/)

You just need to provide the design (with actual measurements and designs) and type of metal you want (e.g. GI pipe size, mild steel, etc). They don't deliver so you have to arrange for your own transport e.g. hire a lorry or carry it in your car
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QUOTE(bigred @ Jun 10 2018, 11:59 AM)
They are metal fabricators.  They will provide the metal.  T FOUR K METAL WORKS (https://www.facebook.com/T-FOUR-K-METAL-WORKS-288387937156/)

You just need to provide the design (with actual measurements and designs) and type of metal you want (e.g. GI pipe size, mild steel, etc).  They don't deliver so you have to arrange for your own transport e.g. hire a lorry or carry it in your car
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No worries, happy building.

Tip 1 - you might want to draw the design with measurements before passing it to him.

Tip 2 - Pinterest has pretty good ideas on design
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Yeah, would be ok for indoors.

The place you buy your walnut. Is there a MOQ? Looking to refurbish some old speakers.
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wood flavour of the month, RED Oak.. smoothhh.. biggrin.gif

just got out of the clamping station, surface still rough
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so i put it into 80grit drum sander
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comes out flat but surface is still abit rough to the touch due to 80grit sand paper

so add extra hand planing, then become butter smooth

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wood flavour of the month, RED Oak.. smoothhh..  biggrin.gif

just got out of the clamping station, surface still rough
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so i put it into 80grit drum sander
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comes out flat but surface is still abit rough to the touch due to 80grit sand paper

so add extra hand planing, then become butter smooth

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Any leftovers? biggrin.gif
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Any leftovers?  biggrin.gif
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not much remainder to make large tables and such. as we mostly work on white oak now for current project.
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This thread is so cool. All of you are so hardcore. Need some information. Do you all know anywhere I can buy pallet wood. I dont mind if its rough. If can I dont want to disassemble it as I dont have the energy anymore.

Found a place in Seremban but its like RM 40 a piece ( already sanded ).

Thanks a lot. Cheers.
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Most of the pallet wood is using pine wood.

Option 1 - Can buy new pine wood planks ... Last quoted was around RM5.50 per feet (funnily enough, out local hardwood like (e.g Kempas) is cheaper at RM3.50 per feet.

Option 2 - Look in FB Marketplace, seems there are several sellers of pallet wood.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829614923888824

Tip - make sure don't get pallet with MB stamp. Not good for health.


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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Jun 13 2018, 11:24 AM)
This thread is so cool. All of you are so hardcore. Need some information. Do you all know anywhere I can buy pallet wood. I dont mind if its rough. If can I dont want to disassemble it as I dont have the energy anymore.

Found a place in Seremban but its like RM 40 a piece ( already sanded ).

Thanks a lot. Cheers.
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where are you located?
have a few friends supplying planed s4s imported pine/spruce wood near banting area.
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where are you located?
have a few friends supplying planed s4s imported pine/spruce wood near banting area.
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Hi Ar188, thanks for reaching out. I am in PJ. Anywhere in klang valley is fine. I just need some lead way into finding some nice wood. I am a beginner so any wood is fine as long as its cheap for me to play around with.

Regards,
Kelvin.
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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Jun 18 2018, 10:43 AM)
Hi Ar188, thanks for reaching out. I am in PJ. Anywhere in klang valley is fine. I just need some lead way into finding some nice wood. I am a beginner so any wood is fine as long as its cheap for me to play around with.

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Just checked bro. Got a few small projects here and there but I just want some nice decent wood. Beginner here so any wood is good for experiments and skill building.
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Try this link. This guy is giving away broken wood pallet ... location around Subang Jaya

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/377457652664374
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those are dubious grade pallet with crap local wood. what u need is Euro grade pallet.
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Posting new project. Saw a video on shou sugi ban (charring wood using fire) and decided to experiment it on a roller-able side table.

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Wood preparation

Original box used to ship cocoa beans. Wood was not fully planned and had a rough surface

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Box in progress of being sanded. Fully sanded externally and internally.
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The right box is the original state. The left is box after sanding - looks "whiter"
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Wood Charring with Fire

Let the fun begin!

Wood charring from top to bottom. Used a LPG propane torch and just fire away.
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Can see the transition of raw wood turn into charred wood. It's actually not that easy for the wood to be burned. Takes quite a while to focus the flame on the wood before it starts to char.
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After charring wood, used steel brush to wipe away the dust. Don't recommend to breath in the dust (it's very fine black dust) unless you want black lungs (worse than smoking!)
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The area in the red square is brushed. As can be seen, the area on the left is slightly shiny, this is from the residue charcoal layer on the wood. After brushing with the steel brush, it as a matt look.
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These wood are used to make the cover for the top of the boxes.

Can see the difference on the level of charring on the wood. Interestingly, the fire brings out the wood grain very clearly. Different from very charred to lightly charred. The wood in the middle is sanded but not fired.

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Good fun trying new technique on wood.

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Can I get the pine wood place where you asked them to do please? taobao can find liao =)

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Can I get the pine wood place where you asked them to do please? taobao can find liao =)
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I got the pinewood planks from the shop below. They can cut the wood to the size for you.
https://www.facebook.com/diykerjakayu/

Currently there are alot more pine wood suppliers around, you can do a quick search on Facebook MarketPlace for other sources.

I got a workshop to joined the pine wood into the barndoors. There are several workshops along the Sungai Buloh road where all the gardening centres are.
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QUOTE(bigred @ Jun 28 2018, 02:20 PM)
I got the pinewood planks from the shop below.  They can cut the wood to the size for you.
https://www.facebook.com/diykerjakayu/

Currently there are alot more pine wood suppliers around, you can do a quick search on Facebook MarketPlace for other sources.

I got a workshop to joined the pine wood into the barndoors.  There are several workshops along the Sungai Buloh road where all the gardening centres are.
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I went there several times (to look for solid timber doors) near kwasa damansara LRT, but for woodwork shops just random going in?

From subang airport, on the right a lot of nursery, there's wood work shop there as well?

wood from the forum itself, there's a few sources, read through the whole forum few times. contacted your Brader Lan for grilles as well for my home.
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can I know the weight of your door and the price of materials for the door alone please?
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QUOTE(y4ng @ Jun 28 2018, 02:57 PM)
I went there several times (to look for solid timber doors) near kwasa damansara LRT, but for woodwork shops just random going in?

From subang airport, on the right a lot of nursery, there's wood work shop there as well?

wood from the forum itself, there's a few sources, read through the whole forum few times. contacted your Brader Lan for grilles as well for my home.
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There are 3-4 shops along that stretch. The one I went to is next to Lot 50 (Jungle Classic) shop. It is a workshop where they manufacture doors, tables, etc, I just walked in and ask how much they charge for making a door for me.


> wood from the forum itself, there's a few sources, read through the whole forum few times. contacted your Brader Lan for grilles as well for my home.
biggrin.gif He is a good guy. You just need to arrange your own transport from his workshop.
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There are 3-4 shops along that stretch.  The one I went to is next to Lot 50 (Jungle Classic) shop.  It is a workshop where they manufacture doors, tables, etc, I just walked in and ask how much they charge for making a door for me. 
>  wood from the forum itself, there's a few sources, read through the whole forum few times. contacted your Brader Lan for grilles as well for my home.
    biggrin.gif  He is a good guy.  You just need to arrange your own transport from his workshop.
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ok thanks for the information! I hope I can be as successful as u in my projects biggrin.gif gonna shift in to a house without toilet doors in the near future haha.
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ok thanks for the information! I hope I can be as successful as u in my projects  biggrin.gif  gonna shift in to a house without toilet doors in the near future haha.
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if u decided on what woods you want to use, let me know, will find them for you.
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got! what sizes you need.?
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Location? Im within klang valley haha. Need to be at least 7-8ft long...pine kua?
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Location? Im within klang valley haha. Need to be at least 7-8ft long...pine kua?
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Did a sketch biggrin.gif of what i wanted to do for the bench
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The shaded part is metal
Wonder if ok, any comments from forumers here are very welcome
No experience in this so hope i dont miss anything

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Did a sketch  biggrin.gif  of what i wanted to do for the bench
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The shaded part is metal
Wonder if ok, any comments from forumers here are very welcome
No experience in this so hope i dont miss anything
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1. Better to do a 3-D diagram so the design is clearer. If possible, get a sample picture how you want it to look like to the fabricator so they understand (see example attached)

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2. 23" height (floor to sitting), this would be for a counter and not dining table rite? Dining table chairs are usually 18" from floor to seating (it too tall, the person sitting would need to hunch over their plates to eat)
3. No measurement on width of wood or bench
4. Currently no clear design how the wood is fixed to the metal frame (e.g. screwed in, locked in, dropped in?)
5. What type of metal? Metal, mild steel flat bar, stainless steel?
6. Foot rest - one or 2 bar across? Thickness / Width of metal?
7. Just a note, your wood is 8' (approx). This would make the bench quite heavy to move.
8. Edges of metal, rounded or square
9. It would be easier if you found the wood and give it to the metal fabricator. So they can make sure the metal fit directly to the wood (sometimes wood warp and might not be straight).
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1. Better to do a 3-D diagram so the design is clearer.  If possible, get a sample picture how you want it to look like to the fabricator so they understand (see example attached)
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I see, ok. Ya, later they do what they think i want haha

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2. 23" height (floor to sitting), this would be for a counter and not dining table rite?  Dining table chairs are usually 18" from floor to seating (it too tall, the person sitting would need to hunch over their plates to eat)
Yup, its a counter so the bench need to raise. I tried sitting with different heights & the higher it goes, the more syok it feels as it gives me a commanding view of the dining table & out to the balcony. But my wife did mention its so high  confused.gif I guess i will retry again &  see..

3. No measurement on width of wood or bench
At 1st i was thinking of 1' but most articles talk about 14 - 16". So maybe go for 14" then, can lie on it & use as day sleeping 'bed' ahahaa. Can 2" thick support 4 people ?

4. Currently no clear design how the wood is fixed to the metal frame (e.g. screwed in, locked in, dropped in?)
If possible want to keep it simple & cheap, so probably just screw the leg to the underneath of the wood.. What is locked in ? I saw yours is dropped in.

5. What type of metal? Metal, mild steel flat bar, stainless steel?
Stainless would be woooo..  so nice. If too expensive, maybe mild steel flat bar. Hope it can hold 4 people. But then those square hollow bar looks better.

6. Foot rest - one or 2 bar across?  Thickness / Width of metal?
Yoour question caught me, i guess i really need to do 3d drawing to visualise. At 1st i thought 1 bar to save cost, but to connect the bar to the 2 stands need a 'crossing' in the stand to hold the bar so its not simple also. Hmm..
Should the foot rest screw to the legs or soldered ? If screw, it will be easier for me to transport it back from the workshop.


7. Just a note, your wood is 8' (approx). This would make the bench quite heavy to move.
Oh, its 6', always got people complaining about my writing hahaa.
 
8. Edges of metal, rounded or square
This also havent thought. Meaning the 4 right angles of the legs ? Maybe a bit rounded in order not to scratche the floor

9. It would be easier if you found the wood and give it to the metal fabricator. So they can make sure the metal fit directly to the wood (sometimes wood warp and might not be straight).
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If i use the simplest & cheapest design, maybe just order the wood, then order 2 legs with holes for screws. Then Bring home & screw them myself ? Yet to check if 6' can fit into car onot .. Seems like this simple bench not so simple, need to transport things here there blink.gif
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I see, ok. Ya, later they do what they think i want haha
If i use the simplest & cheapest design, maybe just order the wood, then order 2 legs with holes for screws. Then Bring home & screw them myself ? Yet to check if 6' can fit into car onot .. Seems like this simple bench not so simple, need to transport things here there  blink.gif
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2. 23" height (floor to sitting), this would be for a counter and not dining table rite? Dining table chairs are usually 18" from floor to seating (it too tall, the person sitting would need to hunch over their plates to eat)
Yup, its a counter so the bench need to raise. I tried sitting with different heights & the higher it goes, the more syok it feels as it gives me a commanding view of the dining table & out to the balcony. But my wife did mention its so high confused.gif I guess i will retry again & see..

Yeah, same with my wife. Women have shorter bodies hence higher might not be better for them. Having a commanding view versus position to eat is very different. Even with my height, I feel its uncomfortable when I use my bench for eating. Drinking coffee is ok but not for eating. Maybe look at designing it shorter and if you still feel a need to make it higher can later add a cushion seat on the wood.

3. No measurement on width of wood or bench
At 1st i was thinking of 1' but most articles talk about 14 - 16". So maybe go for 14" then, can lie on it & use as day sleeping 'bed' ahahaa. Can 2" thick support 4 people ?

14" is minimum for width. 12" at the top also means 12" base - this could be too narrow causing the chair not too be stable. I was concern as well if my wood bench could support the weight of 4 people (4 x 75 kg average weight per person = 300 kg total weight) hence I designed the metal frame to provide additional support strength


4. Currently no clear design how the wood is fixed to the metal frame (e.g. screwed in, locked in, dropped in?)
If possible want to keep it simple & cheap, so probably just screw the leg to the underneath of the wood.. What is locked in ? I saw yours is dropped in.

If you want to drill in the legs to the underneath, then probably need to pre-drill the wood so it doesn't crack when you screw into the wood (this is also dependent on the wood type you choose). Locked in was another idea I have whereby you have a frame for the wood to slot in at the end. Essentially your bench legs are two rectangles sitting on top of each other - they are welded together. Larger rectangle is the legs while the smaller rectangle is equivalent to the thickness of the wood. I decided to finally use a drop in frame for my wood to sit on. The frame provided additional strength and later if I choose to, I can just lift up the wood and change to a different type. My wood bench is not screwed into the metal frame.

5. What type of metal? Metal, mild steel flat bar, stainless steel?
Stainless would be woooo.. so nice. If too expensive, maybe mild steel flat bar. Hope it can hold 4 people. But then those square hollow bar looks better.

Depends on house design, preference, etc. Stainless steel is bright and shiny. Mild steel flat bar is very strong but also very heavy. Your dimensions are about the same as mine. My entire bench weights around 18 - 22 kg. Can easily hold 4 pax. Take note with mild steel will have rust when in contact within 30 mins of air. Have to quickly clean it of rust and apply it with a clear aerosol spray to protect it from oxidation. I liked the raw mild steel look in contrast with wood. Gives it a very industrial + wood natural look


6. Foot rest - one or 2 bar across? Thickness / Width of metal?
Yoour question caught me, i guess i really need to do 3d drawing to visualise. At 1st i thought 1 bar to save cost, but to connect the bar to the 2 stands need a 'crossing' in the stand to hold the bar so its not simple also. Hmm..
Should the foot rest screw to the legs or soldered ? If screw, it will be easier for me to transport it back from the workshop.

Here's my little secret - I actually designed the size of my bench so it could be easily transported. biggrin.gif If you have access to a 4WD pick-up then no issues with transportation. Single welded piece is stronger than screws. I guess you could designed it with screws / fasteners but would need at least x2 thicker screws + spring washers to give it strength


7. Just a note, your wood is 8' (approx). This would make the bench quite heavy to move.
Oh, its 6', always got people complaining about my writing hahaa.

biggrin.gif Better do it on computer so no arguments about measurement later with the carpenter / metal fabricator


8. Edges of metal, rounded or square
This also havent thought. Meaning the 4 right angles of the legs ? Maybe a bit rounded in order not to scratche the floor

Depends on what type of floor you have. I actually have felt floor protectors under the mild steel legs to prevent floor scratches. Its quite heavy that its easier to drag than to lift up. FYI.


9. It would be easier if you found the wood and give it to the metal fabricator. So they can make sure the metal fit directly to the wood (sometimes wood warp and might not be straight).

If i use the simplest & cheapest design, maybe just order the wood, then order 2 legs with holes for screws. Then Bring home & screw them myself ? Yet to check if 6' can fit into car onot .. Seems like this simple bench not so simple, need to transport things here there blink.gif

It's not hard, just need to think and plan in more detail that's all. Once you do manage to do this, you will feel a strong sense of accomplishment. Plus the total cost for me was ridiculously cheap compared to the same bench dimensions shops outside were charging.

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Part 2 - Protective oil on wood plannks

Target to apply a layer of protective oil - to protect it against the elements and provide a layer of water protection to the wood.

Raw form of the wood after sanding.  Can see the wood grains visible giving it texture

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Applying a coat of wood oil on the wood planks. The wood darkens slightly on the application of the oil.  Application of the oil was very fast - took less than 15 minutes to complete.

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The wood grains can still be seen after the application of the oil.  Can see the contrast oil and non-oil application areas.

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Took around 2 hours for the wood to be fully cured with the oil.  And the final product looks like ....

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Realised don't really need to spend much money to re-use existing stuff around the house to breath new life into the items.
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Very good way to repurpose materials. thumbup.gif however not many ppl own a good sanding machine or know how to use one properly. cheers.

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Very good way to repurpose materials.  thumbup.gif  however not many ppl own a good sanding machine or know how to use one properly. cheers.
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Errr .... I initially didn't own one but thought it would be a worthwhile investment considering I was going to do some woodwork (It was!! Paid for itself multiple times over with the work done)

Didn't know how to use it at first well when I first bought it but thanks to 2 teachers - Experience and YouTube - haven't injure myself yet so far. biggrin.gif
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Errr .... I initially didn't own one but thought it would be a worthwhile investment considering I was going to do some woodwork (It was!! Paid for itself multiple times over with the work done)

Didn't know how to use it at first well when I first bought it but thanks to 2 teachers - Experience and YouTube - haven't injure myself yet so far.  biggrin.gif
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good for you. it's always never too late to learn a new skill.

I support your effort. I myself am ardent proponent of re-purposing materials like metals, woods and ceramics. gives them a new life instead of buying new. cheers.
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Tadaaa...
all set
worried whether the footrest will sag though

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Tadaaa...
all set
worried whether the footrest will sag though

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You really want the foot rest huh? biggrin.gif

Looking good ... I hope you pass them the finished wood so they can fabricate the metal. Get them to screw the wood to the metal frame so it is a whole chair when you collect it.

Reason if you get them to fabricate the metal frame then transport back to your place, the "footrest" metal might bend as it is the only horizontal metal piece connecting to the two legs.


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You really want the foot rest huh?  biggrin.gif

Looking good ... I hope you pass them the finished wood so they can fabricate the metal.  Get them to screw the wood to the metal frame so it is a whole chair when you collect it.

Reason if you get them to fabricate the metal frame then transport back to your place, the "footrest" metal might bend as it is the only horizontal metal piece connecting to the two legs.
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Still pondering over the bench height, anyway i think i can start shopping for the timber 1st.

Luckily 6' can fit into the car, but For 2.5" plank, i used a weight calculator in a website & it comes to nearly 40kg sweat.gif Yr pointer about the footrest bending got me concerned. This rest is a pain in the butt, without it things would be so much simpler but after trying out 20" seat height, my feet cant touch the ground so no choice then.

Its gonna be a back killer to move once screwed onto the metal frame. How much do u reckon yr frame weighs ? I m wondering if i can get it out of the car in one piece sad.gif
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Lol sorry, just noticed this.

Yeah the trestles are from ikea

Weight is around 30kg.

Material:
1. Pine wood: RM576
2. Mild steel flat bars: <RM40


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Lol sorry, just noticed this.

Yeah the trestles are from ikea

Weight is around 30kg.

Material:
1. Pine wood: RM576
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haha, thank you for replying, i am not rushing anyway. currently house is still...pending water pipes, electrical cables, and toilet doors rclxub.gif

only wetworks and sewage done, perhaps by next year nia get toilet door. now, erm...open concept =)
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Hi, I am looking for the above joint solidwood for the kitchen worktop as above.
Size around 8 feet x 2 feet and 9 feet x 2 feet.

Does anyone have any places to recommend for the above ?
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Hi, I am looking for the above joint solidwood for the kitchen worktop as above.
Size around 8 feet x 2 feet and 9 feet x 2 feet.

Does anyone have any places to recommend for the above ?
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https://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/products/80372299/
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Thanks for the reply but the one at ikea is only up to 8 feet and i need 9 feet..
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Thanks for the reply but the one at ikea is only up to 8 feet and i need 9 feet..
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If you want joined wood, not that difficult. (Single piece is definiitely more expensive and harder to find). The dimensions you wants are pretty easy too (8'x 2' or 9' x 2') especially for joined wood. You didn't specify the thickness of the kitchen block ... this could be the other deciding factor on the cost.

1. Best is for you to specify what type and how many joins ... you don't want the workshop to give you 5 pieces of different joined wood. Also specify how the wood are joined ... most of them will use wood glue only. When the wood warps, you can see the joins starts to split.

2. Specify the type of wood you want. Ikea wood might not stand the test of time and use if you are putting it in the kitchen (humidity, water, hard knocks, etc). Best is to use hard-tropical wood - teak, chenggal, balau, ironwood. These woods are used for outdoor in Malaysia (used to build bridges, jetty pier, etc), hence quite hardy. Avoid pine, you will see alot of dents on the wood very fast (sakit hati)

3. Colour and grain - depending on the wood type, you will then be restricted to the colour of the wood and the grain. Some wood barely has any grain. Teak is very "yellow" in colour, might not go with the kitchen deco. Yes, you can stain the wood but if you are using for kitchen countertop, maybe best to avoid anything that is not food grade near your food.

Look back at my earlier post, I did give 2 or 3 workshops that will do the wood joining. There are several wood specialist workshops pop-ping up, hence you have more choices now.


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QUOTE(bigred @ Feb 12 2019, 10:56 AM)
If you want joined wood, not that difficult. (Single piece is definiitely more expensive and harder to find).  The dimensions you wants are pretty easy too (8'x 2' or 9' x 2') especially for joined wood.  You didn't specify the thickness of the kitchen block ... this could be the other deciding factor on the cost.

1.  Best is for you to specify what type and how many joins ... you don't want the workshop to give you 5 pieces of different joined wood.  Also specify how the wood are joined ... most of them will use wood glue only.  When the wood warps, you can see the joins starts to split.

2.  Specify the type of wood you want.  Ikea wood might not stand the test of time and use if you are putting it in the kitchen (humidity, water, hard knocks, etc).  Best is to use hard-tropical wood - teak, chenggal, balau, ironwood.  These woods are used for outdoor in Malaysia (used to build bridges, jetty pier, etc), hence quite hardy.  Avoid pine, you will see alot of dents on the wood very fast (sakit hati)

3.  Colour and grain - depending on the wood type, you will then be restricted to the colour of the wood and the grain.  Some wood barely has any grain.  Teak is very "yellow" in colour, might not go with the kitchen deco.  Yes, you can stain the wood but if you are using for kitchen countertop, maybe best to avoid anything that is not food grade near your food.

Look back at my earlier post, I did give 2 or 3 workshops that will do the wood joining.  There are several wood specialist workshops pop-ping up, hence you have more choices now.
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recent project, replacing a damaged WC cover and also updating it to look more modern scandi/muji ish feel. biggrin.gif
2inch thick american red oak slab.

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recent project, replacing a damaged WC cover and also updating it to look more modern scandi/muji ish feel.  biggrin.gif
2inch thick american red oak slab.

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What's underneath the wood slab ? Plastic sheet?

Not concern about the high level of water humidity impacting the wood?
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What's underneath the wood slab ? Plastic sheet?

Not concern about the high level of water humidity impacting the wood?
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can coat it with poly
but not a concern in this case. as its just a concept idea and its solid oak. wont spoil so easily like nyatoh or meranti.
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post Apr 30 2019, 02:23 PM

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Hello Pak Bigred,

Wanna follow up your barn door. Any deflection, bending of your pine barn door? Gonna start sourcing mine soon.
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post Apr 30 2019, 05:22 PM

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Hello Pak Bigred,

Wanna follow up your barn door. Any deflection, bending of your pine barn door? Gonna start sourcing mine soon.
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Nope, so far after nearly 2 years of use still quite good.

No wood warping, no mold growth, no water damaged wood. I guess the waxed helped as still can see water beading if it hits the door. FYI, so far haven't applied a new wax layer since day 1.
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post Apr 30 2019, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Apr 30 2019, 05:22 PM)
Nope, so far after nearly 2 years of use still quite good. 

No wood warping, no mold growth, no water damaged wood.  I guess the waxed helped as still can see water beading if it hits the door.  FYI, so far haven't applied a new wax layer since day 1.
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Thank you for the fast answer, see your last comment was few weeks back. Will snap some photos here once mine is up

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post Apr 30 2019, 07:45 PM

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Thank you for the fast answer, see your last comment was few weeks back. Will snap some photos here once mine is up

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Real or architecture veneer brick?

You might want to plan first the location of the bolts for the barn door track (maybe drill it into the grouting - between where the bricks are laid). You can then decide on the length of the barn door.

Your barn door should be sliding right. Make sure have enough clearance space on the right for the door to fully open.

Good luck!
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post Apr 30 2019, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Apr 30 2019, 07:45 PM)
Real or architecture veneer brick?

You might want to plan first the location of the bolts for the barn door track (maybe drill it into the grouting - between where the bricks are laid).  You can then decide on the length of the barn door.

Your barn door should be sliding right. Make sure have enough clearance space on the right for the door to fully open.

Good luck!
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Ya good advice.
Real brick, yeah gotta buy the rail and fix it first, then measure the thing properly. Cos brick damn hard to drill. Space enough, about 2.5m to the right. My switches and plug on the left cos saw your one smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2019, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Apr 30 2019, 08:38 PM)
Ya good advice.
Real brick, yeah gotta buy the rail and fix it first, then measure the thing properly. Cos brick damn hard to drill. Space enough, about 2.5m to the right. My switches and plug on the left cos saw your one smile.gif
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Good observation! You improved on my mistake.😁

One more tip, make sure the door width extends by at least 2.5 - 3 inches over the doorway on the right. Cause the barn door track protrudes by at least 1" from the wall (for the roller mechanism to fit). Hence you need the 2.5 - 3" overlap to fully close off the gap.


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post Apr 30 2019, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(bigred @ Apr 30 2019, 10:28 PM)
Good observation! You improved on my mistake.😁

One more tip, make sure the door width extends by at least 2.5 - 3 inches over the doorway on the right. Cause the barn door track protrudes by at least 1" from the wall (for the roller mechanism to fit).  Hence you need the 2.5 - 3" overlap to fully close off the gap.
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Ya, else ppl can skodeng. Just wondering how you open the door from inside since no handle? Looked online they used flushed handle, but I was thinking more to towing strap like cars cos flat.

Outside bars shoppe selling a lot. Inside ones, any other ideas?
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post May 1 2019, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Apr 30 2019, 11:46 PM)
Ya, else ppl can skodeng. Just wondering how you open the door from inside since no handle? Looked online they used flushed handle, but I was thinking more to towing strap like cars cos flat.

Outside bars shoppe selling a lot. Inside ones, any other ideas?
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This is what I got.

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Can be used to lock the door as well as a handle

Alternative an easier is to get a leather strap. These are sold as key straps, quite easy just to screw it on to the pine door.

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Or can try to find these retro window / door locks


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post May 1 2019, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(bigred @ May 1 2019, 01:03 AM)
This is what I got.

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Can be used to lock the door as well as a handle

Alternative an easier is to get a leather strap. These are sold as key straps, quite easy just to screw it on to the pine door.

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Or can try to find these retro window / door locks
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Ya thinking that leather thing, but using nylon cos leather not so good with water!

Okies I go make it first wish me luck and thank youuu again

 

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