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post Aug 21 2017, 11:00 PM, updated 2 months ago

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https://www.oto.com/berita-mobil/mitsubishi...a-br-v-21166641


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post Aug 21 2017, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 21 2017, 11:00 PM)
Well at least it looks better then the BRV.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 21 2017, 11:06 PM)
Well at least it looks better then the BRV.
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post Aug 22 2017, 09:34 AM

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The brand power though, it's just not there.
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Depends Mitsubishi want to enter mass market or cater for niche only. Price n equipment list play an important role here.
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The new Pajero sport still not here yet, will this all new model enter malaysia? hmm.gif
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post Aug 22 2017, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Aug 22 2017, 11:30 AM)
The new Pajero sport still not here yet, will this all new model enter malaysia? hmm.gif
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https://m.carlist.my/news/jakarta-2017-mits...n-nissan/46781/

Mitsubishi said yes according to Reuters report
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HANS  |  AUGUST 14, 2017 11:46 AM

Jakarta 2017: Mitsubishi To Export Xpander MPV To Malaysia In 2018, Confirmed As Next Generation Nissan MPV

Mitsubishi Motors have confirmed that the all-new seven-seater Xpander that has just made its global debut at the Gaikindo Indonesia International Auto Show (GIIAS) last week will be exported to neighbouring countries in the ASEAN region starting February 2018, reports Reuters.

The report by the London-based news agency quoted Mitsubishi Motors CEO Osamu Masuko as saying, "We will export this car across ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries starting next February.”

It also added that exports will begin first for Philippines, followed by Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam......

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post Aug 22 2017, 11:55 AM

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yes but BRV still hot sell than this Xpander off course , unkess it sell below BRV price , which is impossible
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post Aug 22 2017, 12:06 PM

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Toyoda Hiace also better looking!
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post Aug 22 2017, 12:10 PM

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Price brings the big factor...

Sell it cheaper and equipped more fixtures..

It had a good changes.
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post Aug 23 2017, 06:11 PM

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http://www.philstar.com/motoring/2017/08/2...arta?nomobile=1

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That good?

Hmmmm...........


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post Aug 23 2017, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Killmeplsok @ Aug 22 2017, 09:34 AM)
The brand power though, it's just not there.
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But the service is M>H by wide margin

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/jd-p...index-csi-study
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 23 2017, 08:37 PM)
More like due to the SC being empty. ASX became non-relevant, and Attrage was even lesser found than Suzuki Alto. I've seen more Outlander than Attrage.

In the end still depends on price & equipment list.









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post Aug 24 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 23 2017, 10:44 PM)
More like due to the SC being empty. ASX became non-relevant, and Attrage was even lesser found than Suzuki Alto. I've seen more Outlander than Attrage.

In the end still depends on price & equipment list.
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The service level has no direct correlation with number of car sold

Take June 2017 YTD sales for example

Mitsubishi 3658
Volkswagen 2717
Ford 3089

If we choose to take the logic of more car sold than the service is weaker . In terms of service survey result , the brand ranking should have been:

Volkswagen should be on the top follow by Ford and thereafter Mitsubishi. V>F>M

But the survey showed service ranking is M >V>F

If we refer further to other brand say Toyota which sold more car than than Nissan and Mazda by wide margin yet Toyota service is ranked #1
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This data may be 10 years old and I'm a bit lazy to try to look up on the sales data -

In 2006, the Civic 8 was released. But in 2007 - Mitsubishi tried to one up Honda with their Lancer X.
They did succeed for awhile - really good price and specs too. But eventually supply couldn't keep up with Demand and over that period of time, the Civic still came out the eventual winner.

So if history is any indication of how things will be, then the BRV is probably in a better position to fend off Mitsubishi
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 24 2017, 09:50 AM)
This data may be 10 years old and I'm a bit lazy to try to look up on the sales data -

In 2006, the Civic 8 was released. But in 2007 - Mitsubishi tried to one up Honda with their Lancer X.
They did succeed for awhile - really good price and specs too. But eventually supply couldn't keep up with Demand and over that period of time, the Civic still came out the eventual winner.

So if history is any indication of how things will be, then the BRV is probably in a better position to fend off Mitsubishi
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That was when Mitsubishi was on their own. Everything was built by them and them alone?

This Xpander is going to be a shared cost model with Nissan for new grand Livina under the new Renault Nissan alliance.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesi...s-idUSKBN1AQ1EE

if they can bring the cost down since the scale is up, which they should since now they could, then they have a better fighting chance if they translate that into a better equipped car with lower pricing


See the excitement as far as India below, already rendering is being drawn...LOL

http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/2018-ni...endering-276407



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post Aug 24 2017, 10:16 AM

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The Mitsubishi looks nice.

But the price has to match the BRV

I like the Honda Shutter the most but it's not sold here

Seen quite a few in Spore


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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 10:04 AM)
That was when Mitsubishi was on their own. Everything was built by them and them alone?

This Xpander is going to be a shared cost model with Nissan for new grand Livina under the new Renault Nissan alliance.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesi...s-idUSKBN1AQ1EE

if they can bring the cost down since the scale is up, which they should since now they could, then they have a better fighting chance if they translate that into a better equipped car with lower pricing
See the excitement as far as India below, already rendering is being drawn...LOL

http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/2018-ni...endering-276407
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Aye, I forgot about the new alliance. Haven't been following car news much in recent years.

But even taking recent events into account.

- The ASX, Outlander, Sylphy, Teana or the X-trail does not outsell Honda's Civic, Accord, HRV or CRV
- The Almera does not outsell the City/Vios.
- The Livina has held well against no/limited competition other than the outdated Rush and the overpriced Freed.
- Direct Rival for Livina seems to be the Toyota Sienta rather than the Honda BRV
- Mitsubishi most popular model is the Triton

Basing everything off memory so take its accuracy with a grain of salt.

If the Xpander is launched for both marques, wouldn't it be in Cantonese terms - Ghost hit Ghost?

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Do have to admit it's quite a nice looking car as compared to BR-V. I do wish they have given a bit more techs and darker interior.

But then again, this is aimed to poke at the likes of mobilio, avanza...
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Aug 22 2017, 11:55 AM)
yes but BRV still hot sell than this Xpander off course , unkess it sell below BRV price , which is impossible
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Based on price listed in the screenshot, it is cheaper than the BRV. (at least in Indo)
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Aug 24 2017, 10:52 AM)
Based on price listed in the screenshot, it is cheaper than the BRV. (at least in Indo)
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indo off course,, in malaysia nope .. sure over RM90K .. thanks to our gomen for high tax ...
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QUOTE(aquilaTE @ Aug 24 2017, 10:51 AM)
Do have to admit it's quite a nice looking car as compared to BR-V. I do wish they have given a bit more techs and darker interior.

But then again, this is aimed to poke at the likes of mobilio, avanza...
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http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/mitsubi...s-leaked-277313

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post Aug 24 2017, 01:01 PM

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@zweimmk

in Malaysia, Nissan has always been a weaker brand all along compare to Honda, so was Mitsubishi. No contest.

Nissan's design has always been dated due to TCM always slow slow bring in new models and by the time they do, they are dated on the date they are launched Unlike Honda always timely with their products refresh every few years.

But Mitsubishi is not under TCM....and guess what? In the context of South East Asia Mitsubishi is regarded higher than Nissan

https://asia.nikkei.com/Features/Multinatio...ast-Asia?page=2

Take a look at the market share of Mitsubishi vs Nissan in Thailand & Indonesia below

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Despite having smaller product line up, M>N in these countries in terms of market share. But more importantly if you add the market shares of both brands, it becomes over or near Honda's

That is the power of the Alliance. If Mitsubishi as a stronger brand compares to Nissan now has access to the Alliance platform is able to expand their products offering (they need not start from ground up now) , just imagine the potential.


Last but not least guess who is #2 behind toyota in Philippine?
https://www.carmudi.com.ph/journal/local-au...-january-sales/
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Xpander i reckon is just the start of exciting time ahead for Mitsubishi

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Xpander is definitely heavier and bigger than BRV but only have 104hp and using 4AT compared to BRV 120hp and using CVT..Wonder what is the fuel consumption eatw? Mitsubishi have not publish any figure for Xpander..
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 09:29 AM)
The service level has no direct correlation with number of car sold

Take June 2017 YTD sales for example

Mitsubishi 3658
Volkswagen 2717
Ford 3089

If we choose to take the logic of more car sold than the service is weaker . In terms of service survey result , the brand ranking should have  been:

Volkswagen should be on the top follow by Ford and thereafter Mitsubishi. V>F>M

But the survey showed service ranking is M >V>F

If we refer further to other brand say Toyota which sold more car than than Nissan and Mazda by wide margin yet Toyota service is ranked #1
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VW & Ford already known shitty SC regardless of quantity.

Toyota SC capacity is over the top, their SC capacity topped during their golden times. Now sales half of Honda, sure good. Anyone can walk in without booking. Try Honda, you need to pre-book months ahead.

Yes, it has correlation. But not for famous lousy SC brands like VW or Peugeot.

Let's see how Mitsubishi play this.


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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 01:01 PM)
@zweimmk

in Malaysia, Nissan has always been a weaker brand all along compare to Honda, so was Mitsubishi. No contest.

Nissan's design has always been dated due to TCM always slow slow bring in new models and by the time they do, they are dated on the date they are launched Unlike Honda always timely with their products refresh every few years.

But Mitsubishi is not under TCM....and guess what? In the context of South East Asia Mitsubishi is regarded higher than Nissan

https://asia.nikkei.com/Features/Multinatio...ast-Asia?page=2

Take a look at the market share of Mitsubishi vs Nissan in Thailand & Indonesia below

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Despite having smaller product line up, M>N in these countries in terms of market share. But more importantly if you add the market shares of both brands, it becomes over or near Honda's

That is the power of the Alliance. If Mitsubishi as a stronger brand compares to Nissan now has access to  the Alliance platform is able to expand their products offering (they need not start from ground up now) , just imagine the potential.
Last but not least guess who is #2 behind toyota in Philippine?
https://www.carmudi.com.ph/journal/local-au...-january-sales/
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Xpander i reckon is just the start of exciting time ahead for Mitsubishi
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I was only thinking about Malaysia, I didn't realize we were also talking about other markets. Quite surprised to learn how much volume they command with the treble alliance.

In Thailand, the combined sales of Nissan and Mitsubishi should equal or better Honda. But they are in decline. It is the same story in Indonesia. Therefore, they either need a product refresh or branding refocusing

So my opinion is they should let one of the brands retreat from both Thailand and Indonesia and even Philippines to avoid the ghost hit ghost scenario. It would make better sense to consolidate their operations to better improve overall operations and profits.

For example if Mitsubishi is doing better in most of the regional markets then perhaps Nissan should retreat and let Mitsubishi take over sales. They can always cross sell the type of cars:

Mitsubishi Almera instead of Attrage
Mitsubishi Triton and Naverra (one lower and one higher spec)
Mitsubishi Lancer (instead of calling it Slyphy)
Mitsubishi ASX + Outlander
Mitsubishi X-Trail
Mitsubishi Livina and Xpander (One is mini 7 seater and the other SUV)
Mitsubishi Diamente (but using Teana)
Mitsubishi Elgrand

The days of small independent manufacturer really looks bleaker everyday forward. Platform and parts sharing is really the way forward in reducing cost.


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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 24 2017, 01:53 PM)
VW & Ford already known shitty SC regardless of quantity.

Toyota SC capacity is over the top, their SC capacity topped during their golden times. Now sales half of Honda, sure good. Anyone can walk in without booking. Try Honda, you need to pre-book months ahead.

Yes, it has correlation. But not for famous lousy SC brands like VW or Peugeot.

Let's see how Mitsubishi play this.
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Am not too sure that would be an accurate description of Toyota SC , walk in without booking . So less car better service correlation is still inaccurate because there are other factors at play.

In any case, honda is now known as the group of lousy SC? That is why it is at the bottom even lower than VW and Ford.?

Given this as one of the consideration , (another being the declining build quality that was reported ), one have to think twice about buying another Honda surely? And this hesitation is perhaps a room of opportunity open for Mitsubishi or others to take advantage of?
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 24 2017, 02:10 PM)
I was only thinking about Malaysia, I didn't realize we were also talking about other markets. Quite surprised to learn how much volume they command with the treble alliance.

In Thailand, the combined sales of Nissan and Mitsubishi should equal or better Honda. But they are in decline. It is the same story in Indonesia. Therefore, they either need a product refresh or branding refocusing

So my opinion is they should let one of the brands retreat from both Thailand and Indonesia and even Philippines to avoid the ghost hit ghost scenario. It would make better sense to consolidate their operations to better improve overall operations and profits.

For example if Mitsubishi is doing better in most of the regional markets then perhaps Nissan should retreat and let Mitsubishi take over sales. They can always cross sell the type of cars:

Mitsubishi Almera instead of Attrage
Mitsubishi Triton and Naverra (one lower and one higher spec)
Mitsubishi Lancer (instead of calling it Slyphy)
Mitsubishi ASX + Outlander
Mitsubishi X-Trail
Mitsubishi Livina and Xpander (One is mini 7 seater and the other SUV)
Mitsubishi Diamente (but using Teana)
Mitsubishi Elgrand

The days of small independent manufacturer really looks bleaker everyday forward. Platform and parts sharing is really the way forward in reducing cost.
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Aug 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
indo off course,, in malaysia nope .. sure over RM90K .. thanks to our gomen for high tax ...
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Sure? Do you know something that we don't know yet. You insider izzit, tell more please?

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 01:00 PM)
http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/mitsubi...s-leaked-277313

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 02:50 PM)
Am not too sure that would be an accurate description of Toyota SC , walk in without booking  . So less car better service correlation is still inaccurate because there are other factors at play.

In any case, honda is now known as the group of lousy SC? That is why it is at the bottom even lower than VW and Ford.?

Given this as one of the consideration , (another being the declining build quality that was reported ), one have to think twice about buying another Honda surely? And this hesitation is perhaps a room of opportunity open for Mitsubishi or others to take advantage of?
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Honda SC are too scarce & too limited to cater for the sales boom it got. Honda build quality has always been like that - uneven fittings of sorts but hardly heart-breaking compare to... the issue with VW/Peugeot, esp Peugeot, the bad reliability and bad responsibility from their respective SC.

Speaking of which, that 7yrs extension of Peugeot warranty seems more like 7yrs of vomiting dealing with the SC and not 7yrs of worry-free experience.


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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 24 2017, 07:09 PM)
Honda SC are too scarce & too limited to cater for the sales boom it got. Honda build quality has always been like that - uneven fittings of sorts but hardly heart-breaking compare to... the issue with VW/Peugeot, esp Peugeot, the bad reliability and bad responsibility from their respective SC.

Speaking of which, that 7yrs extension of Peugeot warranty seems more like 7yrs of vomiting dealing with the SC and not 7yrs of worry-free experience.
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Good sales boom can never be a good excuse for bad service. I hope Honda improve and show a better performance in future years but till then, perhaps you will excused me to be more inclined to Mitsubishi.

I speak.from experience as my wife and I have owned and also had service experience from both Honda and Mitsubishi in KL area. And more than 5 years each brand. Honestly M>H as far as authorized SC is concerned
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 09:03 PM)
Good sales boom can never be a good excuse for bad service. I hope Honda improve and show a better performance in future years but till then, perhaps you will excused me to be more inclined to Mitsubishi.

I speak.from experience as  my wife and I have owned and also had service experience from both Honda and Mitsubishi in KL area. And more than 5 years each brand. Honestly M>H as far as authorized SC is concerned
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Inclined to any brand is alright. But ranking high in JD Power regarding service satisfactory doesn't mean it has brand power.

Anyway the car has yet to release... so hope Mitsu don't screw themselves.





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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 24 2017, 10:01 PM)
Inclined to any brand is alright. But ranking high in JD Power regarding service satisfactory doesn't mean it has brand power. 

Anyway the car has yet to release... so hope Mitsu don't screw themselves.
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The discussion was not never about brand power , it was about the service level of one brand which was consistently good (Top 3) and another which has declined dramatically.

Just look at the last 3 years JD power customer service index surveys and look at Mitsubishi and Honda and tell me what you see.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 25 2017, 04:06 AM)
The discussion was not never about brand power , it was about the service level of one brand which was consistently good (Top 3) and another which has declined dramatically.

Just look at the last 3 years JD power customer service index surveys and look at Mitsubishi and Honda and tell me what you see.

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I know its not an excuse but considering that they (Honda) have had an explosive growth over the last few years due to:

- More product refresh
- More car models
- Competitive pricing
- Improved specification

It's not surprisingly at all if their service level have dropped due to increased demands and stresses on the existing centers. Even in the past, Honda has never been known for very strong after sales service in my opinion.

On the other hand, Mitsubishi only have 4 car models now:

- The Attrage probably doesn't sell much. I don't even remember when was the last time I actually saw 1 on the road. This car desperately needs a refresh or a model change.
- Mirage has been discontinued
- ASX and outlander sales are far and few in between
- I wager most of their sales come from the Triton pickup

If they cannot deliver better service with such low volumes then it would really be a shame.


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So can the xpander topple the BRV in the short term if it launches here?

Yes, if its cheaper and better equipped. Also if they can keep the waiting period short and avoid the Lancer Fiasco altogether (1 year waiting period)

But historically, Mitsubishi has never really been able to overcome or keep their eye on the ball which leads them to fall behind. Maybe this new treble alliance will finally give them the edge they need to return to form.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 02:50 PM)
Given this as one of the consideration , (another being the declining build quality that was reported ), one have to think twice about buying another Honda surely? And this hesitation is perhaps a room of opportunity open for Mitsubishi or others to take advantage of?
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Even if the SC service is as bad as people claims. People will still buy the Honda marque because:

- Long history in Malaysia
- Their car are relatively problem free
- Their cars have good resale value; the civic is the king when it comes to resale
- Not expensive to maintain
- Parts are easy to find, no fear of breakdown - local car mechanics have no issue dealing with T&H cars
- VTEC prangggg seems to still have a huge effect on young people today, hence the desirability

Just points 2 to 5 alone is more than enough to carry their brand.

Just to be clear also, consistent build quality is also one of Honda's weakness - First hand experience, for me - it's both irritating and a nuisance. For others, they outright hate it. But it's not something that would affect the car performance or safety. So till today, many people still bang and bitch about this issue - but it never really goes away.

Now Mitsubishi on the other hand:

- limited car selection
- except for the Triton, the other cars don't seem to carry its resale value as well
- cars should be relatively problem free
- cars should be cheap to maintain
- parts might not be as easy to find because less common but should still be relatively hassle free

It would be a very small room of opportunity. They would need to make sure those customers (like yourself) taking the leap of faith, are well taken care of so that they can build on from there.

In the near term, I don't think they will overtake Honda. Difficult to predict how they will fare long term.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 25 2017, 04:06 AM)
The discussion was not never about brand power , it was about the service level of one brand which was consistently good (Top 3) and another which has declined dramatically.

Just look at the last 3 years JD power customer service index surveys and look at Mitsubishi and Honda and tell me what you see.

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I would first like to know what were the surveys' questions and the sample size, then I could tell you more.

Still have to see their pricing & equipment list. They screwed themselves on Attrage.

IMO, cars below 100k, people tends to get tried & tested cars.
eg. RM70k +/- 5k will be Alza, Avanza, Vios, City, Jazz
eg. RM80k +/- 5k will be Vios, City, BRV, Jazz <--- Xpander in this range?
eg. RM100k +/- 5k will be City, HRV


Seems like the Xpander need to be better than BRV in the same time selling with similar price.

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Look exactly like Peugeot 3008. From PT source, luckily engine not EP6 engine.

** Update **

Engine is 4A91 used on Lancer EX (sold mostly in SG) and smart forfour. Highly reliable as I've a smart forfour for 10 years old already.

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indo off course,, in malaysia nope .. sure over RM90K .. thanks to our gomen for high tax ...
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If they cannot deliver better service with such low volumes then it would really be a shame.
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Low volume also does not equates to good service, can you think of other brands that have similar volume level and limited product offering and get ranked top 3 in the past 3 years?. I think it is easy to discredit a low volume seller and undermine the effort they may have put in to have a good customer service level this way. It is just too convenient and lazy to assume such way

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Even if the SC service is as bad as people claims. People will still buy the Honda marque because:

- Long history in Malaysia
- Their car are relatively problem free
- Their cars have good resale value; the civic is the king when it comes to resale
- Not expensive to maintain
- Parts are easy to find, no fear of breakdown - local car mechanics have no issue dealing with T&H cars
- VTEC prangggg seems to still have a huge effect on young people today, hence the desirability

Just points 2 to 5 alone is more than enough to carry their brand.

Just to be clear also, consistent build quality is also one of Honda's weakness - First hand experience, for me - it's both irritating and a nuisance. For others, they outright hate it. But it's not something that would affect the car performance or safety. So till today, many people still bang and bitch about this issue - but it never really goes away.

Now Mitsubishi on the other hand:

- limited car selection
- except for the Triton, the other cars don't seem to carry its resale value as well
- cars should be relatively problem free
- cars should be cheap to maintain
- parts might not be as easy to find because less common but should still be relatively hassle free

It would be a very small room of opportunity. They would need to make sure those customers (like yourself) taking the leap of faith, are well taken care of so that they can build on from there.

In the near term, I don't think they will overtake Honda. Difficult to predict how they will fare long term.
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How did Mazda CX5 unseated best selling c segment SUV from the long reigning honda CRV?
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Engine is 4A91 used on Lancer EX (sold mostly in SG) and smart forfour. Highly reliable as I've a smart forfour for 10 years old already.
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How did Mazda CX5 unseated best selling c segment SUV from the long reigning honda CRV?
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Could be any of the reasons below:

Pricing?
Good Promotion?
Good kit?
More appealing design?

I remember when they first launched the CX5, it was seriously a good bargain for the kit and price. They launched the CBU unit that was quite loaded with goodies such as LED headlights and bose speakers etc.

Then when CKD production came, the price also went down - I could be wrong, just basing on what I remember or heard.

You can look at the price list as well, the CX5 base model is still cheaper than the CRV base model by 6k or 7k?

And then recently had a discussion with another member here, the distributor were selling the CX5 at extremely slim profit margins. Whereas the Mazda 6 was completely priced in a manner which did not make sense at all against its competition.

What's your take?

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 25 2017, 11:48 AM)
Low volume also does not equates to good service, can you think of other brands that have similar volume level and limited product offering and get ranked top 3 in the past 3 years?. I think it is easy to discredit a low volume seller and undermine the effort they may have put in to have a good customer service level this way. It is just too convenient and lazy to assume such way
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Irregardless, as long as they aren't screwing up on their after sales then its a good thing.

The bigger problem they have now is having a product line which will make people get excited about buying.





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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 25 2017, 12:17 PM)
Could be any of the reasons below:

Pricing?
Good Promotion?
Good kit?
More appealing design?

I remember when they first launched the CX5, it was seriously a good bargain for the kit and price. They launched the CBU unit that was quite loaded with goodies such as LED headlights and bose speakers etc.

Then when CKD production came, the price also went down - I could be wrong, just basing on what I remember or heard.

You can look at the price list as well, the CX5 base model is still cheaper than the CRV base model by 6k or 7k?

And then recently had a discussion with another member here, the distributor were selling the CX5 at extremely slim profit margins. Whereas the Mazda 6 was completely priced in a manner which did not make sense at all against its competition.

What's your take?
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Exactly. There you have it a winning formula . Despite being a lesser know brand, harder to get parts. Remember the day before CX5?

Underdog sometimes need just one model to have a winner even if they lost out in brand , lost out in to the whole other scheme of things .

Hence my question : can this Xpander be another story of David vs Goliath?
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Irregardless, as long as they aren't screwing up on their after sales then its a good thing.

The bigger problem they have now is having a product line which will make people get excited about buying.
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They have a a new design lingo. The X face. Poper code name:
Dynamic shield

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/indu...ehiro-kunimoto/


Like Kodo design , they can renew it later with other model line up , old or new of which some they can take from the fugly looking Nissan.




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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 25 2017, 11:57 AM)
How did Mazda CX5 unseated best selling c segment SUV from the long reigning honda CRV?
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CRV from 3rd gen to .. the one before the current new one... basically same thing just change outlook getting uglier and uglier. Just happen CX5 came in the right moment. Even Nissan didn't bother to change their boxy X-Trail until the market saturated by CX5 and new CRV almost due. And Toyota didn't even bother with RAV4.

BRV is still fresh. And if Honda didn't up their SC, probably Xpander would steal some of the pie later on.

Or Honda thought BRV needed a facelift when Xpander debut here?





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Low volume also does not equates to good service, can you think of other brands that have similar volume level and limited product offering and get ranked top 3 in the past 3 years?. I think it is easy to discredit a low volume seller and undermine the effort they may have put in to have a good customer service level this way. It is just too convenient and lazy to assume such way
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My take is this, usually for those low volume brands, the local distributor itself is juggling a number of other brands or car sales are not their core business activity. So naturally, the brands/divisions that can give the best margin get the best/most resources for customer service and after sales service.

QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 25 2017, 12:34 PM)
Exactly. There you have it a winning formula . Despite being a lesser know brand, harder to get parts. Remember the day before CX5?

Underdog sometimes need just one model to have a winner even if they lost out in brand , lost out in to the whole other scheme of things .

Hence my question : can this Xpander be another story of David vs Goliath?
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It was good timing for mazda, it was just before the design transformation of both toyota and honda. Those were the times where both Toyota/honda was pretty snobbish. No doubt the CX5 pricing was a good attraction, and the free 3 years free service is pretty much segment leading after sale feature among the japanese camp.

Now with the pricing step up and the new design language and performance boost on honda's end, CX5 will see a significant loss of interest; even more so when the new CX5 looks like just another facelift despite being a new generation model.
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 25 2017, 02:47 PM)
CRV from 3rd gen to .. the one before the current new one... basically same thing just change outlook getting uglier and uglier. Just happen CX5 came in the right moment. Even Nissan didn't bother to change their boxy X-Trail until the market saturated by CX5 and new CRV almost due. And Toyota didn't even bother with RAV4.

BRV is still fresh. And if Honda didn't up their SC, probably Xpander would steal some of the pie later on.

Or Honda thought BRV needed a facelift when Xpander debut here?
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Timing I agree play a role too.

High riding SUV like MPV is a newly catch on thing where ground clearance of 200mm is the expected minimum requirements

There are not many serious competition to BRV now. Any challenger will be a thing to be welcomed, at least buyer have more choices
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My take is this, usually for those low volume brands, the local distributor itself is juggling a number of other brands or car sales are not their core business activity. So naturally, the brands/divisions that can give the best margin get the best/most resources for customer service and after sales service.
It was good timing for mazda, it was just before the design transformation of both toyota and honda. Those were the times where both Toyota/honda was pretty snobbish. No doubt the CX5 pricing was a good attraction, and the free 3 years free service is pretty much segment leading after sale feature among the japanese camp.

Now with the pricing step up and the new design language and performance boost on honda's end, CX5 will see a significant loss of interest; even more so when the new CX5 looks like just another facelift despite being a new generation model.
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So since Mitsubishi and Honda authorised distributor and service centres are from the same principal DRB Hicom group of companies, are you saying Honda gives lower margin and Mitsubishi gives higher margin?

Yes I agree timing can play a role too. Wait till you see the real deal new CX5 , I have seen it in Japan . My head was turned back until it hurts , to me it looks so much sharper and premium . The new CRV still turn me off because of many quirky and jarring bordering eye sore causing design oddities . Much like BRV in certain ways

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Timing I agree play a role too.

High riding SUV like MPV is a newly catch on thing where ground clearance of 200mm is the expected minimum requirements

There are not many serious competition to BRV now. Any challenger will be a thing to be welcomed, at least buyer have more choices
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So since Mitsubishi and Honda authorised distributor and service centres are from the same principal DRB Hicom group of companies, are you saying Honda gives lower margin and Mitsubishi gives higher margin?

Yes I agree timing can play a role too. Wait till you see the real deal new CX5 , I have seen it in Japan . My head was turned back until it hurts , to me it looks so much sharper and premium . The new CRV still turn me off because of many quirky and jarring bordering eye sore causing design oddities . Much like BRV in certain ways
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Market conditions today are a lot more different than it was back in 2011/2012. Honda and even to some extend, Toyota, has finally started to give their cars more kit and warranty for the asking price. So it's definitely much more competitive now than it was then. Even semi-premium marques like VW has started to price their cars a lot more reasonably (no thanks to all their scandals and fiasco), and if you haven't already noticed - even premium marques like BMW/Mercedes/Volvo have even started to sell their entry level sedans at 160k to 170k marque, which may entice some of the buyers from the 140k-150k market.

Saw some photos of the new CX5 - it looks good but more like an evolution of the current design. Agree that the new CRV looks funny in some ways but one of its trump cards is the new Earth Dreams 1.5TC engine which Mazda has no counter for. Whether or not this makes a difference in sales figures is anyone's guess but for those of us who have been so used to the turbo kick, going back to NA will be somewhat of a challenge.

In the end, I think it depends on the pricing. Have you taken a look at the Mazda cars pricing?

Mazda 2 - kind of priced out of the City/Vios/Almera/Attrage war
CX3 - a little priced out against the HRV and 2008?, looks to compete against the new T-Roc
CX5 - competitive against CRV, X-trail
Mazda 3 - competitive against Civic, Altis, Jetta, 408?
Mazda 6 - completely priced out of competition against all its rivals - conti or otherwise

If the new CX5 continues the same pricing policy as the old CX5 while still giving good kit, it should be able to limit the impact of the new CRV. Difficult to say if they will maintain the sales lead but at least it will be a neck to neck battle.

The Xpander has a good chance of succeeding. Design looks good, Equipment looks decent - so it comes down to how they will price it in Malaysia. But Mitsubishi may find themselves facing the same profit margin issue that I and wkc5657 have discussed a week or 2 back. Do they go for market share while trying to survive on razor thin margins or go for better profits with the risk of pricing themselves out of the competition. This is also a problem that is facing the Kia Optima GT as well.


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Market conditions today are a lot more different than it was back in 2011/2012. Honda and even to some extend, Toyota, has finally started to give their cars more kit and warranty for the asking price. So it's definitely much more competitive now than it was then. Even semi-premium marques like VW has started to price their cars a lot more reasonably (no thanks to all their scandals and fiasco), and if you haven't already noticed - even premium marques like BMW/Mercedes/Volvo have even started to sell their entry level sedans at 160k to 170k marque, which may entice some of the buyers from the 140k-150k market.

Saw some photos of the new CX5 - it looks good but more like an evolution of the current design. Agree that the new CRV looks funny in some ways but one of its trump cards is the new Earth Dreams 1.5TC engine which Mazda has no counter for. Whether or not this makes a difference in sales figures is anyone's guess but for those of us who have been so used to the turbo kick, going back to NA will be somewhat of a challenge.

In the end, I think it depends on the pricing. Have you taken a look at the Mazda cars pricing?

Mazda 2 - kind of priced out of the City/Vios/Almera/Attrage war
CX3 - a little priced out against the HRV and 2008?, looks to compete against the new T-Roc
CX5 - competitive against CRV, X-trail
Mazda 3 - competitive against Civic, Altis, Jetta, 408?
Mazda 6 - completely priced out of competition against all its rivals - conti or otherwise

If the new CX5 continues the same pricing policy as the old CX5 while still giving good kit, it should be able to limit the impact of the new CRV. Difficult to say if they will maintain the sales lead but at least it will be a neck to neck battle.

The Xpander has a good chance of succeeding. Design looks good, Equipment looks decent - so it comes down to how they will price it in Malaysia. But Mitsubishi may find themselves facing the same profit margin issue that I and wkc5657 have discussed a week or 2 back. Do they go for market share while trying to survive on razor thin margins or go for better profits with the risk of pricing themselves out of the competition. This is also a problem that is facing the Kia Optima GT as well.
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As far as Mazda is concerned, below is the turbo boost to Mazda's brand thanks to Toyota


https://www.forbes.com/sites/danroth/2017/0...a/#ae7ddc9d3d81

Cost will go down for Mazda in long run. I stress long run
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 26 2017, 10:56 PM)
As far as Mazda is concerned, below is the turbo boost to Mazda's brand thanks to Toyota
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danroth/2017/0...a/#ae7ddc9d3d81

Cost will go down for Mazda in long run. I stress long run
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It's a joint electrical vehicle development and a production facility in the US. So yes, cost will go down - just not in our region. If they are building a joint production facility in Thailand, things may change considerably.

Anyway, this isn't related and it will be a few years before we know if Mitsubishi will succeed.
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It's a joint electrical vehicle development and a production facility in the US. So yes, cost will go down - just not in our region. If they are building a joint production facility in Thailand, things may change considerably.

Anyway, this isn't related and it will be a few years before we know if Mitsubishi will succeed.
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http://www.autonews.com/article/20150513/O...s-confront-cost

If you recall the engagement was done in 2015. This 2017 is just one of more eventual things to come. I guess you still miss my long term emphasis... Even though I have stress it in my earlier reply to you

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 27 2017, 11:37 AM)
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150513/O...s-confront-cost

If you recall the engagement was done in 2015. This 2017 is just one  of more eventual things to come. I guess you still miss my long term emphasis... Even though I have stress it in my earlier reply to you
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I didn't miss anything because much of what you are saying won't bear fruit many years from today and isn't directly affecting our market. So there really isn't a whole lot to talk about.


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So since Mitsubishi and Honda authorised distributor and service centres are from the same principal DRB Hicom group of companies, are you saying Honda gives lower margin and Mitsubishi gives higher margin?

Yes I agree timing can play a role too. Wait till you see the real deal new CX5 , I have seen it in Japan . My head was turned back until it hurts , to me it looks so much sharper and premium . The new CRV still turn me off because of many quirky and jarring bordering eye sore causing design oddities . Much like BRV in certain ways
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I think you may have misunderstood my comment earlier.

From commons sense financial perspective, if the distributor has a few brands on their hands, they would logically put in more resources to the brand that give the most margin. For DRB's case, honda will have more money on the table than mitsubishi; as honda brings in more profits than mitsubishi does.

QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 26 2017, 09:01 AM)
Market conditions today are a lot more different than it was back in 2011/2012. Honda and even to some extend, Toyota, has finally started to give their cars more kit and warranty for the asking price. So it's definitely much more competitive now than it was then. Even semi-premium marques like VW has started to price their cars a lot more reasonably (no thanks to all their scandals and fiasco), and if you haven't already noticed - even premium marques like BMW/Mercedes/Volvo have even started to sell their entry level sedans at 160k to 170k marque, which may entice some of the buyers from the 140k-150k market.

Saw some photos of the new CX5 - it looks good but more like an evolution of the current design. Agree that the new CRV looks funny in some ways but one of its trump cards is the new Earth Dreams 1.5TC engine which Mazda has no counter for. Whether or not this makes a difference in sales figures is anyone's guess but for those of us who have been so used to the turbo kick, going back to NA will be somewhat of a challenge.

In the end, I think it depends on the pricing. Have you taken a look at the Mazda cars pricing?

Mazda 2 - kind of priced out of the City/Vios/Almera/Attrage war
CX3 - a little priced out against the HRV and 2008?, looks to compete against the new T-Roc
CX5 - competitive against CRV, X-trail
Mazda 3 - competitive against Civic, Altis, Jetta, 408?
Mazda 6 - completely priced out of competition against all its rivals - conti or otherwise

If the new CX5 continues the same pricing policy as the old CX5 while still giving good kit, it should be able to limit the impact of the new CRV. Difficult to say if they will maintain the sales lead but at least it will be a neck to neck battle.

The Xpander has a good chance of succeeding. Design looks good, Equipment looks decent - so it comes down to how they will price it in Malaysia. But Mitsubishi may find themselves facing the same profit margin issue that I and wkc5657 have discussed a week or 2 back. Do they go for market share while trying to survive on razor thin margins or go for better profits with the risk of pricing themselves out of the competition. This is also a problem that is facing the Kia Optima GT as well.
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Unlike what our "resident marketer" which likes to simplify so much about marketing strategies, marketing and customer acquisition itself is pretty subjective topic itself that there are no clear cut answers. Because, it is not possible to know clearly what millions of perspective customer actually wants. Yes, there are tools. Surveys and big data able to obtain a pattern but those are past information. So marketers need to balance 3 sides, what the current information is telling, how will these factors/preferences evolve in the future or want to create a new pie (example would be the coompact crossover craze now, which in the past only suzuki is the best of it).

Another thing to consider is the factor of brand lock in for more conservative markets like us. So since toyota/honda did the groundwork long ago, and they didn't have any major hiccups along the way, coupled with the long history and establishment, the branding pretty much is stamped inside the minds of consumers. I guess this pretty much contributes to perodua's success as they are pretty much a cheapified toyota. Nissan, despite also having similar long establishment here in our market, the major stumbling is the lack of product excitement. New generation models come few and far between and i also presume that maybe japan nissan is not willing to let tan chong assemble more models. Something like the qashqai would be a nice perk to ride the crossover wave and a little perk up to nissan here.

With such a small and maturing TIV, coupled with a very moderate income growth of malaysian (we're generally still in the middle income trap scenario), eating up another players pie (especially the big ones) will require a lot of resources and time to be put in. And with such a rigid brand lock in, are the resources poured in worth the additional market share gained? Incumbents like toyota and honda can do it easily and any additional resources put in can easier translate to consumer lock in. For smaller players, it is a really tall wall to ascend without the help of HQ.

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Just saw the indicative pricing of the upcoming cx5, the sales volume would not be a show stopper, consider good news for mazda if the volume didn't drop dramatically compared to current number alongside the onslaught of CRV. If the facelift was actually done in this extent, it could have maintained excitement for the brand.....

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I think you may have misunderstood my comment earlier.

From commons sense financial perspective, if the distributor has a few brands on their hands, they would logically put in more resources to the brand that give the most margin. For DRB's case, honda will have more money on the table than mitsubishi; as honda brings in more profits than mitsubishi does.
So if Honda gets more money, than shame on them to lose out in service to Mitsubishi which gets lesser money, isn't it?
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I didn't miss anything because much of what you are saying won't bear fruit many years from today and isn't directly affecting our market. So there really isn't a whole lot to talk about.
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Some fruits is already here.

http://www.tflcar.com/2017/02/might-new-na...ompacts-review/

Not here Malaysia here but here in the world. That was Europe, then there is US, sooner or later something may be Asia bound
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So if Honda gets more money, than shame on them to lose out in service to Mitsubishi which gets lesser money, isn't it?
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True, but still people flock to them in droves. That's is the power of brand lock in, it totally captured the market for those looking away from national makes. Any corporation would like to be in such a situation, it is easy money. 1 thing honda malaysia did well was to keep the market excited. The best example is the expanding list of trim lines for the city. Even markets with way larger volumes also don't do things like this but this is something unique that was done to our markets to continue keeping the attention of malaysians on honda.

But, by observing the civic fc forum, it does reflect some snobbishness that the final quality touches are just lost to push the car out of the factory. As long as it can drive and no visible defects, and the car is allocated to an eagerly waiting customer, the problem lies with the dealers, no longer at the distributor. Not the best of business ethics but good money. So a hats up actually to the dealers that are responsible to the after sales service for mitsubishi, they are not taking things for granted like what honda is.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 29 2017, 07:37 AM)
If the Xpander launches here and does well, I don't see why the cross wouldn't make its way here. Both the ASX and Outlander are due for replacement (5 years or greater) anyways.

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If the Xpander launches here and does well, I don't see why the cross wouldn't make its way here. Both the ASX and Outlander are due for replacement (5 years or greater) anyways.
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Maybe I haven't been following, but I'm surprised you've never talked about what kind of direction Proton could be heading now that they are owned by Geely.

Will the company finally unleash its potential like Volvo or disappear into obscurity altogether except in Malaysia and other developing markets?
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Maybe I haven't been following, but I'm surprised you've never talked about what kind of direction Proton could be heading now that they are owned by Geely.

Will the company finally unleash its potential like Volvo or disappear into obscurity altogether except in Malaysia and other developing markets?
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Too much noises for this one by various parties: ministers , politicians, and even industrial informants ,/sources inclusive and what I fear most is that it could be like the excitement with the previous JV /Suitors : hangat hangat tahi ayam. So till a particular model come out from this union and has reason to be excited about, I would rather talked about THIS and the new Mazda CX5...


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Seems that Nissan may also launch a small mpv based on the xpander platform?

Both looks equally good and more sporty than BRV

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Taken from keyauto website.

Seems that Nissan may also launch a small mpv based on the xpander platform?

Both looks equally good and more sporty than BRV

I dislike the BRV side profile cos it look awkward
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Yup . That was the rendering and not official picture. speaking of which . This will show up first Oct 2017. Tokyo.

https://www.motor1.com/news/178492/mitsubis...ept-leaked/amp/
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This report said Thailand and Philippines gets Expander Feb next year. Msia again later of the year we hope?
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2nd CKD model from Malaysia Mitsubishi launched

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Taken from keyauto website.

Seems that Nissan may also launch a small mpv based on the xpander platform?

Both looks equally good and more sporty than BRV

I dislike the BRV side profile cos it look awkward
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- Small MPV takes annual prize after barnstorming launch -

TOKYO, Mar 29, 2018 - (JCN Newswire) - The new multipurpose vehicle from Mitsubishi Motors, XPANDER, has been named Car of the Year in Indonesia, the latest recognition of its highly successful launch.

The award was made by Otomotif, the leading Indonesian tabloid, and was collected by Kyoya Kondo, president of PT Mitsubishi Motors Krama Yudha Sales Indonesia (MMKSI), at a ceremony held today. The XPANDER also won in two other categories in Otomotif's 2018 awards - Best of the Best MPV and Best of Small MPV(1).

Since XPANDER's launch last August, dealers at MMKSI have taken 60,000 orders for the class-leading small MPV, which was designed specifically for the needs of the fast-growing Indonesian auto market where MPVs are a popular category. Last month, XPANDER ranked among the top 3 best-selling models in the small MPV segment.

The XPANDER is a small but roomy and comfortable seven-seater MPV with plenty of space for luggage. It combines an attractive and comfortable design with the toughness and reliable performance for which the Mitsubishi brand is renowned.

The vehicle is produced at Mitsubishi Motors' state-of-the-art manufacturing plant in Bekasi Prefecture, West Java, which was inaugurated in April last year by President Joko Widodo. The factory, the result of a $540 million investment, employs 3,000 workers and is capable of producing 160,000 vehicles a year.

The Bekasi plant will shortly begin exporting XPANDER to the Philippines and Thailand, reinforcing Mitsubishi Motors' strong market positions in the ASEAN region.

Osamu Masuko, chief executive of Mitsubishi Motors Corporation, said: "We are very grateful to have received this award from Otomotif, which is a recognition of the wonderful reception that XPANDER has been given by the people of Indonesia. Many people had a hand in this success, including our friends and business partners at MMKSI and the Indonesian government. Years of careful research went into the design of the XPANDER, a modern MPV that meets the needs of Indonesia's hard-working families."

Panji Maulana, chief editor of Otomotif, said: "The Car of the Year is selected from among the winners in each category that have been evaluated from many aspects such as design, features, performance, handling, fuel consumption, price and the latest model. And our editorial judging panel takes into account sales, community engagement and value for money. The Mitsubishi XPANDER is a worthy winner for 2018."

The XPANDER was the first all-new vehicle from Mitsubishi Motors since a strengthened management team at the Japanese automaker embarked on a new growth and recovery strategy. Under the company's Drive for Growth plan, the company is investing more than $5 billion to improve its product line-up, building on its traditional strengths in four-wheel drive, sports utility vehicles and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles.

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Even in Philippines....

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After which it will be launched in Thailand follow by Vietnam.

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A commendable effort by Mitsubishi Malaysia in Sarawak, East Malaysia, rejoice Mitsubishi owners there.

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GOKUL  |  APRIL 26, 2018 12:43 PM
Mitsubishi Motors Introduces Mobile Service Unit For Customers In Rural Areas

Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia (MMM) has introduced the Mitsubishi Mobile Service Unit to serve customers living in rural areas off Kuching, Sarawak. 

“As part of our aftersales business expansion program, the Mitsubishi mobile service unit is to provide greater convenience and assurance for our customers living in rural areas in Sarawak that are far away from authorized Mitsubishi service centres,” said Tomoyuki Shinnishi, Chief Executive Officer of Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia.

The Mitsubishi mobile service unit is capable of servicing up to 10 cars per day and will cover vehicle scheduled maintenance, inspection of vehicle wear and tear, and timing belt replacement.

The mobile unit, which comes equipped with special Mitsubishi Multi Use Tester Diagnostic Scanner, hydraulic jack with stand, air compressor and tool sets, will also carry spare parts such as oil filter and lubricants and its own generator for power supply.

The Mitsubishi mobile service unit will be operated by certified Mitsubishi authorized service dealers EON Auto Mart and Jimisar Autotrade in Kuching, and will be traveling as far as 150km radius away from Kuching to towns such as Sematan, Lundu, Bau, Serian and Simunjan. 

“This is Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia’s first mobile service truck and customers shall see more of these mobile units in the near future as we are encouraging our authorized Mitsubishi dealers with fleet and rural customer base to embark on this effort to service our customers better,” added Shinnishi.


Customers in Sarawak who are interested in obtaining services by the Mitsubishi mobile service unit truck can schedule an appointment with Mitsubishi authorized dealers:

EON Auto Mart, Kuching
Jimisar Autotrade, Kuching
Alternatively, customers may also contact Mitsubishi’s Motors Customer Careline at 1800 18 8161, 9 am – 5 pm, Mondays to Fridays.

Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia is currently represented by 54 showrooms (out of which 47 are 3S Centres) and 53 service outlets throughout Malaysia.  In East Malaysia, MMM is represented by 14 showrooms (6 in Sarawak and 8 in Sabah).






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Industry Minister Airlangga Hartarto has praised Mitsubishi Motors Krama Yudha Indonesia for exporting 21,000 Xpander multipurpose vehicles (MPVs) to the Philippines.

“The improvement in the automotive sector will greatly affect the country’s economic activities in other sectors,” said the minister on Thursday as reported by kompas.com

Mitsubishi began exporting Thursday Xpander vehicles to the Philippines. In its initial step, the carmaker sent 400 of the 21,000 cars ordered for 2018. Mitsubishi set a target to export 30,000 Xpander MPVs to the country.

The carmaker also plans to export the MPVs to Thailand (6,000 cars), Vietnam (1,000), African countries (1,000), Middle Eastern countries ( 500 ) and South American countries ( 500 )  ...
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http://www.en.netralnews.com/news/business...subishi.xpander

Really wonder if Eclipse Cross is only meant for Brunei & Singapore and Xpander is focus- exported to only Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines from Indonesia, Malaysia gets what then? Habuk?


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i'm waiting xpander to come to malaysia.
will it come here?
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Alliance partners will share training facilities and warehouses

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Mitsubishi Motors' Xpander, popular in Southeast Asia, will be supplied to Nissan as well. (Photo by Rei Nakafuji)
TOKYO -- Nissan Motor will look to capitalize on affiliated automaker Mitsubishi Motors' strength in Southeast Asia as part of a broader collaboration that eventually leverages the three-way alliance with French partner Renault.

Mitsubishi Motors sold about 280,000 vehicles in Southeast Asia last fiscal year, more than Nissan or Renault.

Nissan became Mitsubishi Motors' top shareholder in 2016, taking a 34% stake, in the aftermath of a fuel economy falsification scandal. Mitsubishi Motors will soon open training facilities at a Philippine factory for instructing dealerships' service technicians and sales clerks. Nissan will gain access starting in August. In August of next year, the two automakers will set up joint warehouse facilities to store service parts and other materials.

The companies already collaborate on transporting assembled vehicles from factories to dealerships in Thailand and will start similar arrangements in Indonesia and the Philippines. They will begin using each other's test-drive courses in Thailand this month.

Beginning in 2019, Mitsubishi Motors will supply its popular Indonesia-built Xpander minivan to Nissan. The vehicle will be sold as a different model under the Nissan brand.

At home in Japan, Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors plan to develop electric minicars together for release in the early 2020s. The carmakers were operating a minivehicle joint venture even before Nissan became the top shareholder in its peer.

Nissan and Renault, whose alliance dates back to 1999, have consolidated many operations, including research and development, production technologies, logistics, purchasing and personnel management. Last month, they began to merge their quality control, customer management and after-sale services. Mitsubishi Motors will join this framework as well.

Carlos Ghosn, the chief of the three-way alliance, showed strong interest in Southeast Asian collaboration, as well as joint development of minicar technologies, when Nissan was buying the Mitsubishi Motors stake. He apparently has decided that Mitsubishi Motors is now strong enough to contribute.
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Launching Thailand
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It will be very stupid if they dont bring it here.
Im waiting for this one too.
Either this or the new perodua suv which will be 7 seater

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Mitsubishi Xpander Aims For Honda BR-V, But 2018 Malaysian Launch Unlikely
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HANS  |  AUGUST 24, 2018 05:45 PM
Mitsubishi Xpander Aims For Honda BR-V, But 2018 Malaysian Launch Unlikely

Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia (MMM) is poised to make an entry into the entry-level MPV market with the seven-seater Xpander. Currently on sale in Indonesia, Thailand and soon the Philippines, the 1.5-litre is aimed squarely at the Honda BR-V and Toyota Avanza. Its front-wheel drive layout and SUV-like styling however, puts it closer to the BR-V than the rear-wheel drive Avanza.

With the discontinuation of the Lancer, Mirage and Attrage from the local line-up, MMM’s current product line-up consists only of crossovers/SUVs and pick-up trucks. It could do well with a sub-RM100,000 three-row seat family car.



In response to a query by Carlist.my with regards to the prospects of the Xpander for the Malaysia, Mr. Hoffen Teh, Senior Vice-President of Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia said that discussions between MMM and MMC (Mitsubishi Motors Corporation) are on-going but stopped short of committing to a specific launch timing.

“MMM/MMC are proactively considering to introduce the Mitsubishi Xpander in the Malaysian market. We are now studying the feasibility to launch this model in Malaysia and will share further detail when our plan materialized,” said Teh.

Judging by the chatter in the market space, a launch within this year is very unlikely.



Sourcing arrangement is certainly a point of discussion. Mitsubishi Motors’ plant in Indonesia is currently the only source for the Xpander, supplying to Thailand as well as the Philippines. However Malaysia’s tax structure has provisions favouring locally-assembled vehicles.

MMM currently assembles two models – ASX and Outlander - at its contract assembly partner Tan Chong Motor Assemblies’ plant in Segambut. The Triton is imported from Thailand, as it has enough locally/regionally-sourced components to qualify for waiver of import duties under ASEAN Free Trade Agreement (AFTA). It is unclear if MMM will be importing the Xpander from Indonesia under AFTA or assembling it locally, although we think the former is more likely.



Separately, MMC have also confirmed that it will, at a later stage be producing a Nissan-badged version of the Xpander at its Indonesian plant. No details have been released by Nissan yet but it’s certain that both models will be mechanically similar, differentiated only by its front-end styling, with the Nissan version adopting an X-Trail-like front-end.

The Nissan-badged Xpander will replace Nissan’s aging Grand Livina, and the all-new Mitsubishi-developed model will certainly be introduced by Edaran Tan Chong Motor (ETCM) in Malaysia later, after the Mitsubishi Xpander’s local debut. 

While both MMM and ETCM are fierce rivals in the local market space, Mitsubishi Motors and Nissan are part of the same Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Motors Alliance.   



The Mitsubishi Xpander is powered by a 4A91 1.5-litre naturally aspirated four-cylinder MIVEC petrol engine that makes 104 PS and 141 Nm, paired to a four-speed automatic transmission driving the front wheels.

Safety is adequate by the segment’s basic standards, but it matches everything the BR-V offers – two airbags in front with electronic stability control and hill-start assist. It has a 4-star ASEAN NCAP rating. The Honda BR-V had a 5-star rating but that was done under an earlier, less stringent scoring format.


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if they bring here and the price is same like on thailand, i will be very sad.
thats why they still make research whether they want bring it as mitsu xpander or nissan xpander.
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The discussion was not never about brand power , it was about the service level of one brand which was consistently good (Top 3) and another which has declined dramatically.

Just look at the last 3 years JD power customer service index surveys and look at Mitsubishi and Honda and tell me what you see.

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still waiting for xpander to come to malaysia.
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or will it come to malaysia as nissan car?

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still waiting for xpander to come to malaysia.
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Come as Nissan. I hope not serviced at Nissan only.
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Come as Nissan. I hope not serviced at Nissan only.
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All-New Mitsubishi XPANDER makes a new reservation-for-purchase record with 3,000 units by end of August 2018 in Thailand....
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this will come as a replacement for livina iinm. the current gen is based on ageing latio
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Expander? Looks like exactly like Peugeot 3008 / 5008 combined together.
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Toyota Rush beat Mitsubishi Xpander in launching Malaysia ?
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All-New Toyota Rush To Be Launched In Malaysia Soon

It seems that the all-new Toyota Rush is heading for launch in Malaysia within a month or two. We have seen postings (by Toyota dealers) of sales booking materials in the social media space for the all-new Toyota Rush, only to be removed the following day or two.

A quick glance at the specifications and features reveal the all-new Toyota Rush bound for Malaysia will share many of the features seen in the Indonesian, Thai, and South African markets.

However, a few items caught our eyes. On top of the six airbags, ISOFIX anchor points, and Electronic Stability Control (ESC), additional safety features listed by local dealers include:

Forward Collision Warning (FCW) with Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) (Similar to new Myvi?)
Panoramic view camera (360-degree)
Blind spot monitor (BSM) and rear cross traffic alert (RCTA)


ASEAN NCAP has also awarded the all-new Toyota Rush with a 5-star rating, thanks to the fitment of ESC and rear seatbelt reminders (second and third rows), on top of a good performance in the usual crash testing.

Other key features listed by the dealers include:

LED head lamps and tail lamps
17-inch wheels and tyres (215/60 R17)
Automatic air-conditioning with rear air-conditioning
7-inch infotainment with MirrorLink
Smart Entry with Push start button
To recap, the all-new Toyota Rush is powered by a 1.5-litre 2NR-VE Dual VVT-I four-cylinder petrol engine (105 PS, 136 Nm) that is paired to either a four-speed automatic or five-speed manual. The all-new Toyota Rush continues to drive the rear wheels, suspended by a 5-link design and now fitted with a stabilizer bar. 

In Indonesia, the largest market for the Toyota Rush, the vehicle is made by Astra Daihatsu Motor Co. Ltd (ADM), which also makes Daihatsu Terios. A similar arrangement with Perodua can be expected, as back in 2005, Perodua did assemble the Toyota Avanza (Daihatsu Xenia) for UMW Toyota.


Note the only different items on the Daihatsu Terios is the grille and alloy wheel design

Does this mean Perodua will get to locally assemble a Daihatsu-based SUV for themselves, while at the same time providing UMW Toyota with a fully built-up Toyota Rush? The Malaysian automotive space in this last quarter of 2018 is certainly going to be filled with plenty of news on SUV models (Proton X70, Toyota Rush, Perodua SUV).


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The Mitsubishi XPANDER has added yet more awards to its growing collection of titles. It has now been named as the 2018 FORWOT Car of the Year in Indonesia, the second time it has been named Car of the Year

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The Mitsubishi XPANDER has added yet more awards to its growing collection of titles. It has now been named as the 2018 FORWOT Car of the Year in Indonesia, the second time it has been named Car of the Year.

Earlier this year the XPANDER was awarded as Car of the Year by OTOMOTIF Tabloid and was today named the Best Low MPV(1) as well as Favorite Car by reader survey from Gridoto.com. In total, the XPANDER has obtained nine major awards since it was launched.

FORWOT Car of the Year is an event held by the Automotive Journalists Forum (FORWOT). At the 2018 awards, the Mitsubishi XPANDER outperformed its competitors from various brands, classes and types.

Before being selected as FORWOT Car of the Year 2018, the XPANDER had undergone rigorous judging which consisted of several stages. In the initial phase, around 60 FORWOT members from various national media (print and online) voted and the XPANDER reached the top five shortlist.

Then in the second stage, FORWOT asked 33 selected journalists to provide an assessment based on the criteria from the Car of the Year Committee – www.caroftheyear.org – with adjustments made for the Indonesian market and conditions.

The final judging result showed that the Mitsubishi XPANDER won 216 points, 56 points ahead of its closest competitor.

The Award was handed over by Indra Prabowo, FORWOT Chairman, to Bambang Kristiawan – Head of PR & CSR Department, Mitsubishi Motors Krama Yudha Sales Indonesia (MMKSI), the local distributor.

For the latest two awards, the XPANDER has now been voted Favorite Car by Survey by readers of Gridoto.com,. The XPANDER was also awarded Best Low MPV by Gridoto’s expert judges, thanks to its high-end features, comfort, value for money, fun to drive and attractive design.

Commenting on the wins, Naoya Nakamura President Director of MMKSI said: “We are incredibly proud that the Mitsubishi XPANDER has been recognised again and again with awards. MMKSI strives to provide the best products and services for the satisfaction of consumers and the success of the XPANDER is proof that our hard work is being rewarded.”

Awards received by XPANDER

1. Favorite Car by Survey, Gridoto Award 2018
2. Best Low MPV, Gridoto Award 2018
3. Car of The Year, FORWOT Car of The Year 2018
4. Car of The Year, Otomotif Awards 2018
5. Carvaganza Editor’s Choice Award 2018
6. Best of The Best MPV, Otomotif Awards 2018
7. Best Low MPV, Otomotif Awards 2018
8. New Kid on The Road of The Year, ICar Asia People’s choice Awards 2017
9. 1st Winner Favorite Car, GIIAS 2017

(1) Best Low MPV: Best Small MPV
Picking up multiple awards , one more then it will be the 10th
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I really hope they come to Malaysia as Mitsibishi instead of Nissan. The design so futuristic and value for money. Probably the best value for money in it classes.

I was planning to buy proton ertiga, but proton ertiga in Malaysia was kinda outdated, it was 2016 batch. Plus proton now with Geely.

Even it come as Nissan, I hope they don't change anything except for logos. Let see how next year progress
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I really hope they come to Malaysia as Mitsibishi instead of Nissan. The design so futuristic and value for money. Probably the best value for money in it classes.

I was planning to buy proton ertiga, but proton ertiga in Malaysia was kinda outdated, it was 2016 batch. Plus proton now with Geely.

Even it come as Nissan, I hope they don't change anything except for logos. Let see how next year progress
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The only turn off for xpander and brv is the only 2 airbag. Rush 6 airbag and upcoming perodua suv most probably comes with 6 airbag also.
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i'm really look forward for this model
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faster launch the xpander.

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https://pandulaju.com.my/mitsubishi-xpander...ia-tahun-depan/
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Nov 10 2018, 10:52 PM)
https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/mitsubishi/xpander

RM78,968
Expected Launch Date: Dis, 2018

Biar Betul
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 12 2018, 06:56 AM)
https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/mitsubishi/xpander

RM78,968
Expected Launch Date: Dis, 2018

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i also monitor that zigwheels, before this their website state launch date is Sep, 2018. Then they change it to Dis,2018.
Hope that price is for full spec. brows.gif
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jadi keluar ke tak ni.
soo late laa
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Jul 7 2019, 12:57 AM)
jadi keluar ke tak ni.
soo late laa
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https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/mitsubishi/xpander

September 2019
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this xpander seems spacious with a wheelbase that exceed my current alza, hope it will come with cruise control and 6 air bags, i should go to mitsubishi show room now and pressure them to launch this car
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QUOTE(legioss @ Jul 7 2019, 02:58 PM)
this xpander seems spacious with a wheelbase that exceed my current alza, hope it will come with cruise control and 6 air bags, i should go to mitsubishi show room now and pressure them to launch this car
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https://careta.my/article/q1-2019-mitsubish...ras-di-thailand

Judging from how they have specified Expander in Thailand, I am more optimistic about the cruise control but not the 6 airbag...But I hope Mitsubishi Motor Malaysia will prove me wrong.

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Yeah, i don't see 6 air bags in Philippines and Indonesia too. I also hope Proton or someone else will bring in the latest Ertiga as a good alternative.
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Went to Big C Satun. Got Xpander car display there. Price between 789,000 to 859,000 Baht (RM 106,122.50 to 115,537.68)


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there are so much video on modding the xpander.
can plug and play pajero steering and unlocked the cruisecontrol.
mod it become mini velfire
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When Toyota invest into GRAB, Mitsubishi invest into GOJEK.

Salute to Mitsubishi. Fighting Toyota better than Nissan ever has.

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got group at fb their member post that maybe will be launch q3 2020. lulz.
waiting game is turn back on?
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Jul 9 2019, 10:17 PM)
got group at fb their member post that maybe will be launch q3 2020. lulz.
waiting game is turn back on?
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Confirmed already, it will be released in q1 2021.....but by nissan though
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Jul 10 2019, 01:16 AM)
Confirmed already, it will be released in q1 2021.....but by nissan though
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welp, im prefer from mitsu tho. more garang.
but 2021 isss..... bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Jul 9 2019, 10:17 PM)
got group at fb their member post that maybe will be launch q3 2020. lulz.
waiting game is turn back on?
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If it is delayed , I must say it could very well be the case.

Look at what else Indonesia gets from Mitsubishi before Malaysia

Not one but two

https://www.otomotif.kompas.com/read/2019/0...outlander-phev-

Eclipse Cross.....Which was sold in USA no less.

And adding to our further injury, a first ever PHEV SUV from.Japan, no less.
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https://thenewswheel.com/mitsubishi-motors-empowers-women/

Once in awhile. We learn something new in a Masochistic society of Japan. A round of applause for Mitsubishi Motor

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https://europe.autonews.com/move/mitsubishi...ope-design-boss

Well the design for future looks more European then. Pun intended.
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somehow the livina and xpander has the same wheel base measurement, is it coincidence or both cars share the same platform?
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QUOTE(legioss @ Jul 15 2019, 06:35 PM)
somehow the livina and xpander has the same wheel base measurement, is it coincidence or both cars share the same platform?
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the new livina is basically a rebadged xpander.
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No wonder it take so long for Mitsu to bring in the xpander, probably negotiating with TC on which to bring in and their assembly plant has limited capacity
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Which idiot decide to bring in the xpander as a nissan livina instead?
Adoi tc and mmc if u read this thread, we want xpander outlook, not the livina!!!

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https://www.motor1.com/news/381735/mitsubis...cross-revealed/

The taller and wider and more rugged Xpander Cross

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Which idiot decide to bring in the xpander as a nissan livina instead?
Adoi tc and mmc if u read this thread, we want xpander outlook, not the livina!!!
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it will arrive next year iiinm.
new plant setup at Pekan currently. Direct from Mitsu. Not from Lousy Tan Chong
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it will arrive next year iiinm.
new plant setup at Pekan currently. Direct from Mitsu. Not from Lousy Tan Chong
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imma waiting for it
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https://www.carmudi.co.id/journal/tak-cuma-...it-di-malaysia/

After Vietnam , Malaysia produced .....News source from Indonesia.... Hooray?
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 12 2018, 06:56 AM)
https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/mitsubishi/xpander

RM78,968
Expected Launch Date: Dis, 2018

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i also monitor that zigwheels, before this their website state launch date is Sep, 2018. Then they change it to Dis,2018.
Hope that price is for full spec. brows.gif
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jul 7 2019, 01:48 AM)
https://www.zigwheels.my/new-cars/mitsubishi/xpander

Date change to Jan 2020...LOL
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Dec 7 2019, 11:02 AM)
https://www.careta.my/article/xpander-malay...ku-pertama-2020

said that it will be launch first quarter 2020 with CKD.
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Dec 7 2019, 11:25 AM)
https://www.careta.my/article/xpander-malay...ku-pertama-2020

said that it will be launch first quarter 2020 with CKD.
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So long that it is 2020....It is good news already.....Thanks for sharing

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So long that it is 2020....It is good news already.....Thanks for sharing
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if next month they launch it which is january 2020, it will be good. biggrin.gif
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New face....Not bad
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 27 2020, 10:31 AM)
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New face....Not bad
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5-10 years later will come to malaysia.
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Don't know if this will ever be launched in Malaysia.
First heard about it in 2018 and was interested but then delay and delay.
Can't wait anymore and bought the Aruz.
I think they are hesitant to launch it here because they know they can never compete with the price of Aruz.
Most of our neighbouring countries already have this. Was supposed to launch in Malaysia in 2018 before Thailand but then the plan was discarded for some reason.
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QUOTE(ron c @ Feb 27 2020, 05:53 PM)
Don't know if this will ever be launched in Malaysia.
First heard about it in 2018 and was interested but then delay and delay.
Can't wait anymore and bought the Aruz.
I think they are hesitant to launch it here because they know they can never compete with the price of Aruz.
Most of our neighbouring countries already have this. Was supposed to launch in Malaysia in 2018 before Thailand but then the plan was discarded for some reason.
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will be launch this year this mid 2020 around july iinm
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Feb 28 2020, 03:34 AM)
will be launch this year this mid 2020 around july iinm
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Not first quarter ?

https://careta.my/article/xpander-malaysia-...ku-pertama-2020

Pasang by DRB hicom at Pekan Pahang accordingly to "sos" careta.

Hopefully good things come to those who wait patiently.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 28 2020, 07:50 AM)
Not first quarter ?

https://careta.my/article/xpander-malaysia-...ku-pertama-2020

Pasang by DRB hicom at Pekan Pahang accordingly to "sos" careta.

Hopefully good things come to those who wait patiently.
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mostly mitsu punya car sales said june or july.
if can come earlier, will be good then. biggrin.gif
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will be launch this year this mid 2020 around july iinm
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Haha, for me it doesn't make a difference whether it will be launched here because I have already bought the Aruz.
Was hoping the Xpander will include a manual variant because the Aruz does not.
I have always preferred driving a manual car, especially when they are underpowered.

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Meanwhile the spot light is on Triton

https://www.thesundaily.my/gear-up/mitsubis...nuary-LK2059368
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https://pandulaju.com.my/spyshot-mitsubishi...ncar-tahun-ini/

Xpander will be launch tak lama lagi?
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This is like a recurring dream....One that no one seemed to be able to wake up from .
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This is like a recurring dream....One that no one seemed to be able to wake up from .
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ya lo. 3 years waiting for the car to come out.
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Well, it will come otherwise what else is up their sleeves? x Cross?

If nothing new is coming soon, Mitsubishi Motor can't be doing their part as the designated South East Asian region leader under the Renault Nissan Alliance.



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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Jul 16 2020, 06:42 PM)
like i said before...currently they are assembling this car at Pekan...might have delay due to covid
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Mitsu saleslady hinted launch in Oct but delivery most likely 2021
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name changed or not?
if not would be mitsu spender here
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MITSUBISHI MOTORS CORPORATION today introduced the all-new crossover XPANDER CROSS in Vietnam, following the launches in Indonesia in November 2019, as well as in the Philippines and Thailand in March 2020


https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releas...oss-in-vietnam/

Vietnam before Malaysia . Malaysia truly boleh
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Honda quality like shit nowadays, bring it on
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https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releas...oss-in-vietnam/

Vietnam before Malaysia . Malaysia truly boleh
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This is the Cross, we haven't even receive the base Xpander doh.gif
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I just quoted the scuff plate for Xpander about a month ago, so I think they're still trying to figure out what extra accessories to put in.

It's just 200 sets one off order though...
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maybe 200 is their target for the first batch.
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https://www.nst.com.my/business/2020/07/608...rket-rebound-2h

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...Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd (HLIB) said attractive new model launches by original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) would continue to grab higher market share this year.


The firm said the likes of Proton, Perodua, Honda and Mitsubishi were expected to launch new models including locally-assembled Proton X70 and X50, Perodua Bezza and D55L sport utility vehicle, the new Honda BRV, City, CR-V, Accord and Civic, Nissan Almera and Mitsubishi Xpander.


Looks like it is going to happen but when others also launching new models....Going to be tough, I reckon.

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https://www.carlist.my/news/mitsubishi-xpan...er-79823/79823/

Yes..2020..But not confirmg the DD/mm
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CARS BIKES TRUCKS
Xpanding to you: The New Mitsubishi XPANDER
By Cars Bikes and Trucks
July 28, 2020 @ 5:40pm

The Mitsubishi XPANDER was recently launched in Indonesia and won multiple awards in Asean countries, including “2018 Car of the Year” by Otomotif Awards 2018 in Indonesia; ”Philippines 2019 Automobile of the Year in the Standard Category” by Auto Focus People’s Choice Awards; and “Thailand Car of the Year 2019 and 2020: THE BEST MPV UNDER 1,600 c.c.” by Grand Prix International PLC.

The Mitsubishi XPANDER was recently launched in Indonesia and won multiple awards in Asean countries, including “2018 Car of the Year” by Otomotif Awards 2018 in Indonesia; ”Philippines 2019 Automobile of the Year in the Standard Category” by Auto Focus People’s Choice Awards; and “Thailand Car of the Year 2019 and 2020: THE BEST MPV UNDER 1,600 c.c.” by Grand Prix International PLC.

KUALA LUMPUR: Bringing additional competition to the already-heated sports utility vehicle (SUV) and crossover segment, the new seven-seater crossover Mitsubishi XPANDER will make its way to local shores soon as part of its Asean roll-out plan.

It was recently launched in Indonesia and won multiple awards in Asean countries, including "2018 Car of the Year" by Otomotif Awards 2018 in Indonesia; "Philippines 2019 Automobile of the Year in the Standard Category" by Auto Focus People's Choice Awards; and "Thailand Car of the Year 2019 and 2020: THE BEST MPV UNDER 1,600 c.c." by Grand Prix International PLC.


"The XPANDER is not just an important model for MMM, but across the Asean region as well. As of June 2020, the car has reached cumulative sales of around 256,000 units. The success of the XPANDER in our neighbouring countries such as Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam reflects how well-suited this car is to meet the needs of Malaysian customers," said Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia (MMM) chief executive officer Tomoyuki Shinnishi.

"MMM is very excited for a thrilling year ahead with the introduction of this impressive seven-seater crossover in Malaysia later this year."

The XPANDER incorporates a 'Dynamic Shield' front design concept, said to be found in all newly-launched Mitsubishi cars, which thematically express high performance and protection for the driver and passengers.


Recently ? LOL
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errr i feel hit and miss lo. on paper it is quite big, but power lebih kurang aruz pulak lol

that said, it totally sapu the brv in thailand, selling 4x as much lol

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that is expected for this price range.
More power means u need to splurge more money.
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it reminds me of Avanza..

at least brv has hat suv look.. this xpander looks like a small mpv to me
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QUOTE(cangkui @ Aug 5 2020, 11:28 AM)
it reminds me of Avanza..

at least brv has hat suv look.. this xpander looks like a small mpv to me
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you don't see this sort of potential with Avanza and BRV

https://drivetribe.com/p/this-mitsubishi-xp...US0KWwgR2cvvVJA
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 7 2020, 11:20 PM)
you don't see this sort of potential with Avanza and BRV

https://drivetribe.com/p/this-mitsubishi-xp...US0KWwgR2cvvVJA
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damn it looks so nice , i mean xpander rally version
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 7 2020, 11:20 PM)
you don't see this sort of potential with Avanza and BRV

https://drivetribe.com/p/this-mitsubishi-xp...US0KWwgR2cvvVJA
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I beg to differ bro.. still avanza lookalike to me
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Xpander cross look more garang
Taller
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I waited more than 2 years. Now settled with used Honda Stream 2011.
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Aug 13 2020, 03:03 PM)
Xpander cross look more garang
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solid too flex.gif
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Aug 13 2020, 03:03 PM)
Xpander cross look more garang
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solid too  flex.gif
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https://www.kosmo.com.my/2020/08/08/penampi...ubishi-xpander/

Garang it is

Kosmo also said so
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 15 2020, 02:07 PM)
yes thinking to get one soon devil.gif
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rumors said only come with 1 variant.
better wait and see. can mod using pajero steering brows.gif
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still waiting for their iklan.
honda city new sudah keluar.
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Aug 26 2020, 08:59 AM)
still waiting for their iklan.
honda city new sudah keluar.
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Look like Xpander has already outsold below in 2019 in South East Asia

Avanza
Vios
Rush
MyVi
City
HRV
Axis
Mazda 2
Jazz
Bezza
Saga
Almera
Lastly BRV


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post Sep 8 2020, 06:14 PM

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https://www.carlist.my/news/mitsubishi-xpan...ng-80307/80307/

That kind of explain why the delay. It is going to be CKD folks at new Pekan plant. Pricing matters.

Make sense....

https://www.dsf.my/2020/08/xpander-ckd-or-cbu/

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Not many competitor in this segment
Rush Aruz is a boat
Brz cramp
Exora too old
Avanza no esc


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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 8 2020, 06:24 PM)
Not many competitor in this segment
Rush Aruz is a boat
Brz cramp
Exora too old
Avanza no esc
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Alza is aging .
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QUOTE(ssmui @ Sep 8 2020, 06:58 PM)
Alza is aging .
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alza disqualified. not 7 seater is only 4+2 and no ESC

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Hello,

I booked Xpander yesterday 😁
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:03 AM)
Hello,

I booked Xpander yesterday 😁
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Pricing how?


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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:03 AM)
Hello,

I booked Xpander yesterday 😁
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Congratulations. Tell us why , what attracts you to book one?
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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:18 AM)
Pricing how?
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No price disclosed yet
Just in case if price is ok then I'm not worrying put in queue list
Unless if price is not my liking, i just cancelled
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post Sep 9 2020, 09:37 AM

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Mitsubishi is definitely trying to inject a lot of Delica design into this Xpander, hopefully will have more Delica DNA as well.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Sep 9 2020, 09:19 AM)
Congratulations. Tell us why , what attracts you to book one?
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I need MPV as my family of 5 grow taller 😆

1. Dimesion is slight bigger than BRV
2. A bit taller. Suite me when balik kampung. Kampung road not good
3. Seat folding really good. Unlike BRV, 3rd seat can fold flat (based on indonesian review. At Mid Valley only can preview outside)
4. When preview the car, i can see that it's rear black absorber really huge in diameter. Some say it taken from Evo X suspension. Must be good handling uneven road

For interior, need to wait MMC fully launch in November. Can't rely so much on outside review. Must feel it in person

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:41 AM)
I need MPV as my family of 5 grow taller 😆

1. Dimesion is slight bigger than BRV
2. A bit taller. Suite me when balik kampung. Kampung road not good
3. Seat folding really good. Unlike BRV, 3rd seat can fold flat (based on indonesian review. At Mid Valley only can preview outside)
4. When preview the car, i can see that it's rear black absorber really huge in diameter. Some say it taken from Evo X suspension. Must be good handling uneven road

For interior, need to wait MMC fully launch in November. Can't rely so much on outside review. Must feel it in person
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What's your take if were to compare to Aruz/Rush?
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QUOTE(loutze @ Sep 9 2020, 09:48 AM)
What's your take if were to compare to Aruz/Rush?
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1. Aruz taller. I'm afraid my parent having hard time climbing it
2. Boots not my liking
3. Seat not flat when folded. Not my liking too

Truly, i never test drive Aruz. But i have sit in before at showroom
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 9 2020, 09:41 AM)
I need MPV as my family of 5 grow taller 😆

1. Dimesion is slight bigger than BRV
2. A bit taller. Suite me when balik kampung. Kampung road not good
3. Seat folding really good. Unlike BRV, 3rd seat can fold flat (based on indonesian review. At Mid Valley only can preview outside)
4. When preview the car, i can see that it's rear black absorber really huge in diameter. Some say it taken from Evo X suspension. Must be good handling uneven road

For interior, need to wait MMC fully launch in November. Can't rely so much on outside review. Must feel it in person
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Thanks for this input. Good choice I would believe
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Nazim A. Rahim

Ramai yg minta review, jadi saya kongsi sikit pengalaman saya pakai hampir 1 tahun.
Pro:
1. Jimat minyak. Fuel consumption lebih kurang Myvi 1.5SE (sebab kat sini saya pakai myvi ni).
2. Feature dalaman yg modern dan sgt selesa. Ruang dalam luas hampir sama dgn innova. Avanza lagi kecik (sebab saya ada avanza kat sini so mmg terasa beza)
3. Handling yg superb, stereng response yg ringan.
4. Suspension mmg sedap, langgar bumper atau line kuning tak terasa bergegar mcm kereta europe.
5. Aftersales Mitsubishi sana yg baik. Free maintenance 3 tahun.
6. Spareparts dan aftermarket parts/aksesori yg bnyk dan murah sebab kilang di sana.
7. Dilengkapi dgn double blower kat belakang.
8. 7+1 seater. Ruang kaki utk 3rd row masih saya boleh duduk dgn selesa utk tinggi saya 179cm.
9. Compartment yg bnyk. Setiap row ada autochoke (utk charge alat elektronik).
10. Dah soundproof dari kilang dan dah siap tinted 70%.
Sebelum beli, saya ada buat perbandingan dan test beberapa model lain spt Suzuki Ertiga, Honda Mobilio (BRV), Toyota Veloz (Avanza High Spec), Innova, nissan livina. Xpander overall lebih baik.
Cons:
1. Tak ada reverse sensor apa lagi reverse camera (cuma model ultimate dan cross saja ada). Saya punya model Sports.
2. Head unit masih yg biasa. Patutnya kenderaan modern dah ada multimedia head unit.
3. Untuk cermin belakang masih takde heater utk nyahkabus bila hujan. Cuma ada wiper belakang saja.
Bulan 4 Mitsubishi Indonesia umumkan semua owner Xpander utk tukar fuel pump (free) sebab bnyk kes fuel pump model sebelumnya problem. Kes suspension pula bnyk kes terpencil.
Utk harga jual balik, di sana masih tinggi sebab sejak Xpander diperkenalkan kat pasaran sana, model ni jadi MPV terlaris 3 tahun berturut2.

From FB group xpander : https://www.facebook.com/groups/94708666897...218875491800690

This one is before facelift model. The first model.
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one question - do we have to physically receive the car by end of 2020 to qualified for the free SST? not sure when is the launching and the waiting period.

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Sep 10 2020, 10:01 AM)
one question - do we have to physically receive the car by end of 2020 to qualified for the free SST? not sure when is the launching and the waiting period.
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some say launching november because give x50 launch first on october.
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As confirm by salesman, it's in November
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QUOTE(ssmui @ Sep 8 2020, 06:58 PM)
Alza is aging .
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