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> Can Mitsubishi Xpander topple Honda BRV in 2018?

Expander to beat BRV?
 
1. Yes, the force is strong with this one [ 125 ] ** [56.82%]
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amad108
post Nov 7 2020, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Nov 5 2020, 06:28 PM)
yup. the price is to compete with other car on the same class eg: brv
the price is without tax.
if with tax will be around brv price 96k
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rm91k with 2 airbag and 4AT gbx.. hermm..
while almera similar price with better safety features and good fuel consumption
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post Nov 7 2020, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Nov 7 2020, 01:45 AM)
rm91k with 2 airbag and 4AT gbx.. hermm..
while almera similar price with better safety features and good fuel consumption
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xpander selling point should be their size and 7 seater mpv.
their evo suspension system.
the 3rd row is big enough for adult person to seat.
if want better safety features within same class, buy rush.
for more cheaper buy aruz.

almera is a good car with cheap roadtax brows.gif

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post Nov 7 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Nov 7 2020, 01:45 AM)
rm91k with 2 airbag and 4AT gbx.. hermm..
while almera similar price with better safety features and good fuel consumption
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Yeah 2 air bag is a big turn off...4AT is not ideal but many can live with that since this is a people Carrier
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post Nov 7 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 7 2020, 10:04 AM)
Yeah 2 air bag is a big turn off...4AT is not ideal but many can live with that since this is a people Carrier
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Same like Livina last time. How many airbags do BRV and Aruz have btw?
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post Nov 7 2020, 01:38 PM

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I'd just don't get the engine. SOHC vs DOHC and still SOHC wins..
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post Nov 7 2020, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Nov 7 2020, 01:38 PM)
I'd just don't get the engine. SOHC vs DOHC and still SOHC wins..
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this is not about sohc and dohc liao
is how the manufacturer want the power to be deliver
the 1.5 has been on this 10x ps age for 15 year at least bangwall.gif

new 1.5 Di from honda can go up to 131hp liao yet lor
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 7 2020, 01:01 PM)
Same like Livina last time. How many airbags do BRV and Aruz have btw?
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BRV 2 , Aruz 6

but space wise is xpander stronghold
amad108
post Nov 7 2020, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 7 2020, 04:12 PM)
BRV 2 , Aruz 6

but space wise is xpander stronghold
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well that's about it..
pros
BRV = better acceleration and good fuel consumption
Aruz = cheaper price, good NVH, and better safety equipment
Rush = similar with Aruz but extra rm20k price tag (but no ASA 2.0 or toyota sense right?)

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post Nov 7 2020, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Nov 7 2020, 07:18 PM)
well that's about it..
pros
BRV = better acceleration and good fuel consumption
Aruz = cheaper price, good NVH, and better safety equipment
Rush = similar with Aruz but extra rm20k price tag (but no ASA 2.0 or toyota sense right?)
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Then Aruz is the best buy.
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Nov 7 2020, 07:18 PM)
well that's about it..
pros
BRV = better acceleration and good fuel consumption
Aruz = cheaper price, good NVH, and better safety equipment
Rush = similar with Aruz but extra rm20k price tag (but no ASA 2.0 or toyota sense right?)
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Aruz has the worst space , even smaller than alza by a huge margin
only plus point would be larger luggage space

hi speed stability and ride quality is another major achilles heel of the car
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post Nov 11 2020, 04:06 PM

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What about Xander vs Exora?
The price point for Exora much lower...

Which is better in terms of actual interior size? Especially 3rd row...
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QUOTE(putra23 @ Nov 11 2020, 04:06 PM)
What about Xander vs Exora?
The price point for Exora much lower...

Which is better in terms of actual interior size? Especially 3rd row...
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Likely Iriz Persona getting their CVT replaced, perhaps Exora too might be better buy after
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 13 2020, 11:36 AM)
Likely Iriz Persona getting their CVT replaced, perhaps Exora too might be better buy after
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What about interior space?
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 21 2017, 11:00 PM)
The Mitsu is now under which automotive conglomerate eh?
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QUOTE(putra23 @ Nov 15 2020, 02:19 PM)
What about interior space?
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Xpander slightly roomier according to specs. But Have not personally tried sitting in one.

For me it is still the CVT and I would wait for 2021 news of any changes to the Exora to consider it over the Xpander for the 25K savings
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QUOTE(djlake @ Nov 15 2020, 02:22 PM)
The Mitsu is now under which automotive conglomerate eh?
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Renault owns 43% of Nissan which owns 34% of Mitsubishi, as of 2019
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post Nov 16 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(djlake @ Nov 15 2020, 02:22 PM)
The Mitsu is now under which automotive conglomerate eh?
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 15 2020, 09:49 PM)
Renault owns 43% of Nissan which owns 34% of Mitsubishi, as of 2019
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Now has a lot of noises about Nissan intend to sell all or part of it's stake at Mitsubishi

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...tsubishi-motors
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 16 2020, 03:08 PM)
Now has a lot of noises about Nissan intend to sell all or part of it's stake at Mitsubishi

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/compa...tsubishi-motors
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Thats why i said as of 2019. But i dont think they will sell now because lack of buyers will push the price way below what was paid. Also Mitsu is not the one bleeding the worst.
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post Nov 16 2020, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Nov 16 2020, 03:14 PM)
Thats why i said as of 2019. But i dont think they will sell now because lack of buyers will push the price way below what was paid. Also Mitsu is not the one bleeding the worst.
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Yes you did...I hope they go their separate ways actually....They can be like Subaru or Mazda....Just form some technical cooperation (like how those two did with Toyota) but remained independent still. Small.but beautiful as how they have repeatedly mentioned it themselves...But this pandemic is going to shake things so bad, that I think Mitsubishi is better off partnering more with its non Japanese partners like in China, Indonesia, and their re-entry into India

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/m/70017324.html

https://www.financialexpress.com/auto/car-n...launch/1988108/


To.be honest, I think they are more agile and adaptive and even more decisive than Nissan now, so if Nissan wanted to sell, so be it, Mitsubishi has enough things going with their own doing anyway


https://thedriven.io/2020/11/02/mitsubishi-...hybrid-minivan/

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Mitsubishi Motors looks to be boosting its electric and hybrid vehicle ambitions, with reports out of Japan that the automaker will add five or more electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles to its lineup starting this year.

Nikkei Asia reported on Monday that Mitsubishi would be accelerating its push into electrics in response to increasingly strong vehicle emissions rules worldwide.

As The Driven has reported, the plug-in Eclipse Cross will be first off the mark, slated for a December launch in its home market, early 2021 for the US, and then later in the year for Australia and New Zealand.

This will be followed by the new Outlander plug-in hybrid (PHEV), which is due for release in the fiscal year starting April 2022 and – as reported here – will come with the addition of two-way or bi-directional charging, among other bells and whistles.

But Mitsubishi – which has fallen behind the global pace since being a market leader with the iMiEV – appears to have decided that its current portfolio of just three electric and plug-in hybrid models combined is not good enough.

Beyond the Eclipse and the Outlander, Nikkei reports that Mitsubishi is planning to release a hybrid version of its Xpander minivan, as early as fiscal 2023.

On pure electric cars, Mitsubishi will work with partners such as the Guangzhou Automobile Group, in China, where it plans to jointly release an EV in fiscal 2021, according to Nikkei.

The new EVs and hybrids add meat to the bones of the “small but beautiful” mid-term business plan put forward by Mitsubishi in July.

“We will shift our strategy from all-round expansion to selection and concentration,” said Mitsubishi Motors chief executive officer Takao Kato at the time.

“First of all, we will complete our structural reforms and further strengthen our competitive areas—ultimately to build a corporate structure that can surely generate profits during this mid-term period.”
The only part I think will be affected is :
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And in another partnership with fellow Japanese car maker, Nissan, Mitsubishi reportedly also has plans to develop a mini-EV as part of a three-way alliance with France’s Renault.

If their partnershio with Nissan fail that is....Does not sound like losing much to be honest.

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post Feb 27 2021, 12:36 PM

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Doing great in Vietnam
Source: wapcar

Mitsubishi Xpander outsells Toyota Avanza by 155x in Vietnam in Jan 2021!

Sanjay

Feb 23, 2021 10:00 AM

There's good sales, and then there's absolutely dominant sales. The latter is an honour the Mitsubishi Xpander proudly wears in Vietnam, thanks to Mitsubishi Motors Vietnam selling 2,793 units of the 7-seater there in January 2021. 

According to data published by Vietnamese media, the Xpander grabbed 78.1% market share of all MPVs sold there last month.

It's actually rather jarring to see how none of its competitors could even come close - no other offering could even crack the '300 units sold' mark.

The Suzuki XL7 - also sold in Thailand, could Malaysia be next?

Coming in second place - with a paltry 292 units sold, making up 8.2% market share - is the Suzuki XL7.

Vietnamese-specs Innova is essentially like ours

The Toyota Innova takes third place. Only 247 of those were sold (6.9% market share). In other words, 11.3x lesser than the Xpander. 

Peep the brown colour we don't get...and one that customers have to wait eight months for

Rounding off the top five are the Kia Rondo (44 units) and Toyota Avanza (18 units).

What's the Vietnam-spec Xpander like?

It pretty much mirrors ours, powered by a 1.5-litre, naturally-aspirated four-cylinder mill making 104 PS and 141 Nm. Apart from the 4-speed automatic transmission, Vietnamese customers also get a 5-speed manual option, depending on variant.

The higher-end AT variant comes with leather interior upholstery, the MT gets fabric only

And of course, it keeps seating for seven, and more storage spaces than you know what to do with. Basically the same things we know and love that made it a winner in wapcar's Car of the Year Awards 2020. Attached Image Attached Image

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