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Expander to beat BRV?
 
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TSEnergyAnalyst
post Aug 21 2017, 11:00 PM, updated 6d ago

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https://www.oto.com/berita-mobil/mitsubishi...a-br-v-21166641


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https://www.kompas.tv/content/article/11366...enjualan-avanza

http://www.en.netralnews.com/news/business...s.at.2017.giias

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post Aug 21 2017, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 21 2017, 11:00 PM)
Well at least it looks better then the BRV.
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post Aug 22 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 21 2017, 11:06 PM)
Well at least it looks better then the BRV.
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post Aug 22 2017, 09:34 AM

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The brand power though, it's just not there.
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post Aug 22 2017, 10:33 AM

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Depends Mitsubishi want to enter mass market or cater for niche only. Price n equipment list play an important role here.
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post Aug 22 2017, 11:30 AM

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The new Pajero sport still not here yet, will this all new model enter malaysia? hmm.gif
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post Aug 22 2017, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Aug 22 2017, 11:30 AM)
The new Pajero sport still not here yet, will this all new model enter malaysia? hmm.gif
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https://m.carlist.my/news/jakarta-2017-mits...n-nissan/46781/

Mitsubishi said yes according to Reuters report
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HANS  |  AUGUST 14, 2017 11:46 AM

Jakarta 2017: Mitsubishi To Export Xpander MPV To Malaysia In 2018, Confirmed As Next Generation Nissan MPV

Mitsubishi Motors have confirmed that the all-new seven-seater Xpander that has just made its global debut at the Gaikindo Indonesia International Auto Show (GIIAS) last week will be exported to neighbouring countries in the ASEAN region starting February 2018, reports Reuters.

The report by the London-based news agency quoted Mitsubishi Motors CEO Osamu Masuko as saying, "We will export this car across ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries starting next February.”

It also added that exports will begin first for Philippines, followed by Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam......

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post Aug 22 2017, 11:55 AM

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yes but BRV still hot sell than this Xpander off course , unkess it sell below BRV price , which is impossible
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post Aug 22 2017, 12:06 PM

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Toyoda Hiace also better looking!
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post Aug 22 2017, 12:10 PM

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Price brings the big factor...

Sell it cheaper and equipped more fixtures..

It had a good changes.
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post Aug 23 2017, 06:11 PM

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http://www.philstar.com/motoring/2017/08/2...arta?nomobile=1

Stole the show ?
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That good?

Hmmmm...........


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post Aug 23 2017, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Killmeplsok @ Aug 22 2017, 09:34 AM)
The brand power though, it's just not there.
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But the service is M>H by wide margin

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/jd-p...index-csi-study
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post Aug 23 2017, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 23 2017, 08:37 PM)
More like due to the SC being empty. ASX became non-relevant, and Attrage was even lesser found than Suzuki Alto. I've seen more Outlander than Attrage.

In the end still depends on price & equipment list.









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post Aug 24 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 23 2017, 10:44 PM)
More like due to the SC being empty. ASX became non-relevant, and Attrage was even lesser found than Suzuki Alto. I've seen more Outlander than Attrage.

In the end still depends on price & equipment list.
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The service level has no direct correlation with number of car sold

Take June 2017 YTD sales for example

Mitsubishi 3658
Volkswagen 2717
Ford 3089

If we choose to take the logic of more car sold than the service is weaker . In terms of service survey result , the brand ranking should have been:

Volkswagen should be on the top follow by Ford and thereafter Mitsubishi. V>F>M

But the survey showed service ranking is M >V>F

If we refer further to other brand say Toyota which sold more car than than Nissan and Mazda by wide margin yet Toyota service is ranked #1
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This data may be 10 years old and I'm a bit lazy to try to look up on the sales data -

In 2006, the Civic 8 was released. But in 2007 - Mitsubishi tried to one up Honda with their Lancer X.
They did succeed for awhile - really good price and specs too. But eventually supply couldn't keep up with Demand and over that period of time, the Civic still came out the eventual winner.

So if history is any indication of how things will be, then the BRV is probably in a better position to fend off Mitsubishi
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post Aug 24 2017, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 24 2017, 09:50 AM)
This data may be 10 years old and I'm a bit lazy to try to look up on the sales data -

In 2006, the Civic 8 was released. But in 2007 - Mitsubishi tried to one up Honda with their Lancer X.
They did succeed for awhile - really good price and specs too. But eventually supply couldn't keep up with Demand and over that period of time, the Civic still came out the eventual winner.

So if history is any indication of how things will be, then the BRV is probably in a better position to fend off Mitsubishi
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That was when Mitsubishi was on their own. Everything was built by them and them alone?

This Xpander is going to be a shared cost model with Nissan for new grand Livina under the new Renault Nissan alliance.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesi...s-idUSKBN1AQ1EE

if they can bring the cost down since the scale is up, which they should since now they could, then they have a better fighting chance if they translate that into a better equipped car with lower pricing


See the excitement as far as India below, already rendering is being drawn...LOL

http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/2018-ni...endering-276407



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post Aug 24 2017, 10:16 AM

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The Mitsubishi looks nice.

But the price has to match the BRV

I like the Honda Shutter the most but it's not sold here

Seen quite a few in Spore


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post Aug 24 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 24 2017, 10:04 AM)
That was when Mitsubishi was on their own. Everything was built by them and them alone?

This Xpander is going to be a shared cost model with Nissan for new grand Livina under the new Renault Nissan alliance.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesi...s-idUSKBN1AQ1EE

if they can bring the cost down since the scale is up, which they should since now they could, then they have a better fighting chance if they translate that into a better equipped car with lower pricing
See the excitement as far as India below, already rendering is being drawn...LOL

http://indianautosblog.com/2017/08/2018-ni...endering-276407
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Aye, I forgot about the new alliance. Haven't been following car news much in recent years.

But even taking recent events into account.

- The ASX, Outlander, Sylphy, Teana or the X-trail does not outsell Honda's Civic, Accord, HRV or CRV
- The Almera does not outsell the City/Vios.
- The Livina has held well against no/limited competition other than the outdated Rush and the overpriced Freed.
- Direct Rival for Livina seems to be the Toyota Sienta rather than the Honda BRV
- Mitsubishi most popular model is the Triton

Basing everything off memory so take its accuracy with a grain of salt.

If the Xpander is launched for both marques, wouldn't it be in Cantonese terms - Ghost hit Ghost?

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post Aug 24 2017, 10:51 AM

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Do have to admit it's quite a nice looking car as compared to BR-V. I do wish they have given a bit more techs and darker interior.

But then again, this is aimed to poke at the likes of mobilio, avanza...
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Aug 22 2017, 11:55 AM)
yes but BRV still hot sell than this Xpander off course , unkess it sell below BRV price , which is impossible
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Based on price listed in the screenshot, it is cheaper than the BRV. (at least in Indo)

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