30+ years ago I also don't know how to weld. 45 years ago I also don't know how to ride bike...

Birdy, bike Friday common variety? Phew… it's like saying buying a TIG welding set is expensive.

This is by far the most constructive post.

Thx for all d suggestion bro...
I am in melaka,choice for me to choose is kinda less,almost none...
Might go to try out at d shop suggested,and see hoe it goes...
Now my option left used java bike,or new dahon speed / fnhon storm i guest...

Im in Melaka oso la. You can scout at SBH and Rodalink. Maybe not Dahon. But Tern is definitely available there. Java, no need to mention lah. It's everwhere!

Or can pm basilgan. He otai foldie here. Kekeke

This post has been edited by fatani: Mar 8 2018, 10:20 PM

Haha,so nice ar...
Ya,i went to sbh & ksh,SBH left tern high-end,KSH got taiwan brand quantum...
Forgot about rodalink adi,will pay them a visit soon...

Or you can grab the tern crest velo. Oso 2k. Ok wat.

Guys..Need some help. I am trying to find a replacement crank cap (see pic), because i somehow lost it without even noticing that it wasn't there anymore. Actually i did buy one, but seems i got the wrong size (20mm dia). Actually 18mm oso doesnt fit. So today I measured it with a vernier caliper (silly me, i should've done this before i bought the cap), and weirdly, i got the dia around 13+ mm. Anyone know where i can get the replacement cap for litepro's crank? Somehow the smallest cap that i can find online is 15mm dia..







Thanks.

Hey, you are the one suggesting that unless I build my own unique bike, everything else wouldn't have been made to suit me! Lol

As you have made it all sound so easy, how about you building one from scratch and sharing with us here? It will be very helpful and would show the rest of us why we are wasting money buying good bikes?

Sure, TIG welding set would be cheaper, but it would be as useful as a bull with tits to the rest of us.

Haha, by installing those good parts, you highlighted the real weakness, the frame! I was given a chinese made folding bike once. Ridden once. You can just about watch the rust forming, heavy as hell, and it makes walking a better option! Waste of the earth's resources.

Not really laaa depend also... Steel frame is quite solid... the connector need a replacement so it can hold tight... unless the frame is so poorly made that it is not straight...else the steel frame should be fine... Rust just sand paper and send it to powder coat will last at least 9-10 years... dont paint as it will not last....

you need to know how to take care of steel parts.... majority cars made from metal I dont see cars getting rust everywhere

I think the Litepro crank, although uses GXP BBs, the crank bolts are ISIS. They come in 3 sizes, namely M15 (which you say doesn't fit) or the M14 or the M12. Actually if you don't mind the appearance, you can go to a nut and bolt shop and get a M14 and M12 allen bolt and the corresponding washer. I suspect it is the M12. FSA and Race Face use this size.

Don'try to find the original as many LBS don't stock this crank. Instead try finding FSA ISIS crank bolts for mountain bikes. Hope this helps. Here's a link to the sizes;

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/my/en/f...lts/rp-prod4010
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/my/en/r...olt/rp-prod3171

Another alternative is....if you really can't find that is, get an easy to find M15 and then ask the foundry to machine it to M12.

This post has been edited by etigge: Mar 9 2018, 09:26 AM

Shit. Didnt expect this will be a troublesome find.

Inside dia is 13+mm..so either 14 or 12mm..14 dont know can fit or not, 12 might be too loose. Damn.

Anyway, thanks for the info. I will try search my store room first, since i got two square tapered cranksets lying around somewhere. Will try to find those isis bolts and try it out on the litepro crank first and see how it turn out. Will share the result later.

Sometimes we are just happy to offer our advise from experience, I mean me myself too started from cheaper bikes. Although I started from (folding bikes category) a used Dahon Eco C7 which is the entry level of the Dahon. At that time I can't afford to actually buy a bike but one needs to occupy themselves in times of hardship. Experience from mountain biking days in the 1998s to 2001s has told me that a cheap bike won't encourage you much to pursue your hobby. I called it hobby because it is a passion from me and my wife. So, Dahon was the most reknown of folding bikes those days and incidently I saw an ad in Mudah.my and not BBS, because I haven't heard of BBS at that time. I bought the first folding bike for a mere 600 bucks and then slowly I started fiddling with it. Then I got my second Dahon Eco C7 , a new one this time from Kimbell Jaya. Jimmy sold it to me for 1K flat.

Those days, upgrading a folding bike was unheard off. I wanted to change the 7 speed to 8 speed. I found an 8 speed freehub cogs. He adamantly says it can't be done. So, I told him to just take out the old cog and fit in the new cog, that's all. He did it for 30 bucks. Yes! 30 bucks, just unscrew the cogs and screw in the new one. A few months later, LE Run had it's first warehouse sale and I was there and bought 3 Sora triple chainring cranks, some LX shifters. I started fiddling and Jimmy from Kimbell Jaya help me a lot in getting some difficult to find parts and also in the same note started observing and also both of us started the process of modding folding bikes. He was the only shop that will accommodate my crazy ways. Johnny Ng from MBS loathe me and even Sam Cheong started critisizing me in his folding bike blogs. If you go to V2 or 3 of this tread , you will see how the modding progress and also how I fell off from MBS and Sam Cheong. Sam Cheong even block me from his FB page because he and Johnny cannot accept that folding bikes can be modified.

So, after a year riding, I ride the Dahon Speed with 27 speed and my wife rides the Boardwalk also with 27 speed. Then the Dahon Dash was converted to 20 speed. Between all this was the Vigor, in fact I was the first person to acquire the Dahon Vigor when it was launched in Malaysia. The moment it arrive in Kimbell Jaya, I took one home already. That one, I modified to 20 speed also using the SRAM X5 components with SRAM Apex FD. Later on, modding was a normal thing in folding bikes and it becomes easier now as parts and know how is all over the internet. The China chinese are doing it on their products, so it's not a big deal anymore.

My point is, we learn from the journey, it's not easy and also after so much, we just want to show how to do it. Listening or not is totally up to an individual. But I do not discriminate if you are riding a 300 bucks bike or a 1K bike or even a 7K Brompton. I always advise those who can't afford ( some actually can afford but they just want to justify the cost ) to buy what the highest price bike they are willing to spend. It helps. It helped me on my first bike. Likewise, it is also just right that those unwilling to spend much on a bike don't slam insults on us that are spending more on bikes. It is just fair right? Afterall, this is just a hobby. I see other hobbyist spends thousand and thousands on RC planes and helicopters, even more thousands and thousands on photography and even more astronomical sums on 4WDs offroad hill trekking.

Looking at this tread now, it seems that the whole episode is just not worth the time. I have been on this tread a long time, since V2, I think. I am growing tired also. I think I should stop. Anyway it is not hard to get advise nowadays with so many information on the net and local bike shops. It will however, makes me having more free time instead of poring over the tread answering questions. I am just going to have many nice rides and leave KenC to his crusade against expensive bikes. So, he can advocate his mantra of getting the best for pennies. Have you seen the picture of his bike yet? He was so crazy to the extent of asking someone to buy a TIG welder and build their own bikes. Will you? How about you? What constructive arguments will you get from his kind of reply? He's in metal industry for umpteen years he says. So was my father in-law. I never dare to send my bike to him for repairs either. Why? Because he won't understand the dynamics of a bicycle frame, the vast advantages of a good frame and components.

Have you ever experience riding into some villages and some folks ask you how much you bought your bike? Then you answer 3K and see the look on his face. I am sure you did, and this is where the level of his mentality and knowledge is. The same as that villager. ever ponder this?

Happy Riding guys/gals. Maybe someday we ride together. If you meet an old couple on 2 yellow Birdies, just holler us and say you are from the forum Maybe we go for coffee.

Its easy… I won't learn anything new doing it. Moreover I has so many hobbies to waste my time on…
You got me wrong… in straight simple language
Buying a good bike is not a waste. Buying expensive bike is a waste.
Good does not mean expensive, expensive don't guarantee good.... an old Chinese saying

I would like to clarify that I advocate a dirt cheap FIRST bike. After that buy anything that you want with the knowledge and experience from the dirt cheap bicycle-like-object.

maybe you can advocate your 'cheapskate' method of saving money for bicycle somewhere else. people came here to get advise for their first folding bike, not first own-made bicycle. Not all people have a special set of skills to weld steels like you, thus advising them to buy a TIG is completely unnecessary (here at least).

P/s: If you are serious about frame making, why dont you help newbie here making their own 'custome-made' frame set. Heck! I will swap my Verge x20 if you can replicate Pinarello Dogma F10 frameset with zero defects.

Exactly! My 1st bike advice is get a cheapskate bike. Nothing more nothing less.
Bike building is another very expensive hobby, sure you want to start?

hi, need advise.

https://m.ezbuy.my/product/21000000491304.h...0folding%20bike

anybody knows the weight of this folding?

is it worth the price.

thanks

it is a JAVA bike ori or not dont know aaaaaa but JAVA is quite reliable

If you know it is an expensive hobby, why did U tell em' to build their own? trying to act show off?