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rkhairulrijal
post Jan 18 2018, 01:38 PM

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gck
post Jan 18 2018, 02:17 PM

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you need a fnhon that can fit in dimpa beg
KenC
post Jan 18 2018, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(dilgoh @ Jan 18 2018, 11:04 AM)
I'll PM you.  A hard case don't work for me.  My start and end points are always different.  I brought my foldie to the US.  Biked from Pittsburgh to DC.  Carrying the bicycle + luggage/backpack after a long flight, from the airport to the apartment, on the subway was exhausting!

I want to bike in Europe and the cheaper fares are on the European carriers and they have a strict baggage overall dimension of 158cm.  If I can afford to take Singapore Airlines, I won't have to worry about the baggage dimension.  Then, I rather pay for oversized baggage on the airline than to pay so much more for a Brompton!
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Bike Friday pakiT

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dilgoh
post Jan 19 2018, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Jan 18 2018, 08:28 AM)
Or lastest Dahon Carry Pack USD129

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This bag is selling for S$99 in Singapore. I may just get this!
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post Jan 19 2018, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Jan 18 2018, 07:20 PM)
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That's more expensive than the Brompton I think! If Dilgoh want a more price-friendly folding bike that packs small, choices are limited.
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post Jan 19 2018, 09:34 PM

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Thank you guys. A forummer (now a friend, off course) visited me in Taiping yesterday and took over the Dahon Route frame. I am now assembling the whole setup into a 2 x 10 speed for him. Will post a picture of the completed bike once ready. rclxms.gif

Anybody want a 20 inch 406 wheelset , let me know. It's for 7 speed only YA. Possible with a 8 speed freehub cogs. You can have it FREE if you want it.
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post Jan 20 2018, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 19 2018, 08:32 PM)
That's more expensive than the Brompton I think! If Dilgoh want a more price-friendly folding bike that packs small, choices are limited.
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Dilgoh never specify price, he only mention specific bag. PikaT is only 2+k usd cheaper than a trip to Europe or US.
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post Jan 20 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Jan 20 2018, 02:02 AM)
Dilgoh never specify price, he only mention specific bag. PikaT is only 2+k usd cheaper than a trip to Europe or US.
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Lol. My 10 to 14 days to Europe has always been less than S$2k all inclusive. My last trip to the US (3 months) was less than S$4k all inclusive. I don't want to spend on a brompton thus I want/intend to cuatom build a smaller foldie.

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post Jan 20 2018, 12:17 PM

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You can get a Dahon Curl i8 bike from Thailand for 37,900 Baht or RM4,600. You can still sell it at a good price in Singapore if you don't like it. I know it is priced at S$2,600 in Singapore.

All 20" bikes are above 160cm or 170cm precisely.
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post Jan 20 2018, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(dilgoh @ Jan 20 2018, 11:56 AM)
Lol. My 10 to 14 days to Europe has always been less than S$2k all inclusive. My last trip to the US (3 months) was less than S$4k all inclusive. I don't want to spend on a brompton thus I want/intend to cuatom build a smaller foldie.
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Too bad I am not well skilled in foundry works. tongue.gif Else I would design a bike, not folding but can fully dis-assembled like a sniper rifle. Then carrying around is very much easier. Just need time to assemble it only. Afterall, most riders here are not critical of folding and unfolding times anyway. I see many, even those that ride bikes that claimed to unfold in 15 seconds take their time taking out of their boot, unfolding, adjusting, ride around for a moment, fit their helmets and gloves, take their bottle out etc etc and the whole process takes half an hour. Hahahahaa biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:20 PM

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The thing about the common folding bike is most of the require to readjust the seat post height and handlebar height. This defeats the so-call 15s fold/unfold. Bike Friday seat stem and head stem design sorted this out nicely.
BTW, I have so many cycling friends who don't fold their bike. Some even have a roof rack to carry their foldies. smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:23 PM

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to travel with a folding bike by air, regardless of 20" 18" 16" the amount of work required to pack it, check it in, prepare it is almost the same. brompton may be slightly easier but not much. bottom line is you really have to plan your travel around your bike, to have thought that bike is another piece of accessories in your luggage is wrong.

been there done that...
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(dilgoh @ Jan 20 2018, 11:56 AM)
Lol. My 10 to 14 days to Europe has always been less than S$2k all inclusive. My last trip to the US (3 months) was less than S$4k all inclusive. I don't want to spend on a brompton thus I want/intend to cuatom build a smaller foldie.
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1) Get a fixie or single speed, it's the cheapest and lightest. 300 ringgit can get a brand new one. Bonus is no Fd and Rd to worry about when packing into a tiny bag.
2) learn to dismantle and assemble your bike. You can pack almost all Foldies into a backpack or dimpa bag. Seriously, dismantling the front and rear wheels will get you very far.
3) fast, cheap good. Choose 2.

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post Jan 20 2018, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(dilgoh @ Jan 19 2018, 02:55 PM)
This bag is selling for S$99 in Singapore.  I may just get this!
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You rich leh… 300 ringgit for a bag. I paid 300 ringgit for my minivelo.

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post Jan 20 2018, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 20 2018, 03:09 PM)
Too bad I am not well skilled in foundry works.  tongue.gif  Else I would design a bike, not folding but can fully dis-assembled like a sniper rifle. Then carrying around is very much easier. Just need time to assemble it only. Afterall, most riders here are not critical of folding and unfolding times anyway. I see many, even those that ride bikes that claimed to unfold in 15 seconds take their time taking out of their boot, unfolding, adjusting, ride around for a moment, fit their helmets and gloves, take their bottle out etc etc and the whole process takes half an hour. Hahahahaa  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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No need foundry to build a bike frame as per your description.If you can find chromoly steel tube, you can either weld or braze a frame up in a few hours. Minimum tools you need are a hack saw and a set of hand files. A Tig welder or a gas torch set up. A machining shop friend will definate comes handy.

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post Jan 20 2018, 05:42 PM

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All depend on types of your bicycle tours. From Dilgoh's posts, he wants a reasonable cheap and compact folding bike which does not exceed 158cm air baggage allowance.

I have joined more than 10 overseas rides with different bikes owners. Surlys, Dahons, Terns, Bike Friday, Hummer, Birdy and Bromptons. We alll checked in as sports equipments. I see the only bike can checked in as normal baggage is Brompton. Some took more time to set up the bikes but with practise, time will be shorter. I advised 1 Surly friend to change foldable pedals as he took more time to fix his normal pedals. Another Tern friend, no longer removes his bike fenders and rear rack. We were waiting for him to set up his fenders and rear rack upon arrival at airport.

Now, most of my friends take less than 15 0r 20 minutes to set up a bike in airport, including folding up the bike cardboard box.

Always practise at home.


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post Jan 20 2018, 06:08 PM

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Be patient, given time, I hope to see Brompton style Foldies flooding the market at around 1k ringgit.

Don't get me wrong, Brompton are great bike… it's the price that is ridiculous.

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gataddhin
post Jan 20 2018, 06:25 PM

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First time I packed this way. The bike was packed inside Tern Stow Bag with padded lining. I slotted bicycle box cardboard surrounding the bike. Bought RM5 large polypropylene bag from Mandalay wet market to give extra protection from scratches. Flew bike from Mandalay to KL via Bangkok.


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Damaged: Bent chainring and warped rear rim.
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post Jan 20 2018, 08:18 PM

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One would put a few protective PVC pipes inside the bag. Use elbow without glue so that the PVC pipes can pack away nicely.

Basic concept like so.
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Just a demonstration of concept, arrangements anyway you see fit.

#looks and work like a roll cage, also it's the minimum pipe use.

#since padded liner + cardboard doesn't survive the cargo handling test.

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gataddhin
post Jan 20 2018, 10:15 PM

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Thanks for your suggestion with pvc pipes.

I think I did not cover the bottom properly. When the baggage handler dropped my bike package from the baggage trailer, it landed on the rear wheel and the chainring. It was my first time I released the tubes air fully. Thus no tube protection for the rear rim.

Once I dropped my bike from KTM upper sleeping berth. The tires took the impact. No damage.

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