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azamunekurone
post Nov 1 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(dizismine @ Oct 31 2017, 06:34 PM)
I see. Which dahon do you suggest?
I also saw some people use Java or Trinx but not sure about which. Thus asking otai here for info. Hehe.
Thank you for the info as I do not mind for a used one but unfortunately I am in Sarawak.
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as stated before if u wanna find comfort on touring u can go with chromoly frame. theres no wrong with aluminium for touring, also can use. there are few folding bikes makers make chromoly frame. if i can recall dahon makes 2 frame. one is dahon speed and another is dahon boadwalk. java create one frame - java ira, but those setup are for speed demon with 451 wheels. khs and japan-korea brand oyama also got chromoly frame, but not many using it as touring bike like dahon. tern also makes touring folding bike, but used aluminum with all touring spec.

as for me, gears and wheelset can be upgraded later. mine also has been upgrade, the main criteria is a good frame.

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about ur tight budget,
increase a bit coz last time i bought dahon speed for rm1.1k used. and normally market price for used one are from rm1.3k and above. im from ipoh, last time i asked my friend to inspect it for me and later posted it to me. a bit hassle and costing, but still consider secured transaction. a good brand come with good hinges and handlepost technology.

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trinx and java also a good bike. but finding a good frame that last longer for any terrain and condition u can rely on dahon for more than 30years experienced making folding bike. i've been using my dahon speed for more than 3 years with all terrain and ride i've tested. even some offroad condition. the best and super solid bike i can said. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 1 2017, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(dizismine @ Oct 31 2017, 05:34 PM)
I see. Which dahon do you suggest?
I also saw some people use Java or Trinx but not sure about which. Thus asking otai here for info. Hehe.
Thank you for the info as I do not mind for a used one but unfortunately I am in Sarawak.
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sifu azam basically already wrote what i want to reply. sweat.gif

just to add up a bit, i got an alu TRS Victor, which shares identical frame design with java fit, and a dahon speed. If for TOURING purpose, i'd pick the dahon anyday, anytime. put a brooks, double chainring, and off you go! Layannn.
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post Nov 1 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(rkhairulrijal @ Oct 31 2017, 10:44 PM)
Java / Trinx are good enough for fresh blood. It can handle mid-level ride but pls look for 8speeds and above. Easy for u to upgrade later on.

However, I do think u might wanna increase ur budget a lil bit. Must consider cost for other cycling gears such as blinker, helmet, spare tyre etc.

Pls check the hinges before purchase and ask the bike shop to tune ur bike first upon confirmation.
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Thank you. I do not mind if I need to increase the budget based on the recommendation.

QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Nov 1 2017, 08:30 AM)
as stated before if u wanna find comfort on touring u can go with chromoly frame. theres no wrong with aluminium for touring, also can use. there are few folding bikes makers make chromoly frame. if i can recall dahon makes 2 frame. one is dahon speed and another is dahon boadwalk. java create one frame - java ira, but those setup are for speed demon with 451 wheels. khs and japan-korea brand oyama also got chromoly frame, but not many using it as touring bike like dahon. tern also makes touring folding bike, but used aluminum with all touring spec.

as for me, gears and wheelset can be upgraded later. mine also has been upgrade, the main criteria is a good frame.

about ur tight budget,
increase a bit coz last time i bought dahon speed for rm1.1k used. and normally market price for used one are from rm1.3k and above. im from ipoh, last time i asked my friend to inspect it for me and later posted it to me. a bit hassle and costing, but still consider secured transaction. a good brand come with good hinges and handlepost technology.

trinx and java also a good bike. but finding a good frame that last longer for any terrain and condition u can rely on dahon for more than 30years experienced making folding bike. i've been using my dahon speed for more than 3 years with all terrain and ride i've tested. even some offroad condition. the best and super solid bike i can said. thumbup.gif
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Thank you for the informative reply. This kind of information really do help me to decide on my bike purchase. A need to increase my budget would not be a problem if it is a bargain for future. It just brompton is definitely out of budget. LoL. Great bike that you have there.
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QUOTE(dizismine @ Nov 1 2017, 10:48 AM)
Thank you. I do not mind if I need to increase the budget based on the recommendation.
Thank you for the informative reply. This kind of information really do help me to decide on my bike purchase. A need to increase my budget would not be a problem if it is a bargain for future. It just brompton is definitely out of budget. LoL. Great bike that you have there.
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A Brompton is not suitable for touring although there are exceptions where some do take it for touring. Parts are hyper expensive and this is the first objection when it comes to suitability for tourers. Secondly, you can't find the parts easily. Bromptons are more for city commuting. You know, the last mile connection.
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post Nov 1 2017, 02:32 PM

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Brompton is a cult.... and at that price even if you can cycle around leaving it lock outdoor will be a huge risk.
My folding bikes are never more than 2k, Tern is used, dahon is not highest end model, upcoming Fnhon below 1.5k, i can take the risk..hahhahaha


QUOTE(etigge @ Nov 1 2017, 02:30 PM)
A Brompton is not suitable for touring although there are exceptions where some do take it for touring. Parts are hyper expensive and this is the first objection when it comes to suitability for tourers. Secondly, you can't find the parts easily. Bromptons are more for city commuting. You know, the last mile connection.
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post Nov 1 2017, 02:43 PM

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If you can wait, i find fnhon from taobao value for money..sub 1k but good spec./

QUOTE(dizismine @ Oct 31 2017, 06:34 PM)
I see. Which dahon do you suggest?
I also saw some people use Java or Trinx but not sure about which. Thus asking otai here for info. Hehe.
Thank you for the info as I do not mind for a used one but unfortunately I am in Sarawak.
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post Nov 1 2017, 03:02 PM

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Hi, I'm new to bike, have a dahon vigor d9 for few month, using it as recreation bike on weekend. Want ask a few maintenance question.
1. I think I need change the marathon Racer tire in 6 month time. Where can I find Marathon Plus or Panaracer Paselas 20"?
2. I'm using WD40 PTFE dry lube for chain. I heard paraffin wax lube is good, anyone know where to find?
3. Any shop to recommend for wheel truing? Or where can I buy the tool to DIY?
Thanks.
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post Nov 1 2017, 03:13 PM

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hi guys, is trinx dolphin 1.0 ok for newbie foldie? just weekends ride
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post Nov 1 2017, 03:44 PM

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Guys i pulled trigger on this!


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post Nov 1 2017, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(gck @ Nov 1 2017, 03:44 PM)
Guys i pulled trigger on this!
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nice looking, but 45T crank enough? i thought mostly they give 53/55T?
total damage <1.5k? i cant find the link... cry.gif
KenC
post Nov 1 2017, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(kww @ Nov 1 2017, 03:02 PM)
Hi, I'm new to bike, have a dahon vigor d9 for few month, using it as recreation bike on weekend. Want ask a few maintenance question.
1. I think I need change the marathon Racer tire in 6 month time. Where can I find Marathon Plus or Panaracer Paselas 20"?
2. I'm using WD40 PTFE dry lube for chain. I heard paraffin wax lube is good, anyone know where to find?
3. Any shop to recommend for wheel truing? Or where can I buy the tool to DIY?
Thanks.
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AFAIK no 20" Panaracer Paselas local offerings. Marathon Plus for 406 is available at roda link but I am not sure.

All dry lube can't survive the slightest wet road. you must reapply after every wet ride or bike wash. Also, manufacture specify 300km for dedicated dry lube. PTFE spray lube are not expensive, 20~30 can get. But the frequent reapplying piles up and gets a wee bit irritating…

I brew my own paraffin wax. I offer free waxing if you degrease your chain 1st. My paraffin wax recipy can ride in rain, flooded road and last at least 800km (still going) without reapplying, washing or cleaning. smile.gif
My current bragging phrase "I buy bicycle to ride, not to wash"

Most decent bicycle shops can true your wheel for a decent fee. 10~20. You can DIY if you wish. Plenty of YouTube to guide you even if you just touch a bicycle for the first time.

*parafin wax formula floating around the internet are hoax, they won't last 200km… don't ask how I know
**try my wax before judging. Follow my guides. I am no authority on wax lube but I tried everything you may think is right…

This post has been edited by KenC: Nov 1 2017, 06:39 PM
KenC
post Nov 1 2017, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(gck @ Nov 1 2017, 03:44 PM)
Guys i pulled trigger on this!
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You planned to change your chainring and Cassatte? Since you have 6 bikes, I pressumed your legs are not wimpy, the drive train combo will be way too low for you.
You will still need another ~100 for the pedals, ~300 for the cheapest double chainring Crankset + shifter + front derailleur, and optional 11-28t 9 speed cassette. Still just under your 2k limit.

This post has been edited by KenC: Nov 1 2017, 06:42 PM
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post Nov 1 2017, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(dizismine @ Nov 1 2017, 10:48 AM)
Thank you. I do not mind if I need to increase the budget based on the recommendation.
Thank you for the informative reply. This kind of information really do help me to decide on my bike purchase. A need to increase my budget would not be a problem if it is a bargain for future. It just brompton is definitely out of budget. LoL. Great bike that you have there.
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However hard I try, buying used parts, lowest grade parts, used bike, ori-cina parts… one still ended up spending around 1.2k on both my bike. And I am sure there will be more capital expenditure sooner or later… tongue.gif (having repeating dream of a 3000 wheelset… or is it a nightmare? tongue.gif )

It's true you can adapt any bike to you preference,its also true that we human are flexible enough to adapt to most bike.

Don't worry about future upgrade, you WILL modify your bike, its inevidable. Period.

Cheap bike expensive bike or opulent bike, it's all up to your objectives. Be it sport instrument, exercise machine, show casing your exquisite taste, flashing your wealth… up to you la. There are no top limit to price tag, 30k bike can be had, 24k wheelset got sell also…

My point is, earlier you buy a bike, earlier you start exercising (or whatever that you had in mind). Earlier you start on the job training… just buy the bike you don't mind throwing away. It will be painless.

*PS, you can always put the blame on cheaper bike… a huge bonus!

As for me, I am a hoarder, I don't sell my bike… hence, I always blame my bike even when I don't believe a word I say smile.gif

This post has been edited by KenC: Nov 1 2017, 07:27 PM
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post Nov 1 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 1 2017, 05:29 PM)
AFAIK no 20" Panaracer Paselas local offerings. Marathon Plus for 406 is available at roda link but I am not sure.

All dry lube can't survive the slightest wet road. you must reapply after every wet ride or bike wash. Also, manufacture specify 300km for dedicated dry lube. PTFE spray lube are not expensive, 20~30 can get. But the frequent reapplying piles up and gets a wee bit irritating…

I brew my own paraffin wax. I offer free waxing if you degrease your chain 1st.  My paraffin wax recipy can ride in rain, flooded road and last at least 800km (still going) without reapplying, washing or cleaning. smile.gif
My current bragging phrase "I buy bicycle to ride, not to wash"

Most decent bicycle shops can true your wheel for a decent fee. 10~20. You can DIY if you wish. Plenty of YouTube to guide you even if you just touch a bicycle for the first time.

*parafin wax formula floating around the internet are hoax, they won't last 200km… don't ask how I know
**try my wax before judging. Follow my guides. I am no authority on wax lube but I tried everything you may think is right…
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Found the marathon plus at roda link. Any other tire brand recommendations for 20" 406? Currently tire is 20x1.50, the marathon plus is 20x1.35. Do that mean better pickup but less grip?

I usually ride around 10-15km around my area during dry weather. If it is raining or road is wet, I wouldn't ride. Yes, I'm interested in the paraffin wax. My usual way to clean chain is just use WD40 spray, soak for 5-10min, paper towel wipe clean and apply dry lube. Is that enough to degrease?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(kww @ Nov 1 2017, 07:35 PM)
Found the marathon plus at roda link.  Any other tire brand recommendations for 20" 406? Currently tire is 20x1.50, the marathon plus is 20x1.35. Do that mean better pickup but less grip?

I usually ride around 10-15km around my area during dry weather. If it is raining or road is wet, I wouldn't ride. Yes, I'm interested in the paraffin wax. My usual way to clean chain is just use WD40 spray, soak for 5-10min, paper towel wipe clean and apply dry lube. Is that enough to degrease?

Thanks.
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You very hard working. I didn't clean my chain since after Chinese new year…

I am not picky with tires. My requirements are simple. At least 1-3/8 wide, supple tire, slick. I don't ride fast enough to notice tire grip. Slip a few time on smooth wet concrete floor because of my novice bike handling skill. Downhill, flat, uphill in heavy rain, never fast enough to loose grip. No I don't charge into sand and mud intentionally... not a hero smile.gif

This post has been edited by KenC: Nov 1 2017, 07:48 PM
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post Nov 1 2017, 07:43 PM

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i ordered one with 53t front 11t-25t behind. see enough first or not...
got 6 bike cycle also not very keng...hobbby collect cheap bikes..hahaha

QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 1 2017, 06:12 PM)
You planned to change your chainring and Cassatte? Since you have 6 bikes, I pressumed your legs are not wimpy, the drive train combo will be way too low for you.
You will still need another ~100 for the pedals, ~300 for the cheapest double chainring Crankset + shifter + front derailleur, and optional 11-28t 9 speed cassette. Still just under your 2k limit.
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post Nov 1 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(lazyman@home @ Nov 1 2017, 05:07 PM)
nice looking, but 45T crank enough? i thought mostly they give 53/55T?
total damage <1.5k? i cant find the link...  cry.gif
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post Nov 1 2017, 07:45 PM

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Very correct, butt sure itchy somehow.


QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 1 2017, 06:57 PM)
However hard I try, buying used parts, lowest grade parts, used bike, ori-cina parts… one still ended up spending around 1.2k on both my bike. And I am sure there will be more capital expenditure sooner or later… tongue.gif (having repeating dream of a 3000 wheelset… or is it a nightmare? tongue.gif )

It's true you can adapt any bike to you preference,its also true that we human are flexible enough to adapt to most bike.

Don't worry about future upgrade, you WILL modify your bike, its inevidable. Period.

Cheap bike expensive bike or opulent bike, it's all up to your objectives. Be it sport instrument, exercise machine, show casing your exquisite taste, flashing your wealth… up to you la. There are no top limit to price tag, 30k bike can be had, 24k wheelset got sell also…

My point is, earlier you buy a bike, earlier you start exercising (or whatever that you had in mind). Earlier you start on the job training… just buy the bike you don't mind throwing away. It will be painless.

*PS, you can always put the blame on cheaper bike… a huge bonus!

As for me, I am a hoarder, I don't sell my bike… hence, I always blame my bike even when I don't believe a word I say smile.gif
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QUOTE(KenC @ Nov 1 2017, 07:42 PM)
You very hard working. I didn't clean my chain since after Chinese new year…

I am not picky with tires. My requirements are simple. At least 1-3/8 wide, supple tire, slick. I don't ride fast enough to notice tire grip. Slip a few time on concrete floor because of my novice bike handling skill. Downhill, flat, uphill in heavy rain, never fast enough to loose grip. No I don't charge into sand and mud intentionally... not a hero smile.gif
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I'm scare of uphill climb, leg is to weak. That's why need to ride more.
I like to keep my toy clean, little bit of TLC is needed especially when it is still new. There is some rust on the chain when I got it, as it is keep in store for some time.
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post Nov 1 2017, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(gck @ Nov 1 2017, 07:43 PM)
i ordered one with 53t front 11t-25t behind. see enough first or not...
got 6 bike cycle also not very keng...hobbby collect cheap bikes..hahaha
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Know order 53T + 11-25t, sure Keng wan. smile.gif

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