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post Aug 17 2017, 02:23 PM, updated 9y ago

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Penendang kaki tu macam lembut. Tekam ke bawah moto tak.mau hidup
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:25 PM

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macam coil problem aje
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:25 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:29 PM

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confirm coil plug, spare coil plug dkt motor.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:29 PM

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tolak dengan cepat, then masuk 1st gear
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:23 PM)
Penendang kaki tu macam lembut. Tekam ke bawah moto tak.mau hidup
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Valve bocor. Takde compression.
Lain takde masalah.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin4578 @ Aug 17 2017, 02:29 PM)
confirm coil plug, spare coil plug dkt motor.
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but bro... tadi isi minyak ok je. takde langgar apa apa. sebelum gerak tadi sekali start ok.
cuma aku perasan tadi masa gear 4 tu dia macam mengaum mintak nak masuk gear lagi.....
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 17 2017, 02:33 PM)
Valve bocor. Takde compression.
Lain takde masalah.
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kena bukak engine ke bro?
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:35 PM)
kena bukak engine ke bro?
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Bukak top set je, head. Biase upah RM60, tengok barang ape rosak.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:35 PM)
kena bukak engine ke bro?
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Kena bikin top overhaul.
Ganti valve baru dan grind valve seat. moneyflies.gif
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:23 PM)
Penendang kaki tu macam lembut. Tekam ke bawah moto tak.mau hidup
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pakai lagi motor demak
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 17 2017, 02:38 PM)
Bukak top set je, head. Biase upah RM60, tengok barang ape rosak.
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selain vailve ada problem lain? cth cluch? kebetulan motor mmg susah turun gear. ada sekali tu tengah gear 4 aku ter-pijak gear masuk
4 jump to neutral mad.gif
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(NinjaGaiden @ Aug 17 2017, 02:39 PM)
pakai lagi motor demak
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ni moto wave la bro. yang ni bar jadi 1 jam lepas. aku dah la janjii dengan orang pukul 1. tepat 12.50 dia buat hal.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:40 PM)
selain vailve ada problem lain? cth cluch? kebetulan motor mmg susah turun gear. ada sekali tu tengah gear 4 aku ter-pijak gear masuk
4 jump to neutral mad.gif
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Paling teruk, Bearing pecah.
Tapi mintak jangan la, major overhaul nanti.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:34 PM)
but bro... tadi isi minyak ok je. takde langgar apa apa. sebelum gerak tadi sekali start ok.
cuma aku perasan tadi masa gear 4 tu dia macam mengaum mintak nak masuk gear lagi.....
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takut blok ada problem, u tgk dkt blok sana at kesan minyak hitam tak ? tapi normal coil plug yg problem.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:41 PM)
ni moto wave la bro. yang ni bar jadi 1 jam lepas. aku dah la janjii dengan orang pukul 1. tepat 12.50 dia buat hal.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:43 PM

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Mobo aku buat hall jugak, tekan2 butang power takde nyampu yang nyala.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:40 PM)
selain vailve ada problem lain? cth cluch? kebetulan motor mmg susah turun gear. ada sekali tu tengah gear 4 aku ter-pijak gear masuk
4 jump to neutral mad.gif
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blok haus
piston haus
piston ring haus

Maka takde compression. Tu la pijak lembut je.

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 17 2017, 02:33 PM)
Valve bocor. Takde compression.
Lain takde masalah.
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I second this. No compression. Reasons:
1. Leaking valve (valve jatuh)
2. Worn piston ring
3. Head gasket leaking
4. Camshaft (Broken/ worn out)
5. Broken conrod
6. Broken timing chain

Either way, have to send back to workshop for full inspection then only can know. You are using modified engine izzit?
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Aug 17 2017, 02:43 PM)
blok haus
piston haus
piston ring haus

Maka takde compression. Tu la pijak lembut je.
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tu yg suruh check blok sana ada kesan minyak hitam tak ?
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin4578 @ Aug 17 2017, 02:45 PM)
tu yg suruh check blok sana ada kesan minyak hitam tak ?
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Biasa ada kesan terbakar. Minyak hitam akan dibakar bersama petrol, maka biasa tak jumpa kesan.

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:50 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:51 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Aug 17 2017, 02:48 PM)
Biasa ada kesan terbakar. Minyak hitam akan dibakar bersama petrol, maka biasa tak jumpa kesan.
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boleh nampak sedikit.
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 02:23 PM)
Penendang kaki tu macam lembut. Tekam ke bawah moto tak.mau hidup
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kunci ada pusing ke ?
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post Aug 17 2017, 02:55 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:56 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 02:56 PM

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biasa problem kat head.
servis top set mur mur aje
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post Aug 17 2017, 03:00 PM

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moto kamu ni servis berkala ke tidak?
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post Aug 17 2017, 03:00 PM

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(hopefully) top overhaul only.
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post Aug 17 2017, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Aug 17 2017, 03:00 PM)
moto kamu ni servis berkala ke tidak?
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Ganti minyak hitam.baru ganti sparkplug
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post Aug 17 2017, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 17 2017, 02:54 PM)
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Ye la dyiu...itu paling basic....some timed i tendang tendang motor tak start...rupa rupanya itu kunci tak pusing
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post Aug 17 2017, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 17 2017, 02:42 PM)
Paling teruk, Bearing pecah.
Tapi mintak jangan la, major overhaul nanti.
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Aku rse rse cm sme je brader ni ckp.... Klu tba2 meraung tu mcm bearing pecah
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post Aug 17 2017, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Aug 17 2017, 04:45 PM)
Aku rse rse cm sme je brader ni ckp.... Klu tba2 meraung tu mcm bearing pecah
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Bearing mana ni bro? Bearing dlam enjin ke
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post Aug 17 2017, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 17 2017, 05:40 PM)
update us ...wat happen ya and repair how much
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Last week moto aku ada.lanngar something atas highway minyak hitam bocor. Lepws tu aku ada gi kedai abe tukar sparkplug...

Tu hari lama lama ago aku ada tukar plug kat kedai abe ni tapi moto.tetiba mavam mati sendiri..tapi still bolrh guna lagi. So check.kedai moto dekat dekat situ plug problem......

Plug yanh kedai abe tu tukar adalah plug baru. Dia tukar depan mata aku.naluri kuat mengatakan plug problem
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post Aug 17 2017, 07:01 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 06:54 PM)
Bearing mana ni bro? Bearing dlam enjin ke
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Bearing dlm enjin la bang... Sbb moto mmber aku ada jd cmtu..
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post Aug 17 2017, 07:10 PM

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post Aug 17 2017, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 06:59 PM)
Last week moto aku ada.lanngar something atas highway minyak hitam bocor. Lepws tu aku ada gi kedai abe tukar sparkplug...

Tu hari lama lama ago aku ada tukar plug kat kedai abe ni tapi moto.tetiba mavam mati sendiri..tapi still bolrh guna lagi. So check.kedai moto dekat dekat situ plug problem......

Plug yanh kedai abe tu tukar adalah plug baru. Dia tukar depan mata aku.naluri kuat mengatakan plug problem
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Tapi plug takde kaitan dengan compression start kaki.

Cuba masuk gear 1, then tolak starter tu, kalau motor nak bergerak, means okey.

Kalau dia tenang duduk diam while kaki dah half or abes turun, memang takde compression.

Bearing boleh jadi yang Rod punya atau yang pegang crank.

Moto ade sedak2 tak kalau start?
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post Aug 17 2017, 07:14 PM

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One way bearing kaput...tolak and masuk 1st gear start la..
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post Aug 17 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(ayam_kampung @ Aug 17 2017, 03:25 PM)
macam coil problem aje
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post Aug 17 2017, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(e60 @ Aug 17 2017, 04:16 PM)
ceh all the advise here show that nobody actually knows how to troubleshoot.

it is the kick starter pulley already worn to the max. Either the bearings or bushes are gone.

Easy fix, very cheap.

Nothing to do with compression or coil as the crankshaft wasn't even moving.
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This one might be right, if only if the loose feel is there.
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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 17 2017, 07:12 PM)
Tapi plug takde kaitan dengan compression start kaki.

Cuba masuk gear 1, then tolak starter tu, kalau motor nak bergerak, means okey.

Kalau dia tenang duduk diam while kaki dah half or abes turun, memang takde compression.

Bearing boleh jadi yang Rod punya atau yang pegang crank.

Moto ade sedak2 tak kalau start?
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Aku tukar plug tadi same prob tapi aku perasan aku tekan horn xde bunyi on signal macam x berapa kuat
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 17 2017, 10:43 PM)
Aku tukar plug tadi same prob tapi aku perasan aku tekan horn xde bunyi on signal macam x berapa kuat
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Mintak kedai check battery la. Kalau batt kong ke. Tapi batt takde kaitan dgn starter kaki loose.
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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 18 2017, 09:30 AM)
Mintak kedai check battery la. Kalau batt kong ke. Tapi batt takde kaitan dgn starter kaki loose.
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Aku rasa bttery problem bro. Aku try charge bateri lama balik. Nanti aku update
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 09:39 AM)
Aku rasa bttery problem bro. Aku try charge bateri lama balik. Nanti aku update
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Orait. Semoga dipermudahkan.
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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 18 2017, 09:59 AM)
Orait. Semoga dipermudahkan.
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Bro.sama jugak dah ganti bateri plug tak boleh on.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 02:29 PM)
Bro.sama jugak dah ganti bateri plug tak boleh on.
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i takut iginition coil, motor i pun sama, lampu tak terang,




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QUOTE(rudduan @ Aug 17 2017, 07:14 PM)
One way bearing kaput...tolak and masuk 1st gear start la..
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this...confirm one way bearing out..since u said masuk gear 4 mengaum...that mean clutch plate pn da habis
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 02:29 PM)
Bro.sama jugak dah ganti bateri plug tak boleh on.
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Motor boleh start tak?
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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 18 2017, 09:30 AM)
Mintak kedai check battery la. Kalau batt kong ke. Tapi batt takde kaitan dgn starter kaki loose.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 09:39 AM)
Aku rasa bttery problem bro. Aku try charge bateri lama balik. Nanti aku update
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if electric starter memang battery ada kaitan.. ni kickstart mostly problem lain ni..
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tukar moto la bro, angkat ducati.
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post Aug 18 2017, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 18 2017, 02:37 PM)
Motor boleh start tak?
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Tetap tak boleh. Fius check xde putus. Choke semua ok.
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QUOTE(kakiberbulu @ Aug 18 2017, 02:37 PM)
this...confirm one way bearing out..since u said masuk gear 4 mengaum...that mean clutch plate pn da habis
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Moto aku macam ada susah naak masuk gesr. Dah gear 4 tapi rasa macam gear belum masuk lagi
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QUOTE(kakiberbulu @ Aug 18 2017, 02:37 PM)
this...confirm one way bearing out..since u said masuk gear 4 mengaum...that mean clutch plate pn da habis
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Besring dalam engine ke bro
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 04:18 PM)
Moto aku macam ada susah naak masuk gesr. Dah gear 4 tapi rasa macam gear belum masuk lagi
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yup..symptom clutch plate da habis..dibiar lama akan rosakkan one way bearing..tukar jela..clutch plate 4 keping dgn one way bearing..bawah 200 je..termasuk EO upah dan GST..
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 04:20 PM)
Besring dalam engine ke bro
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bearing kat klac
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lagi jimat kalau dapat cari clutch plate sndr..minta tolong pasangkan je..

kalau nak sangat moto gerak..cari bukit..masuk gear 4..hold dlu..tolak turun bukit..da laju..lepaskan gear..confirm hidup..xada bukit..minta tolong member


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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 04:16 PM)
Tetap tak boleh. Fius check xde putus. Choke semua ok.
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Baca dari orang2 bawah, clutch takde issue patutnya.
Kalau clutch plate haus, tiap gear pon dia mengaum sikit.

So berbalik pada compression je dulu.
Masuk gear 1/2, try kick start.
Moto lompat, bearing takde masalah, mmg compression kat head je takde.
Bila piston tolak, valve bocor minyak lari kuar. (Mungkin lah)
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Piap je la moto tu. show her who is the boss.
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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 18 2017, 04:58 PM)
Baca dari orang2 bawah, clutch takde issue patutnya.
Kalau clutch plate haus, tiap gear pon dia mengaum sikit.

So berbalik pada compression je dulu.
Masuk gear 1/2, try kick start.
Moto lompat, bearing takde masalah, mmg compression kat head je takde.
Bila piston tolak, valve bocor minyak lari kuar. (Mungkin lah)
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Aku dah tolak moto gi bengkel. Orang bengkel kata compression kat pedal kaki tu takde. Valve bocor. Dah buka tgk mmg ada macam skru di dalam.

Apaa yanag /k/ cakap 94% tepat. Tapi macam mana boleh rosak macam tu? Aku xde langgar apa apa. Xde langgar lubang. Semalam aku turun pj -shah alam- kepong-kl ok xde ada masalah.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 18 2017, 08:21 PM)
Aku dah tolak moto gi bengkel. Orang bengkel kata compression kat pedal kaki tu takde. Valve bocor. Dah buka tgk mmg ada macam skru di dalam.

Apaa yanag /k/ cakap 94% tepat. Tapi macam mana boleh rosak macam tu? Aku xde langgar apa apa. Xde langgar lubang. Semalam aku turun pj -shah alam- kepong-kl ok xde ada masalah.
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Pakai wave memang macam tu, kena rajin service head
Ni dah alang2 bukak valve, minta porting sikit.
Extra lajuuu.

Punca rosak, tak pasti, tapi mmg berlaku. LC pon selalu valve bocor.
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QUOTE(YearOne @ Aug 18 2017, 10:23 PM)
Pakai wave memang macam tu, kena rajin service head
Ni dah alang2 bukak valve, minta porting sikit.
Extra lajuuu.

Punca rosak, tak pasti, tapi mmg berlaku. LC pon selalu valve bocor.
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Adakah pasal excessive usage? Pasal moto tu mmg mana mana pun aku pergi. Moto kerja tu jugak. Pasal sebelum ni minyak hitam moto wave tu bocor langgar sesuatu. So dah ganti cover ok xde problem apa. Aku ada buka thread pasal bocor tu.

Semalam apek tu caj 200 ganti dlm 8 barang.satu je aku reject. Minyak hitam
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QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 19 2017, 11:32 AM)
kebelakang ini moto i pun pun bikin hal...bila cornering belah kiri.macam ade felling tayar pancit(waktu hujan felling lagi kuat)....barubulan lepas tukar ball bearing haizzzzz 😑
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Tayar cukup angin ke tak
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post Aug 19 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 19 2017, 11:38 AM)
cukup.tayar ok (baru 2 bulan beli) rim pun cantik lagi....
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post Aug 19 2017, 11:51 AM

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ni citer tyr dpn ke blkg?
klu box knp kiri je geli2
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post Aug 19 2017, 12:54 PM

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klu pusing tyr dpn ad bunyi?
suh member pgg handle pstu ko try goncang tyr tgk ad free play truk sgt x
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post Aug 19 2017, 01:29 PM

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ex5?
beli 2nd 2009...2015 br tukr bearing dpn tu pn sbb karat then pecah
so mmg ssh nk rosak
unless u every traffic light do wheelie
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post Aug 19 2017, 02:21 PM

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something inside brake sys ke?
brek die blah kiri kn?
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post Aug 19 2017, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Aug 19 2017, 11:21 AM)
Adakah pasal excessive usage? Pasal moto tu mmg mana mana pun aku pergi. Moto kerja tu jugak. Pasal sebelum ni minyak hitam moto wave tu bocor langgar sesuatu. So dah ganti cover ok xde problem apa. Aku ada buka thread pasal bocor tu.

Semalam apek tu caj 200 ganti dlm 8 barang.satu je aku reject. Minyak hitam
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Tak pasal excessive, memang kalau nak jadi dia jadi je.
Kadang sebab timing chain tak ketat boleh jadi gak.

Dia terskip berapa gigi, result valve tak turun/tutup habis, piston dah sampai hentam.

Pon boleh jadi valve seat dah haus.

Minyak hitam tak payah sebab topset/head tak buang minyak hitam pon.


QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 19 2017, 11:32 AM)
kebelakang ini moto i pun pun bikin hal...bila cornering belah kiri.macam ade felling tayar pancit(waktu hujan felling lagi kuat)....barubulan lepas tukar ball bearing haizzzzz 😑
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Bro pakai monoshock ke stereo?

Kalau dua absorber belakang, mintak kedai bukak dedua, test enjut satu satu.
Tengok salah satu mesti lembut exrta. Boleh try servis bg keras balik.

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QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 19 2017, 01:16 PM)
i suspek bearing problem...kerana ade banyak jalan xrate kat sini...dan i 90kmph jalan je
macam mini speed bump...
ade mungkin x?
tapi dengar orang cakap fork ball earing sangat jarang rosak...sekali tukar dekat rm 38-50 xingat
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Jangan jangan tayar ko terlalu keras. Ko cuba keluarkan balik angin isi kat stesen pam. Guna yang digital meter . Meter digital ada flat tyre .
Aku ada kena sekali macam ni tapi aku lupa aku fix macam mana
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QUOTE(kici meow @ Aug 19 2017, 06:22 PM)
ok noted(stereo)....tapi spring belakang ke depan?
ini dah try banyak kali dah...
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Spring belakang. Bila corner beban ke tayar belakang. Try check dlu. Xya tukar baru kalau takde yg serius.

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