Oh my god

I dont really want to criticize them too much as I don't want to receive any LOD. But i was unlucky to have visited, stayed, considered properties by the "man"

Its like... "Why would you design the house like this?"

There were some issues involving titles too. When i was in OCBC, i could not finance some properties in Damansara Perdana because title wasn't given after 10 years. I believe it is up to the developer to get this done. Kesian buyers, difficult to let go as not many banks would finance properties aged 10 or more years without individual or strata title.

Just checking, is the "man" involved with CyberIa Smart Homes? I have a feeling that it has - it has the "man's" vibe. Personally, after seeing so much, I have (personally) banned the "man".

I made a mistake of viewing one landed developer's show unit, a 3-story corner terrace house in Cyberjaya by the "man". We came back asking "why the hell was it designed that way?" Imagine this. The ground floor where the parking garage is at is meant for the maid and kids room. It was cramped, felt like office cubicle. The 1st floor was much better, but we would have to climb up the stairs before joining the living room. Kitchen is on this floor. Felt like an apartment. 2nd floor is where it is at, but it is way too high up for us, even for someone in our early 30s. Not worth having our main bedroom in the 3rd

The intermediate units were also too narrow. Felt quite claustrophobic when i was in it

I don't personally hate the "man", but I wouldn't touch his properties with a 10-foot pole.

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Apr 20 2019, 01:43 AM

Bought already. but not in Cyberjaya. A landed corner in Dengkil - Serinia City. SD makes more sense, most of their city developments mature into a good city down the road, because do actual town planning. There will be a mix of highrise and landed units.

Cyberjaya was initially developed by Setia Haruman, but was then handed off to eight different developers if I am not mistaken. This is why you see a miss-match of development in Cyberjaya, with different developers given different lots and trying to maximize profits. It has "strayed from its original aim of becoming an IT hub".


1. "There are problems with indiscriminate littering, doubts over safety, as well as reckless driving on the roads" - no traffic but stupid Cyberjaya-based drivers causing plenty of accidents

2. “Take a drive along the main road of Cyberjaya, and you will see plenty of rubbish, an unkempt and untrimmed landscape..." - MPS no money for Cyberjaya upkeep because owner-investors don't have money to pay the cukai pintu

3. "...and worse, mobikes (mobile bicycles) left everywhere. Students just use them and throw them around as though the bikes belonged to them." - same thing is happening with the electric scooters

Sigh.

Mate. I run my own business. I can move my office from Cyberjaya anytime. At least I won't be living in a place with one of the highest proportion of foreigners-locals.

Your city is currently being crowded by these undesirable foreigners. They are not expatriates who work in Malaysia professionally, they are students with visas and blue-collar workers. For some reason you guys love these people despite them being involved in almost EVERY murder/robbery related crimes in Cyberjaya as listed below.

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: May 22 2019, 09:19 PM

No man, when I bought Serenia, I already know what to expect. Have you ever heard of SD city being flooded? ALl the SD cities are doing well now, blooming, be it the old towns like Subang Jaya or the newer ones like Denai Alam and Elmina. This is because SD builds a whole town, everything is under their planning, unlike Cyberjaya and its haphazard development. All developers want to maximize their returns and would flood the city with highrises...

Cyberjaya buyers thought Cyber was going to be a prime city, but due to the majority buyers being investors who are apathetic about the conditions about the city, it is turning into ruins.

1. Bad city planning, too many high rises. Despite some of you guys telling people not to buy high-rises, the fact is that plenty of developers are building them

2. Following 1, the reason why there are flash floods is because of haphazard developements... bad city planning (again)

3. Now that there are flooding in the areas, banks would be less than likely finance units there. I know a particular bank would blanket ban an area if they made it to the news for flooding.

Your city was touted to be a great cyber/digital city, but the traffic lights don't even have proximity/pressure/weight sensors to better manage the traffic. Case in point would be the traffic light near the KFC/Petronas



This post has been edited by wild_card_my: May 23 2019, 12:55 PM

Right, I stand corrected. But my point about SDP townships are better planned as they planned everything as a whole stands. SDP Elmina still have a few decades of development, same goes with Serenia.

Cyberjaya is being build by a mix of developers after Setia Haruman gave up. This is why you can see about 8 developers developing Cyber haphazardly. The results? The teh-tarik situation we had yesterday.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...ark-mrt-station



Cyberjaya is 2nd Phase. About 4-5 years until this arrives, can Cyberjaya survive?

1. it is possible that the MRT website has not updated yet, corporate websites can sometimes be slower than the news. For now you can take whatever is reported across the news channels at face value. Not to mention this report is more than a month old and no corrections have been made since then

2. Yeah i live in Cyberjaya, still empty condos and empty commercial lots. Since SH sold the smaller parcels to the smaller developers about 8 years ago, every developer raced to erect their condos and mixed development. Buyers bought at future prices then, which never materialized due to the economic slowdown and over supply.

VEga residensi? I was in Domain 5 a few years ago until the Chinese scammers came. I left for something closer to Dpulze. Now that the Chinese have left or caught by the authorities I heard the owners are having so much trouble filling their units back in. Good local stores were taken over by the Chinese merchants to cater to the scammers, and they have closed their shops as well.

Vega is actually west-side and Domain is in the south side. I find foods in Tamarind too hipster for me, I prefer the more family-oriented Dpulze.

Those Lakepoints are having a difficult time to sell, always see agents from real estate agencies trying to push them in Dpuzle in the past few years. A good condo would have sold out long ago. Oversupply, and all developers want to maximize their investments and built super-high condos. Cyberjaya was supposed to be well-planned, but I guess it has failed that for now.

They say there is a limit of just 4000 landed houses here, but they never said anything about high-rise. They definitely need the feeder bus or tram now, to connect to the MRT in northern Cyber.

Did you know that there was a plan for the MRT station to be built near that Tamarind? Do you see the large 6-lane road that connect that area to Setia Ecoglades? That was reserved for the MRT station, but seeing that Cyberjaya not being a successful town they changed plan and built the MRT on the further side of the town, and that was only because it was on its way to Putrajaya.

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Dec 20 2019, 12:42 PM

The MRT station near tamarind definitely was in the older master plans. These things changed and this is what we have today (no MRT station there). But you can see the legacy remain (the 6-lane road)

For own stay its ok, but what if you need to dispose it to move elsewhere? That is why i only rented here. Would have made so much loss had I bought, even for own stay as the prices as well as rental only dropped since 4 years that i started renting here

You have holding power, good for you

Unfortunately a good number of property buyers don't, that's why you see a lot of management defaults and lelong units, not just in Cyberjaya.

You are right! I think it was the LRT due to the age of the master plan, and that MRT probably wasn't even in its inception

Btw, the LRT that connects Cyber to Putra to Kajang that you are referring to is currently being considered for revival correct? I remember someone discussing that in a thread a few months ago. Currently there is a lot of traffic between Putrajaya and Kajang (a lot of government staff reside in the east side of Putrajaya), this should serve them well. Cyberjaya residents can tumpang too, and this will help the city quite a bit

I have a client who was involved with the Cyberjaya master plan. I met him recently but he was in it many years ago. I guess it was meant to be LRT and not MRT then, since the MRT is much more recent than Cyberjaya

In anycase, you do not have to be so triggered about my comments. It turns out the governments of Badawi, Najib, and resurgent Tun M have all given up on Cyberjaya. If you have any beef please take it with these premiers, all of whom are still alive, if you want to insult them personally up their faces.

It wasn't me who made Cyberjaya the ghost town that it is now, it was people who (mis)planned and (mis)build the city that are at fault. As a (tenant) resident of Cyberjaya, I am enjoying the very low rentals (vs the commitments that purchasers have to pay each month) while posting a report of my observation of this city.

I have received plenty of compliments by property investors regarding to the on-the-ground situation of the city. Some have diverted their investments elsewhere especially after I showed them the numbers from property websites like Brickz, documents of maintenance defaults in high-rises all over the city, etc. I did not lie nor do I have interests in the appreciating nor depreciating values of the units in the city.

However, if I were a newbie in properties, I would appreciate someone like myself sharing the things to look out for when buying my (first) properties. I would like someone to share these things:

1. Capital appreciation
2. Rental yield
3. Maintenance defaults and its effects on the facilities
4. Influx of people who are not desirable (when I mentioned the Mainland Chinese invading Domain 5, a lot of people with vested interests in Cyberjaya called me racists. Yet I was vindicated when it was shown that these people were scammers; they came and stayed here illegally without the correct travel documents - they needed work visa which they obviously didn't have)

I noticed that Cyberjaya investors are very vicious against people criticising their city. These levels of viciousness do not appear from investors in other cities like Puchong, Shah Alam, subsets of PJ, Rawang, etc. I can criticize (with merit) those cities and they would remain calm, as if they accept that their cities are not perfect, but there are other redeeming qualities that made them invest (and perhaps stay) in those cities. Not with Cyberjaya investors though, they are very aggressive - I think it is partly because most of them bought properties there for investments as opposed to for own-stay. They experience the stress and anxiety of capital depreciation of their units and lack of rental yield or any rental income for that matter; yet they do not get to balance that by living in a stress-free environment, with low-traffic and a ghost-town, serene vibe in selected areas.

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Dec 31 2019, 12:59 PM

It is 6-lane road, with 3-lanes on each side coming into the junctions almost from all sides of the intersection, before one lane spits off

The area is huge, much bigger than other areas in the city. I don't doubt that they planned to build an over hand LRT/MRT station up there, they reserved the space (the width)

I agree with you completely, critics as well as investors have hidden agendas when giving comments about any locations. Those who have vested interests will usually dismiss any critical comments no matter how supported the evidences are

I remember when I complained about the sudden influx of the Chinese Mainlanders into Cyberjaya. I provided their photos as well as videos of them in conversations which proved their origins (just so you know, Chinese Mainlanders have different accent to Malaysians, even when both are speaking Mandarin). Due to my reports, a number of Cyberjaya investors called me racist, as if I do not like Chinese. My neighbor back in domain 5 was Chinese, and I got along fine with him.

I was vindicated though after the immigration department raided their offices and dwelling and arrested 1000 of them, no wonder I was not comfortable with them, there were tons of them and they were scammers who stayed here illegally.

I have yet to receive any apologies from those who have vested interests in Cyberjaya for falsely accusing me of racism. In their efforts to fend off the depreciation of their properties, they steep to false accusations. They are very dangerous and quite fantical. I think they are desperate

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Jan 1 2020, 09:13 PM

The ones I hate the most are those that are attached to the developers and recommend the public to purchase the units using the discount codes where you would get small discounts but they would get a huge commission

Any cross promotions need to be made aware of, but the public were blindsided and end up with units in Cyberjaya that have lost so much value due to the uncontrolled development of the city. Investors who listened to these gurus were burned, unable to sell the units without incurring much losses (need to pay the banks out of their own pocket) or bleed every month due to the lower rental + maintenance than installment

Their recommendations commissions (from the developers) are their hidden agendas like you mentioned. I feel sorry for the investors that have to anxiously go through their life without any solutions in sight

This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Jan 5 2020, 09:48 PM