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 What do you think about future Cyberjaya, Realistic or Ghost Town

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post Nov 3 2017, 02:38 PM

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anyone bought in Centrus Soho? VP soon.
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QUOTE(MO1 @ Oct 31 2017, 04:48 PM)
I think around 25-35% shop lots along Jalan Bukit Bintang (from Grand Millennium Hotel to Jalan Pudu junction) are occupied by middle eastern businesses. Try walk along the road and you can get the feeling of being on a street in Amman, Beirut or Cairo.

By the way, Qatar Investment Authority (QIA) is the largest shareholder of Pavilion KL (Desmond Lim 2nd largest) and also the owner of Fahrenheit 88.

In Cyberjaya, the equivalent is Neo-Domain area a.k.a. Arab Town. Plenty of middle eastern businesses there.
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Also in Wangsa Maju, Ampang, got lots of arabs. I don't mind Cyber being another arab hotspot though cause I like their food. tongue.gif Just hope it wont be so mahal lah.
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the chinese school ll start in Jan next yr?
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Been awhile since I last blow water about cbj.
I used to work for about half decade in cbj.
Back then the town is really boring, the only residential property in cbj is neo cyber, melor, country height townhouse (forgot the name), cyberia and cyberia crescent. No other residential unit exist. Years is 2010. I still remember, the only place where I can have my lunch is at terminal, cbd 1, oldtown.
I travel to work daily and decided to rent in puchong after about half year working there. Of course, I wanted to rent in cyberjaya at first, but the rental in cbj is very expensive.
I still remember when I told my senior that I planned to rent in cbj, he immediately respond and told me that it's very expensive and it's better to rent somewhere nearby and travel to work by dts.
Upon surveying, the lowest rental I can find is 1700 for cyberia condo. I gave up renting in cyberjaya and the rest is history.

Fast forward to year 2011-12, I saw many new project coming into cyber and seriously surveying the market in cyberjaya. As I stay in the company for long time, I found out that everyone (my colleague) like to live in there only if the rental is cheaper. I come to a conclusion that
1St everyone like to stay nearby the office of they can, no one like to travel even if there is no traffic coming to work.
2nd, we are all kuli, no one who are single or couple willing to spend 1600-1800.00 on rental every month.
3Rd, there is nothing in cyberjaya. We are getting sick of limited choices during lunch hour.Can't imagine need to feel the same for dinner as well.
My survey covers far deeper than that. I monitor the water and electricity disturbance there and Internet as well. The infrastructure, I notice the road is wide until one day I notice it's purposely done so the road can be change to 3 lane.by that time, I'm already in love with cbj. Day in day out, I'll log in to the Internet when I'm free just to Google about cyberjaya. Of course, wasn't much info I can get in lyn at that point of time. I got most of my question answered in setia haruman and cyberview site.
End of 2011 and 2012, I begin to target on cyberia condo, I got a few other options back then, dpulse, Shaftsbury, Garden Plaza, dibs is popular.
End of my hunt, I get my ball of steel to make my move on cyberia condo. After that more options pop up mbtl, arc,pangaea, serin, skypark, the place. Wanted to get serin and was told its already sold out (few days after the launch) hp guys Sapu.. Too late for me.

I got a unit not in the heart of mmu and since then many good news that is out of my prediction. Ioi putrajaya, mrt, hospitals, Chinese school, and recently mcd, another wonderful news I discovered today.

My take is, many people work there but not living there. Low rental might be good and act as catalyst. Infrastructure bring in residential, residential bring in more infrastructure. More infrastructure bring in more residential and it will become a loop. University is a bonus.

Seeing other boss telling over supply make me wonder if cyber is really out of supply? Or it's not efficient enough to tap the supply? Which is which? Worst come to worst I just stick the big banner along the bus stop renting out rm 1000.00 and camp until skypark and mrt completed.

Worker who work in dpulse today isn't working there back in 2010. Just like no worker in skypark now doesn't mean there will be no employment from skypark once it's completed and occupied in the future. Can in consider the worker as supply? If yes, then the logic of more project means oversupply is invalid because the new project is hosting new batch of supply. Unless that place isn't attractive enough for people to start a new business.
Of course, all is just my personal opinion and I also understand that not many people comprehend or agreeing with this concept.

From bottom of my heart, if given another choice, I'll still make the same choice today. But unfortunately I'm already capped.
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post Nov 15 2017, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Nov 15 2017, 02:32 AM)
Been awhile since I last blow water about cbj.
I used to work for about half decade in cbj.
Back then the town is really boring, the only residential property in cbj is neo cyber, melor, country height townhouse (forgot the name), cyberia and cyberia crescent. No other residential unit exist. Years is 2010. I still remember, the only place where I can have my lunch  is at terminal, cbd 1, oldtown.
I travel to work daily and decided to rent in puchong after about half year working there. Of course, I wanted to rent in cyberjaya at first, but the rental in cbj is very expensive.
I still remember when I told my senior that I planned to rent in cbj, he immediately respond and told me that it's very expensive and it's better to rent somewhere nearby and travel to work by dts.
Upon surveying, the lowest rental I can find is 1700 for cyberia condo. I gave up renting in cyberjaya and the rest is history.

Fast forward to year 2011-12, I saw many new project coming into cyber and seriously surveying the market in cyberjaya. As I stay in the company for long time, I found out that everyone (my colleague) like to live in there only if the rental is cheaper. I come to a conclusion that
1St everyone like to stay nearby the office of they can, no one like to travel even if there is no traffic coming to work.
2nd, we are all kuli, no one who are single or couple willing to spend 1600-1800.00 on rental every month.
3Rd, there is nothing in cyberjaya. We are getting sick of limited choices during lunch hour.Can't imagine need to feel the same for dinner as well.
My survey covers far deeper than that. I monitor the water and electricity disturbance there and Internet as well. The infrastructure,  I notice the road is wide until one day I notice it's purposely done so the road can be change to 3 lane.by that time, I'm already in love with cbj. Day in day out, I'll log in to the Internet when I'm free just to Google about cyberjaya. Of course,  wasn't much info I can get in lyn at that point of time. I got most of my question answered in setia haruman and cyberview site.
End of 2011 and 2012, I begin to target on cyberia condo, I got a few other options back then, dpulse, Shaftsbury, Garden Plaza, dibs is popular.
End of my hunt,  I get my ball of steel to make my move on cyberia condo. After that more options pop up mbtl, arc,pangaea, serin, skypark, the place. Wanted to get serin and was told its already sold out (few days after the launch) hp guys Sapu.. Too late for me.

I got a unit not in the heart of mmu and since then many good news that is out of my prediction. Ioi putrajaya, mrt, hospitals, Chinese school, and recently mcd, another wonderful news I discovered today.

My take is, many people work there but not living there. Low rental might be good and act as catalyst. Infrastructure bring in residential, residential bring in more infrastructure. More infrastructure bring in more residential and it will become a loop. University is a bonus.

Seeing other boss telling over supply make me wonder if cyber is really out of supply? Or it's not efficient enough to tap the supply?  Which is which? Worst come to worst I just stick the big banner along the bus stop renting out rm 1000.00 and camp until skypark and mrt completed.

Worker who work in dpulse today isn't working there back in 2010. Just like no worker in skypark now doesn't mean there will be no employment from skypark once it's completed and occupied in the future. Can in consider the worker as supply? If yes, then the logic of more project means oversupply is invalid because the new project is hosting new batch of supply. Unless that place isn't attractive enough for people to start a new business.
Of course, all is just my personal opinion and I also understand that not many people comprehend or agreeing with this concept.

From bottom of my heart, if given another choice, I'll still make the same choice today. But unfortunately I'm already capped.
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post Nov 15 2017, 03:57 PM

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Unless cbj population could double by end of 2019, over supply is substantial.

http://napic.jpph.gov.my/portal/web/guest/...=1&from=listing

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Interesting....http://cyberjayamalaysia.com.my/docs/defau...s-milestone.pdf

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Nov 15 2017, 08:44 PM)
20 years history of failure.


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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Nov 15 2017, 08:44 PM)
Looks all not as planned
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 15 2017, 03:57 PM)
Unless cbj population could double by end of 2019, over supply is substantial.

http://napic.jpph.gov.my/portal/web/guest/...=1&from=listing
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2017, 10:45 AM)
Don't forget your famous 20 towers in construction
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one crane stopped, another project with crane starting.....

so many developments in Cyber......crane will be the permanent feature.....
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 15 2017, 09:41 PM)
20 years history of failure.
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Hatred in your heart again. If CBJ is a true failure you will not see so many projects lining up like Chinese School, MRT 2 (2 stops, not 1, not 0), Cyberjaya Hospital, Cyberjaya City Centre and on and on. You have lost any credibility if there is any to begin with. Your eyes and heart have venom in them and no matter what facts are presented you, you will choose to see the same negative side. Wake up, CBJ has moved away from being a Silicon Valley. Just like Malaysia has moved from being an agriculture country. Are you aware of that or still being trapped in your hatred cave?
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QUOTE(tonertoner @ Nov 16 2017, 05:58 PM)
Hatred in your heart again. If CBJ is a true failure you will not see so many projects lining up like Chinese School, MRT 2 (2 stops, not 1, not 0), Cyberjaya Hospital, Cyberjaya City Centre and on and on. You have lost any credibility if there is any to begin with. Your eyes and heart have venom in them and no matter what facts are presented you, you will choose to see the same negative side. Wake up, CBJ has moved away from being a Silicon Valley. Just like Malaysia has moved from being an agriculture country. Are you aware of that or still being trapped in your hatred cave?
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Cbj was developed at about the same time as puchong, Kota kamuning and bukit tinggi. Population, commercial vibrance, property price speak for itself.

Moving forward, cbj has one of if not the highest number of unsold high rise unit in Selangor.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 16 2017, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 16 2017, 06:53 PM)
Cbj was developed at about the same time as puchong, Kota kamuning and bukit tinggi. Population, commercial vibrance, property price speak for itself.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 16 2017, 07:53 PM)
Cbj was developed at about the same time as puchong, Kota kamuning and bukit tinggi. Population, commercial vibrance, property price speak for itself.

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different is puchong etx all opened up for all developers to come n build...cyberjaya was developed by ONE master developer. Only recent years it opened and everyone can see the difference. History is history..most importantly the plan going forward.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 16 2017, 07:36 PM)
different is puchong etx all opened up for all developers to come n build...cyberjaya was developed by ONE master developer. Only recent years it opened and everyone can see the difference. History is history..most importantly the plan going forward.
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Yes, previously fail due to that Master developer not capable to develop... now starting open to others developer, and now it will be different story... time will tell...
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 16 2017, 07:36 PM)
different is puchong etx all opened up for all developers to come n build...cyberjaya was developed by ONE master developer. Only recent years it opened and everyone can see the difference. History is history..most importantly the plan going forward.
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There are 20+ wip towers in cbj and napic current data show many units are unsold.

In fact, cbj has one of if not the highest number of unsold high rise unit in Selangor.

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Icemax u repeated ur statement so many times...seriously, we want more constructive discussion. Anyway, i gave up to reply your statement. Lol. I guess ppls read the thread would know what to absorb and whats not.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 16 2017, 06:53 PM)
Cbj was developed at about the same time as puchong, Kota kamuning and bukit tinggi. Population, commercial vibrance, property price speak for itself.

Moving forward, cbj has one of if not the highest number of unsold high rise unit in Selangor.
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Hello, don't bull shit if you do not know anything or pooh without research:
1) Puchong existed way before CBJ existed. During the communist insurgency in 1948, all residents were resettled to an area which is known as Kampung Baru Batu 14 later called Puchong.
2) Puchong IOI Mall was opened in 1998 after many many years after Puchong was inhabited.
3) Kota Kemuning was developed by Gamuda Land in 1994.
4) Bukit Tinggi is just an extension of Klang, which is 3 minutes drive from HTAR (Klang). Do u know HTAR existed in 1985? Hello??

Which parts of the above says that it is about the same time as CBJ. Do you measure success of a place by number of unsold units? Who taught you that? Mont Kiara has high number of unsold units and so is Iskandar Johor. Anyway all 'facts' you presented is pure fart. U r such a shame to be associated with.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 16 2017, 09:24 PM)
Icemax u repeated ur statement so many times...seriously, we want more constructive discussion. Anyway, i gave up to reply your statement. Lol. I guess ppls read the thread would know what to absorb and whats not.
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