People bought landed in cbj for similar reasons to those bought in rawang, setia alam, bukit tinggi, seremban, etc. the difference between cbj and other areas is 20+ wip towers.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Sep 6 2017, 10:09 AM

Good morning

I've been reading this thread from the beginning but I kept refraining myself from commenting as this discussion, like every other CJ thread unfortunately, always ends up being trolled and spoiled. At times, I wonder if there can ever be mature and honest discussions on this forum. Well, I'll give it a go and share my perspective on CJ as a buyer for own stay.

First of all, for those who don't know me, I was not born nor raise in this country, rather I have lived and worked in many countries, mostly developed nations or oversea territories of said nations, so my expectations and preferences can be quite different from the local population. Also, I have been living in Malaysia, KV exclusively, for 10+ years now, so I'm quite familiar with the local standard of living.

The primary reason I chose to buy and stay in CJ is its uniqueness compared to the rest of the KV. For one, it's a planned township, and compared to the urban sprawling found elsewhere, that means a well designed network of roads that is both ample and diverse (i.e. not forced to drive back into a single road to get anywhere - yes I'm looking at you Puchong), gazetted green spaces and parks (nicely spread out and totaling 40% of the land area), and overall a balanced environment comprised of housing, offices and shops, without any factory (and neither car shop allowed to open next to a restaurant for instance - hard to enjoy a meal when the restaurant is sandwiched between two filthy shops -Hello Cheras, Puchong, PJ, ... pretty much any shop lots anywhere else). That alone sold me CJ. Finally a place that is well maintained and looked after.

I can understand the interest in older and more happening suburbs, with their many choices of restaurants, pubs and other hang out places -and I do enjoy doing there from time to time-, but gosh, how filthy and chaotic these can be! Horrible traffic to get in and out (with doubled or tripled-park vehicles to add insult to injury), shop lots poorly or not maintained at all, litter everywhere. Seems like nobody cares, or stopped caring a long time ago.

Most of the bad things people say about CJ, I actually consider them positive points. Ghost town? Great! It's quiet, no traffic jam, relaxing. Too many high rise? I actually prefer the convenience of condominiums over landed properties (which in Malaysia are designed in a way that one is forced to drive to do mundane tasks such as buying milk or having dinner out). No night life? I sleep early

The MNC, IT-centric businesses are icing on the cake for me as I work in this sector. By the way, I work in near KLCC, yet I chose to live in CJ. Just for the ones who think only people working in CJ would consider living in CJ. Just plain not true. I wouldn't swap my CJ condo for one located closer to my office. Distance is not the issue, commuting time is, and CJ is doing much better than one may think: MEX shrinks travel time to KL down to a similar level as living around Bukit Jalil (I know what I'm talking about, I used to drive BJ-KL every day, BJ can be even worse, as it is heavy traffic until you get onto the highway), and the ERL gets me to KL Sentral in under 20min.

I can't think of anything CJ is missing. Whatever may be is already under construction. It's been mentioned several times over already.

Forum is good for discussing and debating the pro and cons and bouncing the ideas.

For most who make up their mind (whether love or hate) will continue to put forward their views.

After the post above by CEDM naysayers will come in and repeat

- oversupplied with more than 20 towers undercon
- no chu yuk
- Expensive house, foods etc
- Pak Hitam
- Fail Silicon Valley
- etc etc

There are two sides of coin and for those who yet to make up their mind, just need to evaluate their needs.

My response to bro GKS below:-

Very constructive view with facts and info. Definitely represent the majority view from Cyberjaya residents or investors. Good one. Will mark and repost it again and again...as we expect same bashing ll come again too. Lol

go to cyberjaya...not putrajaya lol. Different place ya. Cyberjaya has immigration office

Ideally... residents should stay, work and play within the same vicinity for optimum efficiency of lifestyle.
However in Malaysia or Klang Valley particularly, where you work not translated to where you life where certain industries are concentrated in specific area. For example if you are in Oil And Gas industry, most likely the workplace will be in KL Vicinity.

Therefore, many townships the residents never work there.. Your remark above can be applied to Bukit Jelutong, Semenyih, Setia Alam etc etc... They have their own rational why they choose their abode and not focused on the proximity to workplace...

This post has been edited by gks: Sep 6 2017, 11:51 AM

CYBERJAYA: The City Centre project will transform Cyberjaya into a global technology hub and a smart city, said the Prime Minister.

Describing the mega project as a “game changer”, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak said that with a gross development value (GDV) of RM11bil, it would drive investment to Cyberjaya.

“It will provide the perfect ecosystem and a liveable location, involving mixed development.

“I was made to understand that development work for the first phase is well in progress, with a convention centre and hotel set to be completed in 2019,” said Najib during the celebration of Cyberjaya’s 20th anniversary yesterday.

Covering an area totalling 2.21ha, the GDV of its first phase is estimated to be at RM5.3bil.

Najib, who is also Finance Minister, said Cyberjaya has undergone a “remarkable transformation” in a span of 20 years.

“In 2016, technology companies in Cyberjaya generated revenue of over RM12.5bil. This is a 28% increase from the previous year. The total investments of these companies in 2016 reached over RM8bil,” said Najib.

During the event, 11 major announcements were made, including an Asia Big Data centre, a RM100mil project between Cyberview Sdn Bhd and Winhong Information Technology Corpora­tion.

“The setting up of this Big Data centre will be based on a cloud-based operating system. It will be built in five years and is expected to provide 500 jobs,” he said.

This post has been edited by ahkit123: Sep 6 2017, 02:34 PM

POSTED BY: RICHARD AUGUST 31, 2017

Cyberjaya and Putrajaya will be the pioneer cities in Malaysia to test a revolutionary new technology for electric vehicle (EV) buses that will allow the vehicles to fully charge their batteries in only 10 minutes.

This is a tremendous difference from the technology currently used in electric vehicles, where batteries must be left to charge overnight to be fully charged.

This pilot project, dubbed the “Putra NEDO EV Bus Project”, is the result of a collaboration between Putrajaya Corporation (PPj) and Japan’s New Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organisation (NEDO).

Federal Territories Ministry secretary-general Datuk Seri Adnan Md Ikshan was present to officially launch the project at Putrajaya Sentral.

“The ministry believes that the implementation of this demonstration project in Putrajaya will put us on track towards turning Putrajaya into a sustainable, low-carbon, and green city by 2025,” he said.

“We hope the operation of EV buses eventually results in the reduction of carbon dioxide emissions from the transportation sector in the city.”

NEDO executive director Makoto Watanabe said that this was the first ever demonstrative operation of Super Quick Charge (SQC) Large EV Buses in a city, worldwide.

Representing the Japanese Consortium of corporate partners involved in the project, Toshiba Infrastructure Systems and Solutions Corporation director and corporate vice-president Isao Aoki said some of the technology supporting this project was not even deployed in Japan yet.

“It is necessary to promote effective measures with a strong top-down policy to realise a green city, and I hope that Putrajaya can become the first model city in the world with zero-emission buses,” he said.

PPj president Datuk Seri Hasim Ismail said Putrajaya has eight of these single-decker buses, which began commercial operations in June, servicing two 23km routes in Putrajaya and Cyberjaya.

Hasim said they would add another two single-decker buses to the fleet by the end of the year, with an additional two double-decker buses sometime next year to be used mainly for tourism purposes.

The buses can run for up to 30km on a full charge before requiring to stop at an SQC terminal to recharge.

Three SQC terminals are located in Putrajaya Sentral with one more at the Bus Depot in Precinct 14.

While the technology for the battery is imported from Japan, the bus is manufactured, maintained and managed locally.

The new Cyberjaya City Centre will be the next mega project in the Klang Valley. Here are the 10 things you should know.

1. MRCB and Cyberview will Jointly Develop CCC

If you don’t already know, MRCB Land Sdn Bhd is the same company which develops KL Sentral CBD while Cyberview Sdn Bhd is now known as the Tech Hub Enabler land owner of Cyberjaya.

2. The Gross Development Value is Huge

The first phase is estimated to have a gross development value (GDV) of RM5.35 billion over a period of seven years.

3. The City Centre Area is Huge, too

The whole CCC covers around 21.6 hectares of land, that’s about the size of 49 football fields. That’s only for phase I. When the whole all have phases havebeen completed, it will cover around 53 hectares which is equivalent to around 120 football fields.

4. Integrated Rail and MRT Systems

What’s a city without an efficient transportation system? Cyberjaya will be integrated with the Sg Buloh – Putrajaya MRT line (with two dedicated stations) and KLIA Ekspres.

5. Construction Begin in 2016

The developers begin building the city the first half of 2016. Phase one will consist of commercial blocks, an integrated lifestyle and retail arena, serviced residential complexes and a convention centre. It’s happening sooner than you think.

6. A Travelator will Connect CCC and Putrajaya Sentral

An 800-metre long travelator will be built to connect CCC and Putrajaya Sentral. This is to make travel more seamless for commuters. The travelator will cross a wide highway that’s seperating CCC and the station.

7. It’s less than 25 minutes from KLIA and KLIA2

Businessmen and frequent travellers would like to do business in Cyberjaya City Centre due to its close proximity to the airport.

8. Green, Green and More Green

The city will be covered with greenery, is eco-friendly, has low carbon footprints and everything will be energy efficient.

9. It’s a “22nd Century City”

Forget about the 21st century, CCC will be the city of the future. Cyberview will be introducing new technologies for the city as it becomes one of the smartest cities in the world. Many things will be integrated with the web – think of it as the Internet of Things (IoT).

10. Cyberjaya will Have a Focal Point

Just like Kuala Lumpur’s City Centre, Cyberjaya will have its own focal point through CCC. It will bring more culture and soul to the city like never before.

This post has been edited by ahkit123: Sep 6 2017, 02:33 PM

Wow, didn't know got travellator to putrajaya sentral.

you forgot one thing, i.e. declining rent psf.

Enough said, investors can simply look at their rental yield, if they are happy, they are right about cyberjaya, otherwise they know.

All the own stayers need not worry since it's not investment but expenses.

make no mistake....Cyber thread like this divides debates into two distinct groups

cyber fansi - those actually vested in cyber.
cyber haters - those not vested in cyber.

and there are odd ones in between, like one that works in cyber, super fansi but cant afford cyber, and another one like cyber but not working in cyber therefore gave cyber a miss.

but funny why the TS who vested 5 properties in cyber decided to open this thread and talk about his concern over Cyber?

geng lah you....

HSR pun masuk dalam Cyber.

What else Cyber cant have? BBB Cyber.

declining property value as well especially studio units. generally everywhere losing value but some places like cyberjaya, rawang, semenyih is performing worse.

Thanks boss for the great clarity and great piece of sharing.
The SJKC Union by 2018 is already a confirmed thing?

I think he just listed out the target completion year of all rail projects (not only those related to CJ) for our comparison and information, as ECRL and MRT 3 are not related to CJ also.

But I would not say it is totally wrong to link HSR with CJ since one of the stops of HSR is planned to be located in Putrajaya.

Judging from their site progress below, it is very likely the school will be opened in 2018.

TS pressing panic button because he owned 2 at cyberia, and from what i observed, many tenant moved out from cyberia, which is why you saw lotsa banned hanging for sale/rent in cyberia.. due to slow market and lotsa vped, tenant have more choice, and could enjoy new facilities on newly vped developments.. which is why cyberia in a glut, but still some smart owner who knew the market well, and understand what the tenant needs could still rent out their cyberia at good gain.. because on rental competitive, cyberia still gaining..

cyber fansi, i dont agree that because they vested in cyber, so they sell hard cyber.. its because many outsider are giving false impression, if you stay in cyber, you could notice that most newly vped developments are having very good occupancy..

like icy comment, mana boleh accept one? 20WIP tower in cyber? and the info she get from NAPIC sepang? look like she's not even malaysian, sepang is a huge area, puchong south is part of sepang too.. and not to say kota warisan there, and KLIA area.. even D'Island is part of sepang too.. then bandar baru salak tinggi.. saujana putra.. bandar enstek.. so info of 20 WIP in cyberjaya but actually its in sepang is really a big joke..

also her comment on cyber population need to double or triple within 1-2 years or will face acute oversupply is really a big joke.. maybe she had a history record of a township that population double or triple in short period..

last, cyber is not suitable for fast flippers.. so in short term investment wise, should stay away.. but cyber definitely have a very bright future

This post has been edited by Cabinda: Sep 6 2017, 04:51 PM

bright future ? based on what track records ? to me cyberjaya is dying slowly.