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Cabinda
post Sep 5 2017, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 5 2017, 02:56 PM)
bukit beruntung was advertised/promoted as 2nd pj, many facilities were planned and residential were sold out.

there are many similarities in hope/vision between cbj and bukit beruntung.
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then you worry less at cyber, because cyber is not WERE PLANNED facilities, cyber already built all the facilities, then only residential come in..
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:04 PM

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Korean school operating in Sep 16 will definitely boost up the Korean community in cyberjaya.
With the King Henry school that starting in 2018 also, more international community under built here.
Personally still think best buy in cyber are landed.

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I wonder why they choose CJ, a well known private school from UK, repo on the line.

Honestly I think Bangsar, MK or damansara would be the safer choice of location to establish their 1st branch outside UK.

Besides, Malaysia 1st Korean school were opened last year sept.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2...006200315F.html

why CJ ? hmm.gif I will choose ampang or MK if u ask me.
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Sep 5 2017, 02:55 PM)
what you wanna tell is, the people are earning money during the 2011 - 2014, and from now until 2030 everybody who running business are doing deficit business, and more and more people are doing lost business on which the GDP by gomen are fake, cpi are all fake data.. and everybody are spending the money that they earn during 2011-2014, and you predicted their earning during those time will depleted during 2030 and all the land around KV become waste land? everybody need to start back from stone age? where barter system start back again?
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No, suggest you read economy before you shoot foolishly.

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post Sep 5 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 5 2017, 03:04 PM)
No, suggest you read economy before you shoot foolishly.
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lol... this is what i wanted to tell you.. look at 1H data.. gdp and cpi all up.. oh.. u dont have thread on economy.. so u didnt read abt it? i suggest u google it, info definately more accurate than lyn
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Sep 5 2017, 03:07 PM)
lol... this is what i wanted to tell you.. look at 1H data.. gdp and cpi all up.. oh.. u dont have thread on economy.. so u didnt read abt it? i suggest u google it, info definately more accurate than lyn
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What is the correlation between kv property and gdp/cpi you mentioned for the last few years?

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post Sep 5 2017, 03:10 PM

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[quote=Soros007,Sep 5 2017, 03:04 PM]
Korean school operating in Sep 16 will definitely boost up the Korean community in cyberjaya.
With the King Henry school that starting in 2018 also, more international community under built here.
Personally still think best buy in cyber are landed.

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I wonder why they choose CJ, a well known private school from UK, repo on the line.

Honestly I think Bangsar, MK or damansara would be the safer choice of location to establish their 1st branch outside UK.

Besides, Malaysia 1st Korean school were opened last year sept.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2...006200315F.html

why CJ ? hmm.gif I will choose ampang or MK if u ask me.
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Is it? Later you can find korean milf there hngghh brows.gif
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 5 2017, 03:09 PM)
What is the correlation between kv property and gdp/cpi you mentioned for the last few years?
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aduh... wondering are u business student or what?
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 5 2017, 01:52 PM)
you have to look at overall statistic, i don't have the numbers, if you have please share.

But my gutfeel tells me that anyone who works in KL surely has better deals elsewhere compared to Cyberjaya.
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hey bro, u give on your comments based on your gutfeel but im staying in CJ. and I have lots of frens working in CJ too. many CJ resident working in KL, many KL people working in CJ for years...travelling is never an issue for either party.

The gap between us is, u think CJ is not liveable (mayb CJ is really not your cup of tea, I understand) but CJ is totally liveable for many people, else it wont make sense for so many govt and private schools setup in CJ.

I don't have the numbers or statistic, but night traffic flow and population obviously increasing.
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[quote=Dominic_Cobb,Sep 5 2017, 03:10 PM]
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Is it? Later you can find korean milf there hngghh brows.gif
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what is MILF stand for ? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 5 2017, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Cabinda @ Sep 5 2017, 03:00 PM)
then you worry less at cyber, because cyber is not WERE PLANNED facilities, cyber already built all the facilities, then only residential come in..
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cbj infrastructures were largely built 20 years ago, not recently. if infrastructure is the factor for people to choose cbj, housing demand in cbj should be high prior to 2011, not that residential were not available or there was a shortage.

QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 03:30 PM)
hey bro, u give on your comments based on your gutfeel but im staying in CJ. and I have lots of frens working in CJ too. many CJ resident working in KL, many KL people working in CJ for years...travelling is never an issue for either party.

The gap between us is, u think CJ is not liveable (mayb CJ is really not your cup of tea, I understand) but CJ is totally liveable for many people, else it wont make sense for so many govt and private schools setup in CJ.

I don't have the numbers or statistic, but night traffic flow and population obviously increasing.
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Population in almost every place increase at about population growth rate. At this rate, over supply in cbj could take over 10 years to be fully occupied.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 5 2017, 03:45 PM)
cbj infrastructures were largely built 20 years ago, not recently.
Population in almost every place increase at about population growth rate. At this rate, over supply in cbj could take over 10 years to be fully occupied.
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U got it wrong dude. It will take forever to fully occupied, not 10 years. Lol
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 5 2017, 03:45 PM)
cbj infrastructures were largely built 20 years ago, not recently.
Population in almost every place increase at about population growth rate. At this rate, over supply in cbj could take over 10 years to be fully occupied.
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ur comments just show u don't understand property investment and u never observe how population growth in other town and yet u portrait yourself as an expert. just silly to assume population growth in a constant rate.

and again, nobody said CJ is the best but CJ is liveable that's why total population grow.

that's why so many ppl skip ur comments


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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 03:56 PM)
ur comments just show u don't understand property investment and u never observe how population growth in other town and yet u portrait yourself as an expert. just silly to assume population growth in a constant rate.

and again, nobody said CJ is the best but CJ is liveable that's why total population grow.

that's why so many ppl skip ur comments
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Perhaps you could share with us the population growth rate in cbj. how fast and big is the growth compare with other areas e.g. semenyih, puchong, etc?

unless cbj population could be doubled and tripled in 3 and 5 years time respectively, over supply in cbj will be acute.

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post Sep 5 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 03:30 PM)
hey bro, u give on your comments based on your gutfeel but im staying in CJ. and I have lots of frens working in CJ too. many CJ resident working in KL, many KL people working in CJ for years...travelling is never an issue for either party.

The gap between us is, u think CJ is not liveable (mayb CJ is really not your cup of tea, I understand) but CJ is totally liveable for many people, else it wont make sense for so many govt and private schools setup in CJ.

I don't have the numbers or statistic, but night traffic flow and population obviously increasing.
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ofcause it's livable, but that wasn't the point if you actually read properly.
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post Sep 5 2017, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 5 2017, 04:06 PM)
ofcause it's livable, but that wasn't the point if you actually read properly.
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I think I didn't make my point clear, CJ not only liveable but it has own unique selling point too. This is to counter your point when u said surely have better deals compare to CJ. Your point direct and indirectly insisted that ppl choose to stay in CJ only because of job opportunity, but what I know is not
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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 04:14 PM)
I think I didn't make my point clear, CJ not only liveable but it has own unique selling point too. This is to counter your point when u said surely have better deals compare to CJ. Your point direct and indirectly insisted that ppl choose to stay in CJ only because of job opportunity, but what I know is not
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What would you expect from a 'property expert' that compares Cyberjaya to Bukit Beruntung biggrin.gif

Ok, this thread definitely gonna get moved to kopitiam tongue.gif
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post Sep 5 2017, 04:51 PM

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I also wish this thread move to kopitiam rather than spreading false " property expert " point of view..
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QUOTE(jetwash @ Sep 5 2017, 04:49 PM)
What would you expect from a 'property expert' that compares Cyberjaya to Bukit Beruntung  biggrin.gif

Ok, this thread definitely gonna get moved to kopitiam  tongue.gif
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biggest joke created by Icy, when CJ is over supply like the bukit beruntung 20 years ago, just because 1 criteria match bukit beruntung, then CJ will share the same fate like bukit berunting in history...bkt berunting have Chinese sch, private sch, hospital 20 years ago kah ?

CJ have international school and Korean, why not we say soon CJ will be MK ? lol

CJ have PH , subang have PH too...then CJ will become a place like subang ? wow rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 05:00 PM)
biggest joke created by Icy, when CJ is over supply like the bukit beruntung 20 years ago, just because 1 criteria match bukit beruntung, then CJ will share the same fate like bukit berunting in history...bkt berunting have Chinese sch, private sch, hospital 20 years ago kah ?

CJ have international school and Korean, why not we say soon CJ will be MK ? lol

CJ have PH , subang have PH too...then CJ will become a place like subang ? wow  rclxm9.gif
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Bukit Beruntung will always be legendary for its flats auctioned off at 5k reserve price biggrin.gif

My understanding of Cyberjaya is simple, there was a rental-driven residential shortage circa 2007 - 2010 or so, and that's when greedy developers jumped on the bandwagon by offering a glut of high-end properties and ridiculously priced one-bedroom studios. Had the developer strategy been somewhat 'milder' like Setia Alam, Putra Heights etc, we would not probably be in such oversupply. Although Cyberjaya had never been positioned as a residential enclave anyway in the earlier days.
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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 04:14 PM)
I think I didn't make my point clear, CJ not only liveable but it has own unique selling point too. This is to counter your point when u said surely have better deals compare to CJ. Your point direct and indirectly insisted that ppl choose to stay in CJ only because of job opportunity, but what I know is not
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if they (the majority) do not have a job nearby, what are the reasons the majority choose to stay in Cyberjaya?

If jobs in Cyberjaya does not attract the MAJORITY & LONG TERM tenants to stay there, what does?

I hope you know who are the MAJORITY residence profile first before your reply to avoid stumbling like previously.

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