who said psf not dropping, are you forget to minus the rebate up to 30%, 

Average transacted price of landed homes in Dengkil in 2017 is lower than in 2013.

https://dbv47yu57n5vf.cloudfront.net/s3fs-p...75_locked_0.pdf

Denkil is not cj but neighboring and closer to klia and dftz that heavily promoted by some in this tread.

We are now in 2018, 2017 number is the latest available and closest to current.

Property investment is a zero sum game, vendors sold in 2016 were happy, what about buyers? Current price is irrelevant to those vendor that had sold but not current owners.

Average may not be individual unit price but is indicative or generalized. Individual price could be higher as well as lower than the average price.

At current market sentiment with rising bank interest rate and liquidity tightening, property price is on down trend. In buyers market, fair price would be the price buyer is willing to pay.

In the long term, residential property price rise at about inflation rate; nominal value needs not drop for real value to be cheaper.

Most bought property with bank loan, marginal price rise below loan interest incurred in the same period is a financial loss.

Property investment is a zero sum game, vendor's gain is buyer's loss and vv.

"Home" is the utility value owning/renting a residential property.

If one approach KLIA from the north (by air) could observe amount of land available between cyberjaya and Puchong, and surrounding area. It will takes many years for these lands to be used up. Besides, redevelopment is an option; hence, established cities (e.g. KL, PJ, London, New York, Shanghai, etc) has yet to run out of land for development.

People wages didn't rise inline or faster than inflation rate is another subject altogether.

Kv will not reach Beijing gdp, population or gdp/capital in next 20 years. If you insist to compare with Beijing will find relative property price in 3rd ring road (i.e kl) and 5th ring road (i.e cbj) in Beijing, current cbj price is unsustainable and way over priced.

if your kids grow up thinking parents will buy them property or have one ready for them, then you need to replace your kids with more down to earth kids.

whats next after given the house to them? they want to have your saving and wealth as well.....

teach your kids to fish, not given them fish.

Its not a zero sum game.
My property from 200k go to 300k, tell me who lost out on 100k when I sell? Before that 200k, it was 40k before development, and before that 15k before a road came by. (numbers are not actual, just for example)

I agree that "Home" not really related to zero sum theory part of it, but if you gotta pay rental, might as well pay to yourself no?

If you are prepared, its possible. I use my uncle as example. Some time back he leverage mati mati and for some reason did not want to unload it. I cant recall the exact details, but due to one property deal that didnt go thru, he couldnt pay others which had a domino effect until bankrupt. Some he been paying for a while (rented it) also mati, those went cheap cos if it was worth 1mil, and he already serviced 35%, the bank sold it for way below 1mil. then that money went into other debts that were recalled/late and they also sold and so on... (dont know exact numbers, details never discussed)

If you wanna wait for cheap, you have to prepare for it, and wait for teruk teruk economy then can. But you yourself must be careful of your own existing assets.

Alternative was like a relative, bought a cyberjaya condo at x year with x-3 year price (basically developer price) cos the original owner had financial/financing issues. By then it was a few months to completion and the surrounding was more developer... confirm make money. No insider contact, just normal asking their sales people at right time. Renting well now. I was like, walau anymore for me or not?

Taking 20+ years condo in kl and cbj, current nominal price is probably lower than real price and less desirable to live . if similar market perception continue, to buy for next generation may not be wise.
When vendor paid $200k and sold $300k, vendor's gain of $100k is buyer's loss in zero sum game. Similarly for your cbj purchase i.e. vendor's loss is your gain.

How will ccc transform cbj? Add more shopping mall space to oversupply in kv? Mrt will complete in 2022, how many flippers could sustain until 2022?

Which city, town or area prosperous without been crowded?

When has land become cheap?

If they dun need to feed and dress you everyday maybe they are  millionaires now.

Nothing is easy....before now and future. If its so cheap before why then not everyone is millionaiires by now....

Cristal 3 storey Villa Superlink auction price from RM823k indeed a good buy over all the completed houses in Cyberjaya. Even SP Setia new launches 2 storey at RM960k (22x80)

Nett price for non-bumi.
Bumi price is RM866k

They actually have 22x80 and 24x80 but the latter one fully sold

Mean vendor is incurring losses on bank interest.

I fully understand the objection of strata act. It'll be RM50K soon for bankruptcy.
But even now, there is nothing U can do if defaulters don't pay - as their house is vacant. That's Y I see a long list of about 20 defaulters in Lepironia East Garden which has only about 100 semi Ds.

Now easier to take action on defaulters ? Ask Ah Long gangsters to go splash red paint on the house they r staying ?

I thought only financial institutions are able to blacklist individuals for not paying thier credit card bills or housing loans, car loans, etc ? It's messy and subject to abuse if any company like developer, can do that. Didn't pay your indah water bills - will IW go blacklist U ? What about Maxis, Astro bills, etc ? They can't blasklist U, right ?

Come those looking for landed unit. No taker. Pics below is actual pics of the unit.

3 Storey Superlink@ Cristal Serin, Cyberjaya

Land 1916sf, Built up 3075sf, 5rooms 4baths, Freehold
Market Value: RM1.2mil.
New reserve price: RM823K
Auction Date: 26 Mac 18
*non bumi unit*

In the long-term, residential property price rise at about inflation rate and many neglected bank interest incurred is a cost. Total cost of owning a property could be more than double of purchase price.

Like all assets, price could drop from oversupply. Most bought property with leverage, pressure on price drop would be greater especially bank interest rate is rising.

With so many units available for rental, sure can get good rental income?