Rudiger too

H for sure

H is far scarier. And if they draw Celtic too...

Real>Atletico

Dortmund/Spurs>Roma

not arguing that salah is better than willian but winning doesn't necessarily mean better

would you pick Nicky Butt over Steven Gerrard just because one has multiple league winner medals and the other has none?

This post has been edited by Cloud0890: Aug 28 2017, 12:51 PM

Which is weird because according to Salah it was Mourinho's personal call to him that persuaded him to move to Chelsea.

Passing and playmaking isn't exactly his strongest attributes.

Apparently Pochettino wants him as the long term replacement for Dembele which makes sense. Barkley's at his best when he is charging forward with the ball like a bull. Dembele's role is essentially a ball carrier that bridges the defence and offence. He is not the one who makes the final pass nor is he asked to ping a 40 yard cross field pass, his job is to carry the ball to transition from defence to offence. Does seem like a role that would suit Barkley best as he's been proven time and time again at Everton that he lacks the end product in the final third.

This post has been edited by Cloud0890: Aug 29 2017, 07:07 PM

Personally don't think Barkley is a good fit for Chelsea. He is quite overrated anyways. I would've Ox in midfield over Barkley.

Yes Keita is official.

As flattered as I am as a Liverpool fan that players actually want to join us now, I don't understand Ox's logic at all. There's no way he is getting in ahead of Can, Hendo, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Coutinho and Keita next season at Liverpool in his preferred midfield position. Heck we still have Milner we signed and promised to play in midfield but was a winger in his first year, a left back in his second and now a backup central midfielder in his third. We don't play with wingbacks either so there's no place for him there. He will most likely be a backup winger to Salah and Mane if he joins us.

He doesn't want to play wingback for Arsenal and doesn't want to play wingback for Chelsea which looks most likely to be his position here. But I would argue that he has a better chance of breaking into this Chelsea midfield over Liverpool's simply because of the lack of depth. Correct me if I'm wrong, your main options in midfield are Kante, Bakayoko and Cesc yes?

This post has been edited by Cloud0890: Aug 30 2017, 09:16 AM

Yup exactly my thoughts. Not only does he have more overall game time at Chelsea in the WB position, it's also easier for him to get into your midfield.

If he truly wants only to play in midfield he needs to go to a club outside the top 6.

There's no bid from Liverpool yet and there's no telling if Arsenal will even accept our bid because there is still bad blood from the Suarez 40,000,001 saga.

There's been contact from Liverpool with the player's side all summer but there was no concrete offer, not even an enquiry. I suppose if he really wants to move to Liverpool he could just play out his final year at Arsenal then move on a free.

Yeah and I think we all can agree that Lemar is better than Ox but Lemar is also much more expensive.

As for Coutinho, I could see us selling him for the reported 160m Euros if we can bring in Lemar. But we're supposedly still insisting that we're not selling him whatever the offer. That could be a ploy to not let any potential selling clubs for our Coutinho replacement jack up their price by too much. Regardless though, even if we don't sell Coutinho this summer, I could see PSG moving for him next year even if Barca might no longer be interested by then.

No one knows if the offer is still on the table but club mouthpieces are saying the club's stance has been the same since the beginning which is not selling.

But judging from how we're splashing the cash at the moment, 70m+ for Lemar and potentially 70m+ for Van Dijk, I'm inclined to think that the offer is on the table and kept under wraps until we can secure our replacements. If we can't then it's likely that he won't leave.

As much as I love Coutinho, there's no way he is worth that much money especially for a player whose head is gone. Barca's offer is frankly quite insane provided it doesn't include those retarded addons like Coutinho winning Balon d'Or and treble or both in the same season.

Bild reports Chelsea is making an effort to sign Rafinha from Bayern

He will be the new Milner for us. Ox for LB!

I know. And as a Liverpool, I can't brain either. I don't mind him, he is a decent player but I don't think he will be getting what he wants.

I don't buy that story. Dembele was said to be the replacement for Neymar and Coutinho is for Iniesta. If so, why on earth would they want another winger when they already have Denis Suarez and Deulofeu as backups.

Not them either.

David Ornstein on Twitter: "The club Riyad Mahrez has left the Algeria squad to sign for is... not Arsenal. #AFC are not in contention for the #LCFC winger #bbcfootball"

It's said to be Barca but I don't understand Mahrez as an alternative to Coutinho when Coutinho was meant to be Iniesta replacement.

Premier League clubs are conspiring in an effort to get Conte to quit in anger.