siasatan belum dibuat. so jangan memfitnah. Dosa fitnah tu lebih besar daripada zina. Zina boleh minta ampung dosa. Fitnah tu kena dimaafkan si difitnah dulu.

so sekarang semua allegation sahaja. Apa kita semua sebut ni kemungkinan. Mungkin memang betul UMNO yang buat, atau mungkin benar, ini angkara Pakatan sendiri atau perbuatan kelompok Reformasi yang sangat anti Mahathir. Kiter tak tahu lagi.

Agree.

"What do you think would have happened today had Najib turned up and 5,000 Umno supporters came with him to face the 1,500 PPBM supporters?"
"And on that day many Chinese will run away to Singapore for a few days, just in case, and will return to Malaysia only when things are calm again."
"DAP wants to see Malays fight Malays to the death"
"The Chinese know that what they saw today is what they are going to see in the next general election."

Below is a Bernama report with regards to an accident involving Tian Chua’s car, which resulted in the death of a Malay soldier. And below that Bernama report is a posting by a pro-Umno Blog, Malaysia Instinct.

The Bernama report said that Tian Chua’s car hit a motorcycle and the rider, a soldier, died. It seems the car went out of control. The driver of Tian Chua’s car is Malay while Tian Chua was sitting in the back seat of the car.

Malaysia Instinct’s posting, however, is titled: Tian Chua bunuh askar Melayu (Tian Chua killed a Malay soldier). Malaysia Instinct goes on to say: Manalah kita tahu kan kot-kot Tian Chua sengaja membunuh askar berkenaan. (Who knows, maybe Tian Chua killed the soldier on purpose). It also asks: Sengaja dilanggar atau sebaliknya? (Was it on purpose or otherwise?)

If this was a posting by a pro-opposition Blog, rest assured the police would take action immediately. But since this is a pro-Umno Blog, for sure nothing is going to be done about it.

Tian Chua was not driving the car. His Malay driver was. In fact, Tian Chua was sitting in the back seat of the car. How could Tian Chua have killed a Malay soldier when he was not driving? And how could Tian Chua, therefore, have killed the soldier on purpose when he was not even in control of the car?

I really do not wish to comment any more on what Malaysia Instinct posted. You can read the rest yourself. Suffice to say that this is yet another of the many racial rhetoric that the Umno people are embarking on to fan the sentiments of the Malays.

It looks like these Umno Malays really want to see another race riot the likes of ‘May 13’ explode. They hope that if it does then the Malays who support the opposition would return to Umno and unite under the banner of Umno.

Does Umno really want to see another ‘May 13’ happen? Do they think that if it does happen then Umno will regain Malay support? This time, if another race riot does explode, it is going to be bigger and worse than what happened on 13 May 1969. That, I can assure you!

‘May 13’ was, in a way, an ‘accident’. It was not planned to be what it turned out to be. It was a scheme that went out of control, much to the horror of the planners who thought they could start a fire and then control it. But they could not control it. After it had been started they could no longer control it and it burned beyond the expectations of even the planners.

But now the people are ready. They know that Umno is fanning the sentiments of the Malays and is playing the race card to meet this objective. Malaysians are not going to be caught sleeping like they were on 13 May 1969.

Umno is playing a dangerous game. The next ‘May 13’ is not going to be the same ‘May 13’ as in 1969. This next ‘May 13’, if Umno succeeds in its plan, is going to be a civil war.

And it is not going to be a civil war of Malays versus non-Malays. It is going to be a civil war of Malays, Chinese and Indians versus Umno Malays. Yes, the Umno Malays are going to be alone against a united force of opposition Malays, Chinese and Indians. The Chinese and Indians from MCA, Gerakan, MIC, PPP and so on will not come to Umno’s aid. Umno is going to be left all alone.

Take it from me that the Chinese and Indians from the non-Umno component parties in Barisan Nasional will ‘abstain’ and will not participate in the next ‘May 13’. They will lock their doors and windows and will stay indoors and will not take to the streets. Only the Umno Malays will be on the streets. And the Umno Malays will not be facing the Chinese and Indians. They will be facing a united force of Malays, Chinese and Indians.

Umno, make my day. Try it. Try it and see what happens. Since 1999, Umno has been threatening the Chinese and Indians with another ‘May 13’ if they support the opposition. And the threat was made ‘live’ on television during the launching of the Barisan Nasional election campaign in the Bukit Jalil Stadium in November 1999.

In 1999 it worked. The Malays voted opposition while the Chinese and Indians stayed with Barisan Nasional out of fear. The fact that Umno sent army trucks to ‘patrol’ the Chinese and Indian areas made it more worrying for the non-Malays to give their vote to the opposition.

But on 8 March 2008 that all changed. The Chinese and Indians no longer feared Umno. They did not worry about another ‘May 13’. They knew that if another ‘May 13’ does happen it would no longer be Malays versus Chinese and Indians. It would be Umno versus Malays, Chinese and Indians. That was why the non-Malays took that bold step to vote for the opposition.

So, Umno, do what you must do. And if you want to start ‘May 13 Version 2’ then so be it. We are ready. The Chinese and Indians do not need to take to the streets. Stay indoors and lock your doors and windows. Let the Malays deal with this. We Malays will take on Umno in the ‘May 13 version 2’.

But of course, if you want to join us you are most welcome. Then we will kick Umno’s arse and bury them in their graves once and for all. Then Malaysia will thereafter be a very peaceful country with no more threats of another ‘May 13’.

You stop the plague by killing the rats. So you need to stop the plague of racism by killing the Umno rats. There are no two ways about it.

Maybe we do need another ‘May 13’ after all. We need another ‘May 13’ to prevent any further May 13s from ever happening in future. As they said in Europe 100 years ago: a war to end all wars. Do we also need a ‘May 13’ to end all May 13s?

The ball is at Umno’s feet. It is their call. Sekiranya saudara jual, maka saya beli. Don’t keep talking about ‘May 13’. We are tired of your threats. Just do it. Do it and see what will happen. This time we are ready, not like last time in 1969.

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An army private died when his motorcycle collided with a car with Batu parliamentarian Tian Chua in it at KM49 Jalan Johor Baru-Mersing near Hutan Lipur Panti, near Kota Tinggi, yesterday.

Kota Tinggi police district chief Supt Osman Mohammad Sebot said the incident happened at about 9pm when the private, Mohd Salleh Hamdan, 22, who was attached to the Iskandar Camp, Mersing was on his way to Kota Tinggi, while Tian Chua was headed towards Mersing after attending a get-together in Kota Tinggi.

“Tian Chua’s driver, Zaharuddin Ayob, 45, who is also PKR Batu division information chief, is believed to have lost control of the Mercedes driven by him which went into the other lane and collided with the motorcycle,” Osman said when contacted here today.

He said Zaharuddin and Tian Chua, who was in the back seat, were not injured.

He said police only detained Zaharuddin to help in investigation.

Osman said another motorcycle that was coming from the direction of Mersing also hit Mohd Salleh’s motorcycle but the rider, Mohd Zairi Mansor, 29, only had light injuries. – Bernama

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Tian Chua bunuh askar Melayu

Oleh: Satu Hala, Malaysia Instinct

Agak kasar bukan tajuk rencana di atas.

Namun, kalau pegawai-pegawai SPRM Melayu cuba diwarnakan dengan perkauman dalam kematian Teoh Beng Hock dahulu, apa salahnya jika kita memberikan label yang sama ke atas Tian Chua?

Siapa tahu, mungkin pada malam kejadian itu pada Jumaat lalu apa yang terdetik di hati Tian Chua?

Kejadian yang mengorbankan askar Melayu itu, Mohd. Salleh Hamdan, 22, berlaku di Jalan Johor Bahru-Mersing berhampiran Hutan Lipur Panti berhampiran Kota Tinggi, Johor.

Mungkin askar itu menunggang motosikalnya di tengah jalan sedikit menyebabkan Tian Chua yang ingin sampai cepat ke ceramah Anwar Ibrahim tidak mahu mengelak.

Manalah kita tahu kan kot-kot Tian Chua sengaja membunuh askar berkenaan.

Disebabkan kita semua tidak berada di tempat kejadian, maka kita tidak boleh ambil kejadian itu atas face value semata-mata bahawa ia adalah kemalangan yang tidak disengajakan seperti yang nyatakan Tian Chua.

Mungkin juga ada misteri lain di sebalik apa yang berlaku itu.

Macam juga kononnya ada misteri di sebalik kematian Beng Hock, mungkin askar Melayu yang dilanggar mati Tian Chua juga ada punca lain.

Sengaja dilanggar atau sebaliknya?

Mungkin dakwaan di atas melampau, merepek dan sukar dibuktikan, namun persoalannya sekarang apa agaknya perasaan Tian Chua jika dituduh membunuh askar itu?

Apakah dia buat selamba aje selepas membunuh satu nyawa yang tidak berdosa?

Pembangkang kalau hendak mewujudkan persoalan dan kononnya misteri, maka mereka ini memang pakar.

Kalau kena batang hidung sendiri pandai pulak mengelak.

Sama macam ADUN DAP Sekinchan yang langgar pelajar Melayu sampai koma baru-baru ini.

Apa pun, bagi penulis, satu yang pasti ialah Tian Chua paling kurang perlu didakwa memandu dalam keadaan merbahaya dan kematian tanpa niat.

Persoalan pendakwaan itu memang tidak boleh dinafikan kerana nyawa seorang askar Melayu sudah pun melayang dan pihak yang menyebabkan kematiannya secara tidak sengaja harus diambil tindakan.

Untuk penyokong PKR, jangan kerana yang melanggar itu Tian Chua maka dia tidak boleh diambil tindakan.

Jangan cakap itu konspirasi kerajaan pulak.

Undang-undang menetapkan kalau langgar orang lain sampai mati, maka orang yang melanggar itu perlu didakwa dan diambil tindakan.

Tidak guna bertekak lagi

What do you mean by sincere? I think they want to defeat BN because then they are in position of power. Whether they want to do that for the sake of the citizens of for themselves or for a mix of both is seperate, but I think they sincerely want to be in position of power.

Current people in power also about corruption and cronyism though, and I think opposition will have some degree of that too. I think it's harder to avoid in malaysian political system because of the governance and political structure. But back to the principle point that you were making, the idea that, although not spoken, but is understood, is that mahathir was prolly corrupt, they know it but principally they can take him and not allow him to continue to be corrupt, the past is the past, past is important but future is more important.

In the hacker scenario, it's more akin to hiring that hacker but that hacker has stage 4 cancer. Mahathir won't be around for that much longer plus you don't know what they have or have not agreed on. They probably have some agreements and understanding. Personally I think mahathir wants to protect and secure his people (his cronys, children, etc), I don't think he wants to build an empire like he did before. 1 is iffy but tolerable the other is a problem.

Same as in still has his wits and intellect sure, but mahathir back then had power, mahathir today doesn't, at least not to the same extent.

yes? No one is stupid enough to give 700mil to one person.

Saudi Royal family already mentioned that's their donation in the hope that Malaysia continue to be a moderate country (what they really mean is for Malaysia to support them when the need arises). They would rather UMNO continue to lead Malaysia than lets say Pakatan's Anwar who is leaning toward Islamic Brotherhood and Turkey. This is a totally reasonable donation from Saudi.

If you are accusing the Royal Family of Saudi of lying and obstruction of justice I would suggest you direct the accusation directly to the Saudi authority.

Also if I am to compare what the Royal family of Saudi said versus the words coming from Pakatan leaders, I will take the words of the Saudi Royal anything. Pakatun leaders have been caught lying multiple times to suit their power hungry needs. So yeah what is there not to believe.

I believe Saudi royal's words than Pakatan leader's words. You can deduce what ever you like from the sentence.

1 million of vulgar words towards UMNO will not going to change the fact that recent incident is a prove Pribumi has shown to the non malay citizen that this is what Pakatun offered to them if they vote for Pakatun

it also shows to the malay citizen how insecure Tun M is as he is proven definitely could not answer properly all the question towards him, instead he gave diversion & dogded the question will rethoric answer

Remember, Tun Mahathir is 1 of the top leader in Pakatun heirarchy, & whats happened back then is a proof of how fragile & dangerous Pribumi is

this fragile, hooligan & insecure party is what DAP have to bare to face voters in the next GE..so, gudluck to u guys..seriously, luck is what u guys really needed the most this time around, Pribumi is seriously unlike any other party that DAP have joint in hand befur as theyre full of fragile & hooligan people

lulz

i told u, broken tape recorder man

its not just me who believe & have no prob with saudi gave donation

please, laugh at all u mean to us..but actually, u need to laugh at almost 70% of total muslim community becos we mostly believe the news as we understand saudi more than u know

so dun forget to laugh at all of muslim in malaysia yaa

it didnt hurt us a bit at all actually, so we wont mind..the more u laugh, the more we muslim are determined that Pakatan will become more hostile towards Saudi if Pakatn win GE & its no good to us as this will jeopardized our relationship & the generosity & privilege Saudi gave to us all this while especially related to Hajj Pilgrimage

so please, laugh hard..laugh very, very hard....

well, this is where u wrong..its really got to do with strong Malaysia-Saudi relationship & the generous+privilege Saudi gave to Muslim in Malaysia when we come to Saudi Arabis especially Makkah & Madinah..its a Muslim brotherhood thingy,msomething u will never understand as u are not a Muslim anyway..there are no problem with Saudi gave donation to Najib to his personal account as there's no connection to any kickback whatsoever (even u also cant proof that Saudi ask something in return in terms of kickbacks/gomen contracts/etc2), only our determination to support Saudi in fighting Muslim extremist..nope, u will not understand this at all..

yesss yessss

keep on laughing

make a bigger meme jpeg

thats not big enough

it shud be bigger

bnetter if u put MUSLIM or MALAY MUSLIM in the middle of it..then i will help u spread ur laughing message to malay muslim community to show that this is what Malay muslim will get when they vote Pakatan..Malay Muslim relationship with Saudi official will be at jeopardy & we may also lost most if not all of the privileges that Saudi once gave to us before especially Hajj thingy becos u resemble what Pakatan Harapan is & what Pakatan Harapan will offer..

please, go ahead

any bigger laughing picture u have? thats not big enough

Uhm.. regardless whether it's donation or not.. do u mean the usd700m doesn't not exist and fabricated?

thats why i said u didnt understand Muslim opinion about this donation, nor did u understand the relationship malay muslim had with saudi

u are too naive to understand it..thats why its very hard for u to believe that many muslim dun have any problem when saudi donated money to najib

even Malay Pakatan politician wont dare to politicise to the max this donation thingy towards malay community as they know the backlash from malay community they will received if they didnt careful

ur meme is not big enough

dun u have any bigger laugh meme? the bigger the better

if its from arabs oil rich country, imma deadly, seriously believe that its a donation

now, can u proof that saudi did had sumthing in return from malaysian gomen through najib after the saudi give money to najib (shoddy billions RM of business deal, gomen projects, etc2)..?????

can u show any proof...???

You realise you are trying to talk sense to a self-avowed racist, nationalist, and religious fanatic? Its like trying to reason with Hitler... sounds good, doesn't work

oh please.

you really believe that muslim brotherhood thing?

(no not that muslim botherhood or ikhwanul muslimin for those of you who think keown83 here is talking about the very muslim brotherhood/ikhwanul muslimin that the Saudis actually hate so much they are boycotting Qatar bcos they claim Qatar are supporting Ikhwanul Muslimin).

the haj quota was raised not bcos of "our muslim brotherhood" with Saudi, but bcos they finished the construction that limited the no. of pilgrims.

ALL COUNTRIES had their hajj quota slashed, only this year they raised it back to original level.

yes Malaysia got a few thousand extra.

but India (yes the Hindu majority country India) got even more compared to us.



and while we (Malaysian GLC aka Prasarana) get the contract to manage that MRT system connecting Makkah to Musdalifah/Mina/Arafah, unfortunately our own pilgrims can't even use it bcos the Saudis only allow their people to use it.

so much for muslim brotherhood.