hi guys, currently thinking of getting the new polo 1.6 mpi, will it less troublesome (eg:gearbox problem) if compared with the old tsi version?

currently driving one.
it's a good car to drive..

so far the downside is not much pick-up power, specially when uphill.
other than this..
superb, FC also very good but this is depends on how heavy your foot are.

Also depend on how thick is your shoe sole

When I drive I terus slot it into S instead of D, unless I want to use manual mode (which is also slow and pretty useless)

Only when cruising I switch back to D. D is really lembik - upshifts too soon and reluctant to downshift.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 10 2017, 10:50 AM

Pretty much applicable to most newer non sport orientated cars nowadays...in the name of efficiency

Roughly what's the rpm @110km/h for this car ? 6 speed aisin auto right?

The Polo 6AT sluggishness in D mode is worse than any AT I've driven. Try it to believe it

TS, you're looking at the Polo MPI because of its discounted 69k price tag? There are better choices in the B-segment category, but they're all about 15 to 20k more expensive. The 1.6 MPI is a decent enough car for its price, peak hp and torque comes at a pretty low RPM compared to other non-turbo B-segs. And its using a conventional automatic so should be more reliable than the DSG. Space and comfort is pretty good too

First of all, did you follow the test parameters set by Prof J for bumper to bumper crawl torque test?

If not, your findings is korean/n-brand cheap marketing talk trick used by sit in office do nothing keyboard warrior ciku with no technical knowledge!

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Aug 10 2017, 11:52 AM

Sorry sir!!

Prof J as in Jayraptor ?

My Polo 1.6 MPI FC is very high, almost 10 km/l

new 208 1.2turbo promo 73k

208 puretech is good in FC. My friend got it on CNY and he say only need to refill tank once per month... He can travel more than 600km average on city drive.

Thats a lot of a small car and not hybrid too. But i have my doubts about other things

Agree with 208 puretech.

Have both polo 1.6 and 208 puretech at home. I would say that 208 is more interesting to compared to polo. But the fc of my polo is slightly better than that of 208.

No wonder la. I drove my friend's VW 1.6 polo hatchback. Macam siput compare to my Honda city 1.5 CVT.

If going for barebones car , like for like , better just choose Japanese

Both NA, both traditional gearbox , interior also both plastic , does same job a to b

Japanese way to go .

city/jazz cvt quite punchy. "terkejut" a bit.

Errr, traditional gearbox... Isn't vios and Honda city already on CVT? Only left is the Almera with 4AT..

I think TS is looking at the Polo becoz of its 69k price tag now, if for 80k plus, there's definitely better choices

Their cvt are trouble free , its run like a traditional one already

Still new, wait 10 years later. Honda City idsi CVT also problem comes after aged up... During first 5 years never heard any complain on their CVT.
But of coz not a concern if planning to change car every 5 years yo

since there is no clear benefits of getting a Jap, why buy a Jap

Abundance of spare parts, newer car interior , easily saleable , easily repaired, not requiring special tools or knowledge ,

Something you can trade easily as you upgrade your self ,

The polo is already feeling 5 years behind , in 5 years it wok feel 10 years older. It won't age well and owners won't bother spending too much on it to maintain as it will be expensive to out of warranty

CVT is cheaper cost and easier to build product than conventional auto tranny but it generates the loud sound of the engine as it is constantly held at its power peak under acceleration - very high in the rev range, it is feel-less gear change and expansive CVT oil change.

CVT is not trouble free and it requires dedicated CVT gearbox Oil.


Of course, the Conventional auto tranny over CVT gearbox preferred regardless of any Auto brands.




This post has been edited by IiBbMm: Aug 12 2017, 10:27 AM

You again contradicting yourself.

Since it's job is to move you from point A to point B, it will be most likely be kept till become scrap, like for 10 years.
By then both car fetch roughly the same value, may a Jap fetch 2k more, is that more value to you?

It's a MPI and Aisin gearbox, which I seriously believe that anyone can fiddle the drivetrain without much problems, that at least slash the truth value of your "maintenance difficulty" statement by half.

Again with some quick google I found plentiful of result in parts for VW, maybe not as much choice of the mighty Toyota and Honda, but then, hey it's 2017, lot's of people own VW.



The point being, it's not much difference mean wither two is equally bad, or equally meh.

A VW will become scrap.faster than a Japanese car

As it is, polo are already disappearing from streets , same with fiesta, 308, 206, almost zero new facelifts , older models quickly disappearing

Ya, only Mazda prevail rights

I am seeing more Vento OTR lately. surprisingly many are the TSI variant despite the DSG's reputation

Japanese always superior , until now still see plenty older mazda 2 and 3

Vw and it's diehard supporter telling everyone of the updated DQ200 dry clutch DSG are reliable.. of coz, things are still "new" and need another 5 years observation. Older DSG problem coming out after few years OTR.

Went to VW Festival yesterday, test drove both Polo 1.6 and Vento 1.2. The Vento turbo is very refined and smooth on highway driving, but damn the turbo lag is so apparent. Now got 9k rebate as well, so price is quite reasonable for what you get. The Polo 1.6 is no slouch actually, its 1.6 engine still gives enough power and handling is quite ok, comfortable and still able to handle corners quite well. At 69k its actually a pretty good buy.

I still prefer the way my Mazda 2 drives though. Though I'm actually tempted to trade in my Kelisa to get the Polo as a second car for my family

good handling, but suspension broken within 10k km. highway drive was floating like boat, VW SC told me normal lar, change bigger tyre lor, absorber no leak no noise equal to good. absorber warranty is 10k km or 6 months whichever comes first.

so by 13k km, my curiosity to check on the absorber condition, dismantled and found 2 out of 4 absorber went faulty. wallet damaged 1.3k for replacing faulty absorber myself

don't fall into the rebate trap for poor quality car, that is my advice.

This post has been edited by voscar: Aug 13 2017, 11:47 PM


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You live on which cave, so many potholes ah 😂

i wouldn't blame potholes, and my driving will try to avoid potholes or slowing down.
my gen2 rear absorber already served me for 5 years before i decided to replace it recently, none of it as worse as these absorbers which can be press down using by 1 thumb.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modification...y-vw-vento.html

True. Still new only

My friends jetta at first no problem for the first two years. Say after warranty sure go modify and aftermarket parts

Third year end, i ask him hey friend so your jetta now super fast and can go race track uhh ?

One reply " sold liao " and problem is DSG kaput. Toll car twice and most of times are caused by idle long during jams later when volkswagen decide to go for solution only temporarily. If you guys recall the rioting at vw Bangsar HQ 3 years ago

Volkswagen cars actually good but their gearbox totally destroy their cars la . That is why no one want to become a dealer for them anymore and especially audi. Ever wonder why audi TT is so cheap in the recond/used market... that answers your question.

Bring in manual for golf gti and i bet sure stock rise

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Aug 14 2017, 01:19 AM

i see...


your Honda city 1.5 CVT is damn good hor...
btw, you forgot to mention about the RESALE VALUE is better than VW.
don't you ever forget about that.

Like the saying goes

There is no one easier to fool than yourself

No mah, i thought his car is 1.6 and using Aisin six-speed automatic transmission should be faster than my 1.5 cvt manatau so slow in pickup. When i press onto the accelerator and noticed that it was so slow to respond, u should see my face. I even said "huhh..?"

You are wrong, latest gen Honda City is the new God Car overtook Vios's statue. Very fast acceleration, 140km/h cornering at LDP without fear due to VSA stability control. I have even race against a Honda City going uphill slope using gen2. Even fully throttled revving till 6k rpm, the Honda City is in front of me and slowly disappearing. Friend told me after driving Honda City, he drive every auto car will feel very siput..

This post has been edited by voscar: Aug 14 2017, 01:59 PM

i know the feeling man..
i also faced that before..
it's like.. hmm...

If not mistaken the 1.6mpi takes 12.5 seconds from 0-100? It's like Persona acceleration

City and Vios are 2 seconds faster

I think Kia Rio is faster?

Once u drive a powerful car, u can notice the difference instantly.
Tat day i drove my brother in law old Mark X 2.5. Very powerful and shiok. Then i switch back to my car and have the same funny feeling. I checked whether did i accidentally ON eco mode. I even ask told my wife is our car experiencing sudden drop of power coz it feels underpower, lol..

I've been driving a 2017 Polo hatchback 1.6 for the past few days, city driving and highway, and B-roads. still driving before I return it.

Positives
- good as a city car, easy to drive, easy to park.
- stock audio system is not that bad.
- ergonomic, everything within driver reach
- reasonably well put together
- FC at highway legal speeds is reasonable
- throttle response is rather eager, but drivetrain is smooth when driven sedately
- suspension is tuned for comfort driving

Negatives
- no ESP
- poor NVH on poor road surfaces, noisy. don't really get the "conti" feel
- generic Goodyear tyres, same like new Myvis, no indication of the model, just says Goodyear. they are horrible
- don't like the overall drivetrain character, I guess it's subjective. I kinda like prefer the Jazz/City/BRV drivetrain
- car jiggles under heavy braking, not something I expected from the chassis
- suspension is tuned for comfort driving on slow speeds, like the old Hyundai Getz. you can feel the subsequent bounces after going over a bump. this is not a car you wanna touge or "pek" corner.
- less spacious than a Myvi

Spare parts and servicing isn't gonna be cheap. If you are buying it because it meets your budget of RM6x,xxxx then you will kill yourself later for maintenance. If you want a non-Asian car, the 208 puretech is more modern and up-to-date. you must be a fan of the brand to want a Polo. I drive a VW as well (Polo is a courtesy car) and I won't buy the Polo. Nope. Let's face it, it's a entry-level VW, nothing more, nothing less.

Personally, if I want a new hatchback that is good to drive and have a cozy nice interior, maybe an Iriz manual. Else I'd go with a Jazz E and call it a day.

This post has been edited by ADJ: Aug 14 2017, 08:31 PM

City 140 only? Your Gen2 can do better bro.

Nope, i raced with City on climbing uphill, gen2 totally lost even rev till 6k rpm before upshifting. city's CVT continuous variable transmission able to get-away from my sight.

just got the car. i think i agree with your comments above