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Eilrach
post Aug 11 2017, 01:55 PM

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I think TS is looking at the Polo becoz of its 69k price tag now, if for 80k plus, there's definitely better choices
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post Aug 11 2017, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 11 2017, 01:12 PM)
Errr, traditional gearbox... Isn't vios and Honda city already on CVT? Only left is the Almera with 4AT..
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Their cvt are trouble free , its run like a traditional one already
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post Aug 12 2017, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 11 2017, 05:04 PM)
Their cvt are trouble free , its run like a traditional one already
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Still new, wait 10 years later. Honda City idsi CVT also problem comes after aged up... During first 5 years never heard any complain on their CVT.
But of coz not a concern if planning to change car every 5 years yo
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post Aug 12 2017, 05:56 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 11 2017, 08:31 AM)
If going for barebones car , like for like , better just choose Japanese

Both NA, both traditional gearbox , interior also both plastic , does same job a to b

Japanese way to go .
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since there is no clear benefits of getting a Jap, why buy a Jap rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 12 2017, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Aug 12 2017, 05:56 AM)
since there is no clear benefits of getting a Jap, why buy a Jap  rolleyes.gif
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Abundance of spare parts, newer car interior , easily saleable , easily repaired, not requiring special tools or knowledge ,

Something you can trade easily as you upgrade your self ,

The polo is already feeling 5 years behind , in 5 years it wok feel 10 years older. It won't age well and owners won't bother spending too much on it to maintain as it will be expensive to out of warranty
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post Aug 12 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 12 2017, 01:45 AM)
Still new, wait 10 years later. Honda City idsi CVT also problem comes after aged up... During first 5 years never heard any complain on their CVT.
But of coz not a concern if planning to change car every 5 years  yo
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CVT is cheaper cost and easier to build product than conventional auto tranny but it generates the loud sound of the engine as it is constantly held at its power peak under acceleration - very high in the rev range, it is feel-less gear change and expansive CVT oil change.

CVT is not trouble free and it requires dedicated CVT gearbox Oil.


Of course, the Conventional auto tranny over CVT gearbox preferred regardless of any Auto brands.




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post Aug 13 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 12 2017, 08:25 AM)
Abundance of spare parts, newer car interior , easily saleable , easily repaired, not requiring special tools or knowledge ,

Something you can trade easily as you upgrade your self ,

The polo is already feeling 5 years behind , in 5 years it wok feel 10 years older. It won't age well and owners won't bother spending too much on it to maintain as it will be expensive to out of warranty
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You again contradicting yourself. rolleyes.gif

Since it's job is to move you from point A to point B, it will be most likely be kept till become scrap, like for 10 years.
By then both car fetch roughly the same value, may a Jap fetch 2k more, is that more value to you?

It's a MPI and Aisin gearbox, which I seriously believe that anyone can fiddle the drivetrain without much problems, that at least slash the truth value of your "maintenance difficulty" statement by half.

Again with some quick google I found plentiful of result in parts for VW, maybe not as much choice of the mighty Toyota and Honda, but then, hey it's 2017, lot's of people own VW.

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The point being, it's not much difference mean wither two is equally bad, or equally meh.

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post Aug 13 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Aug 13 2017, 12:04 PM)
You again contradicting yourself.  rolleyes.gif

Since it's job is to move you from point A to point B, it will be most likely be kept till become scrap, like for 10 years.
By then both car fetch roughly the same value, may a Jap fetch 2k more, is that more value to you?

It's a MPI and Aisin gearbox, which I seriously believe that anyone can fiddle the drivetrain without much problems, that at least slash the truth value of your "maintenance difficulty" statement by half.

Again with some quick google I found plentiful of result in parts for VW, maybe not as much choice of the mighty Toyota and Honda, but then, hey it's 2017, lot's of people own VW.

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The point being, it's not much difference mean wither two is equally bad, or equally meh.

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A VW will become scrap.faster than a Japanese car

As it is, polo are already disappearing from streets , same with fiesta, 308, 206, almost zero new facelifts , older models quickly disappearing
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 13 2017, 12:08 PM)
A VW will become scrap.faster than a Japanese car

As it is, polo are already disappearing from streets , same with fiesta, 308, 206, almost zero new facelifts , older models quickly disappearing
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Ya, only Mazda prevail rights rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 13 2017, 01:42 PM

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I am seeing more Vento OTR lately. surprisingly many are the TSI variant despite the DSG's reputation
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Aug 13 2017, 01:23 PM)
Ya, only Mazda prevail rights rolleyes.gif
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Japanese always superior , until now still see plenty older mazda 2 and 3
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post Aug 13 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2017, 01:42 PM)
I am seeing more Vento OTR lately. surprisingly many are the TSI variant despite the DSG's reputation
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Vw and it's diehard supporter telling everyone of the updated DQ200 dry clutch DSG are reliable.. of coz, things are still "new" and need another 5 years observation. Older DSG problem coming out after few years OTR.
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post Aug 13 2017, 05:30 PM

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Went to VW Festival yesterday, test drove both Polo 1.6 and Vento 1.2. The Vento turbo is very refined and smooth on highway driving, but damn the turbo lag is so apparent. Now got 9k rebate as well, so price is quite reasonable for what you get. The Polo 1.6 is no slouch actually, its 1.6 engine still gives enough power and handling is quite ok, comfortable and still able to handle corners quite well. At 69k its actually a pretty good buy.

I still prefer the way my Mazda 2 drives though. Though I'm actually tempted to trade in my Kelisa to get the Polo as a second car for my family
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post Aug 13 2017, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Eilrach @ Aug 13 2017, 05:30 PM)
Went to VW Festival yesterday, test drove both Polo 1.6 and Vento 1.2. The Vento turbo is very refined and smooth on highway driving, but damn the turbo lag is so apparent. Now got 9k rebate as well, so price is quite reasonable for what you get. The Polo 1.6 is no slouch actually, its 1.6 engine still gives enough power and handling is quite ok, comfortable and still able to handle corners quite well. At 69k its actually a pretty good buy.

I still prefer the way my Mazda 2 drives though. Though I'm actually tempted to trade in my Kelisa to get the Polo as a second car for my family
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good handling, but suspension broken within 10k km. highway drive was floating like boat, VW SC told me normal lar, change bigger tyre lor, absorber no leak no noise equal to good. absorber warranty is 10k km or 6 months whichever comes first.

so by 13k km, my curiosity to check on the absorber condition, dismantled and found 2 out of 4 absorber went faulty. wallet damaged 1.3k for replacing faulty absorber myself cry.gif

don't fall into the rebate trap for poor quality car, that is my advice.

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post Aug 14 2017, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 13 2017, 11:45 PM)
good handling, but suspension broken within 10k km. highway drive was floating like boat, VW SC told me normal lar, change bigger tyre lor, absorber no leak no noise equal to good. absorber warranty is 10k km or 6 months whichever comes first.

so by 13k km, my curiosity to check on the absorber condition, dismantled and found 2 out of 4 absorber went faulty. wallet damaged 1.3k for replacing faulty absorber myself  cry.gif

don't fall into the rebate trap for poor quality car, that is my advice.
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You live on which cave, so many potholes ah 😂
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post Aug 14 2017, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(BLjack @ Aug 14 2017, 12:06 AM)
You live on which cave, so many potholes ah 😂
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i wouldn't blame potholes, and my driving will try to avoid potholes or slowing down.
my gen2 rear absorber already served me for 5 years before i decided to replace it recently, none of it as worse as these absorbers which can be press down using by 1 thumb.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modification...y-vw-vento.html
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post Aug 14 2017, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 13 2017, 02:16 PM)
Vw and it's diehard supporter telling everyone of the updated DQ200 dry clutch DSG are reliable.. of coz, things are still "new" and need another 5 years observation. Older DSG problem coming out after few years OTR.
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True. Still new only

My friends jetta at first no problem for the first two years. Say after warranty sure go modify and aftermarket parts

Third year end, i ask him hey friend so your jetta now super fast and can go race track uhh ?

One reply " sold liao " and problem is DSG kaput. Toll car twice and most of times are caused by idle long during jams later when volkswagen decide to go for solution only temporarily. If you guys recall the rioting at vw Bangsar HQ 3 years ago

Volkswagen cars actually good but their gearbox totally destroy their cars la . That is why no one want to become a dealer for them anymore and especially audi. Ever wonder why audi TT is so cheap in the recond/used market... that answers your question.

Bring in manual for golf gti and i bet sure stock rise

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post Aug 14 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ Aug 11 2017, 08:25 AM)
No wonder la. I drove my friend's VW 1.6 polo hatchback. Macam siput compare to my Honda city 1.5 CVT.
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i see...
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your Honda city 1.5 CVT is damn good hor... thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
btw, you forgot to mention about the RESALE VALUE is better than VW.
don't you ever forget about that.
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post Aug 14 2017, 10:58 AM

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Like the saying goes

There is no one easier to fool than yourself
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post Aug 14 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(lin@lowyat @ Aug 14 2017, 10:54 AM)
i see...
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your Honda city 1.5 CVT is damn good hor... thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
btw, you forgot to mention about the RESALE VALUE is better than VW.
don't you ever forget about that.
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No mah, i thought his car is 1.6 and using Aisin six-speed automatic transmission should be faster than my 1.5 cvt manatau so slow in pickup. When i press onto the accelerator and noticed that it was so slow to respond, u should see my face. I even said "huhh..?"

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