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Dzikry
post Jan 13 2018, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSundayz @ Jan 12 2018, 09:31 PM)
it's updated to ur luno account or not yet?
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Yup its in my account.
mcko
post Jan 13 2018, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(afoka @ Jan 12 2018, 11:17 PM)
Celaka lhdn...semua income nk tax...do forex gain also have to pay tax meh? Idk..pls explain...

Is other country also hv to pay tax for bitcoin gain besides gst or vat?

Celaka gomen..semua nk kutip...should let rakyat gain money....later consumption very high will contribute gst collection high...sohai bijan....

Already income source sudah tax, buy stuff also tax, bonus also tax...
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Income Remitted from Outside Malaysia. With effect from the year of assessment 2004, income derived from outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia by a resident individual is exempted from tax.


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smartly
post Jan 13 2018, 01:11 AM

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i think what IRB should do is to tackle company level (luno) in term of taxable income...rather than pinching every individual investors..
if we gain they want to tax, when we loss in our investment who gonna pay us back ?

they should focus on investors' KYC, AMLA & GST thingy rather than taxing the investors' capital gain
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post Jan 13 2018, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Jan 13 2018, 01:11 AM)
i think what IRB should do is to tackle company level (luno) in term of taxable income...rather than pinching every individual investors..
if we gain they want to tax, when we loss in our investment who gonna pay us back ?

they should focus on investors' KYC, AMLA & GST thingy rather than taxing the investors' capital gain
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Wrong. Did you read the IRB wanted them to furnish all information from clients?
Luno wanted to protect clients if they are liable to furnish such info. Thus, they are getting advices if they are liable to give.
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post Jan 13 2018, 05:55 AM

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https://themalaysianreserve.com/2018/01/12/...lumpur-1q-2018/

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post Jan 13 2018, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Dzikry @ Jan 13 2018, 12:41 AM)
Yup its in my account.
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lpc26
post Jan 13 2018, 09:28 AM

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celaka semua mau tax....
smartly
post Jan 13 2018, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 13 2018, 01:20 AM)
Wrong. Did you read the IRB wanted them to furnish all information from clients?
Luno wanted to protect clients if they are liable to furnish such info. Thus, they are getting advices if they are liable to give.
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that is why i said go to company level on company's tax profit rather than requesting clients infor...
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post Jan 13 2018, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Jan 13 2018, 10:03 AM)
that is why i said go to company level on company's tax profit rather than requesting clients infor...
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their purpose is not because of company's level. It is more to individual.
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post Jan 13 2018, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Jan 13 2018, 01:11 AM)
i think what IRB should do is to tackle company level (luno) in term of taxable income...rather than pinching every individual investors..
if we gain they want to tax, when we loss in our investment who gonna pay us back ?
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In the developed world eg. US & Europe, when you gain you're taxed as capital gains. When you lose money, you can offset that loss (up to certain limits) for any gains in the next x number of years.

I think many people don't realize how good you have it here, US citizens are taxed on worldwide income even if you don't live or earn that money in the US. Personally I'm happy to pay taxes, just make it clear up front instead of the govt being clueless all the time. The US IRS issued statements on crypto almost 4 years ago...


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post Jan 13 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 13 2018, 10:11 AM)
In the developed world eg. US & Europe, when you gain you're taxed as capital gains. When you lose money, you can offset that loss (up to certain limits) for any gains in the next x number of years.

I think many people don't realize how good you have it here, US citizens are taxed on worldwide income even if you don't live or earn that money in the US. Personally I'm happy to pay taxes, just make it clear up front instead of the govt being clueless all the time. The US IRS issued statements on crypto almost 4 years ago...
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Can't compare with US. Taxpayers pay taxes and they enjoy what have been done or developed by gov.

How about here?
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post Jan 13 2018, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(mcko @ Jan 13 2018, 01:09 AM)

Income Remitted from Outside Malaysia. With effect from the year of assessment 2004, income derived from outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia by a resident individual is exempted from tax.


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this is good info, thank you
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post Jan 13 2018, 11:55 AM

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Guys, anyway to transfer my money out from my wallet now via other broker or something?
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post Jan 13 2018, 12:47 PM

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post Jan 13 2018, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jan 13 2018, 10:11 AM)
In the developed world eg. US & Europe, when you gain you're taxed as capital gains. When you lose money, you can offset that loss (up to certain limits) for any gains in the next x number of years.

I think many people don't realize how good you have it here, US citizens are taxed on worldwide income even if you don't live or earn that money in the US. Personally I'm happy to pay taxes, just make it clear up front instead of the govt being clueless all the time. The US IRS issued statements on crypto almost 4 years ago...
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that i agreed. if capital gain is taxable then losses have to be able to offset as well, no matter how small is that. it has to be 2 ways.
but as far as i know, capital gain in KLSE is non-taxable, it should apply to any other investment.

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post Jan 13 2018, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Teong85 @ Jan 12 2018, 09:52 PM)
Dear customers,

As you may know, Luno has not been able to process deposits or withdrawals in Malaysia over the past few weeks due to an issue with our bank account. We’d like to provide a more detailed explanation of what is currently going on.

The Internal Revenue Board (IRB) has temporarily frozen the bank account of BitX Malaysia (our local entity in Malaysia), pending an investigation relating to tax matters. As part of this, the IRB has requested that we provide them with information on all our Malaysian customers: identification, deposits/withdrawals, and transactions.

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IMO this action by LHDN is overstepping the rights of Luno and its customers by disrupting their business, and denying ALL users access to their funds. Not to mention setting a bad example for foreign investors thinking of setting up shop in Malaysia.

Are Luno or some / all of the customers being charged or suspected of doing something illegal / tax evasion? Who? Then which customer specifically? Don't know? So let's just disrupt their operations and demand trade records of all users. Then dig around and see what interesting stuff we can find.

If Luno itself suspected of some violation, what is the official charge? Where is the court order to initiate the account freeze?

Were Luno served an official notice before or even after their account got frozen? No, Luno had to go ask around and call up the banks themselves to even find out what's happening.





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post Jan 13 2018, 07:47 PM

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Capital gain shouldn't be taxable, the more possible practice should be tax on the transaction.
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post Jan 13 2018, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(yan7181 @ Jan 13 2018, 07:47 PM)
Capital gain shouldn't be taxable, the more possible practice should be tax on the transaction.
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Agree. If there is to be any tax at all, it should be a 6% gst on all crypto to myr transactions. How are they supposed to track capital gains anyway? They’d need to know when we bought and how much for. And when we sell at a price, how could anyone say we’d even made a gain?

I’m sure I’m not alone buying btc from many different sources at many different price points. Not to memtion all the btc-alt-btc trades I’ve made
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post Jan 14 2018, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(kray @ Jan 13 2018, 10:03 PM)
Agree. If there is to be any tax at all, it should be a 6% gst on all crypto to myr transactions. How are they supposed to track capital gains anyway? They’d need to know when we bought and how much for. And when we sell at a price, how could anyone say we’d even made a gain?

I’m sure I’m not alone buying btc from many different sources at many different price points. Not to memtion all the btc-alt-btc trades I’ve made
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to implement tax is easy. just like current stock market. Buy and sell will include tax regardless you gain/loss.
However this can only do on those exchange operate business to MY or use MYR as currency. So those like Binance or cryptopia cannot as they did not accept MYR directly.
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post Jan 14 2018, 03:19 PM

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