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weichi
post Jan 22 2018, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(dirkgently75 @ Jan 21 2018, 11:45 PM)
Looking at the volumes on Luno, my guess is they want to keep Luno traders locked in so there is no flight of coins. The exchange probably controls about 80-90% of the volume which explains the price being kept higher than the BTC actual value. if you keep an eye on the buy and sell walls, you can see they're banding it in the 70k range and it seems deliberate. Otherwise we'd have seen the drop like the rest of the world. Now, it may be a matter of 'protecting' Luno traders from panicking and losing out 30% or more, or it may be a matter of keeping them 'locked in'. What it does mean for investors is loss of confidence no matter what they're doing. There was a very simple workaround to all this but they seem like cowboys who jumped in with guns a-blazin and now the traders are left in the lurch. I'd say crypto trading is officially dead in Malaysia for now, except for the P2P platforms which I have very little trust to deal with. Can some vets suggest how one may trade through singapore?
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Singapore's recent regulations seem to be retroactive on crypto trading. Previously there were several major exchanges supporting SGD pairing and even deposits. (eg., itBit Quoinex)

Most basic traders are just trading on Coinhako, but it's not the best platform as there's no visible orderbook on the liquidity available. For fiat deposit/withdrawals I think most Singaporeans are going for Quoinex which was previously a SG company but has shifted over to Japan to be one of the fully regulated exchanges over there. Solid trading features, even supports Margin but slightly questionable volume and horrible customer support due to the influx of trades.

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post Jan 22 2018, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jan 22 2018, 12:00 PM)
if you guys have a lot of bitcoins, will you transfer to luno and sell at market price? potentially risking your RM being stuck there forever? funny peeps. blame government,  blame luno, blame here blame there.

for those who blame LHDN, luno is running a business in malaysia. let say they didnt declare anything nor pay tax to our country. so its wrong to audit and freeze their accounts just in case they transfer all the money out of malaysia?

for those who blame luno for high btc price, who the hell in their mind will transfer btc to luno and sell at market price at current condition ? ask yourself, why you want to buy btc? to transfer to other places.

peeps, high risk high return. there is no way, no risk high return. good luck.
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will u put a money into a sinking ship or already knew got problem? The answer is no till everything rectify.

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post Jan 22 2018, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Jan 22 2018, 07:13 PM)
will u put a money into a sinking ship or already knew got problem? The answer is no till everything rectify.
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Not too sure if the ship will sink and i personally think the issue will not be solved so soon. I have decided to send all coins to my hardware wallet. At least my coins are safe now.
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post Jan 22 2018, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Jan 22 2018, 07:13 PM)
will u put a money into a sinking ship or already knew got problem? The answer is no till everything rectify.
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exactly, yet i have seen silly people complaining about luno high btc prices... luno manipulate btc price so that they can retain people's money in them yada yada... but i supposed its because everyone wanna cash out from luno, no people who is sound mind gonna sell their btc in luno at market price... those who are selling btc in luno is taking a risk to gain 30~50% by gambling that luno gonna sort things out within weeks or days.
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post Jan 22 2018, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jan 22 2018, 09:50 PM)
exactly, yet i have seen silly people complaining about luno high btc prices... luno manipulate btc price so that they can retain people's money in them yada yada... but i supposed its because everyone wanna cash out from luno, no people who is sound mind gonna sell their btc in luno at market price... those who are selling btc in luno is taking a risk to gain 30~50% by gambling that luno gonna sort things out within weeks or days.
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You made a good point. People still die die stay in Luno because Luno price is 20-30% higher than market price. If you transfer out and sell, you loss that 20-30%. So it is a gamble. By the way, if the issue been solved, i believe immediately the price will back to market price. So no point keep money in Luno in my opinion. You risk your own money there!
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post Jan 22 2018, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jan 22 2018, 10:39 PM)
You made a good point. People still die die stay in Luno because Luno price is 20-30% higher than market price. If you transfer out and sell, you loss that 20-30%. So it is a gamble. By the way, if the issue been solved, i believe immediately the price will back to market price. So no point keep money in Luno in my opinion. You risk your own money there!
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It is already higher, so you can always sell now and keep the fiat in Luno's system. Either withdraw when systems are back online or buy again at a discount.
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QUOTE(weichi @ Jan 22 2018, 10:59 PM)
It is already higher, so you can always sell now and keep the fiat in Luno's system. Either withdraw when systems are back online or buy again at a discount.
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That was what i thought too. But when the system will be back? You can sell at highest but you can not withdraw the money. So no point.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jan 22 2018, 10:39 PM)
You made a good point. People still die die stay in Luno because Luno price is 20-30% higher than market price. If you transfer out and sell, you loss that 20-30%. So it is a gamble. By the way, if the issue been solved, i believe immediately the price will back to market price. So no point keep money in Luno in my opinion. You risk your own money there!
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eh..i heard someone say loss BTC in luno. someone stole it. not sure true or not.
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post Jan 22 2018, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(weichi @ Jan 22 2018, 10:59 PM)
It is already higher, so you can always sell now and keep the fiat in Luno's system. Either withdraw when systems are back online or buy again at a discount.
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well, u buy and sell in luno will have record. Let say if got tax implement, then they will know coz can check on history. Sure cannot escape.
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post Jan 22 2018, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jan 22 2018, 01:07 PM)
What do you mean by bank KYC on localbitcoin?
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if you read the conditions set by sellers on some listings, its almost like bank KYC: i.e. they ask for IC, bank account must match IC and localbtc account name, they can ask for further verifications etc.. etc.... Its ridiculous! I'm never sharing sensitive data with an individual, as it is: the banks and telcos know more about us than necessary but at least they can be held to account for abusing our data. What to say of a random individual on localbtc?
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QUOTE(dirkgently75 @ Jan 22 2018, 11:58 PM)
if you read the conditions set by sellers on some listings, its almost like bank KYC: i.e. they ask for IC, bank account must match IC and localbtc account name, they can ask for further verifications etc.. etc.... Its ridiculous! I'm never sharing sensitive data with an individual, as it is: the banks and telcos know more about us than necessary but at least they can be held to account for abusing our data. What to say of a random individual on localbtc?
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What’s worse is that they never take responsibility for our data privacy. Like all the Malaysians data was leaked in a telco hack in October, they just conveniently swept it under the rug. Malaysians should scream for legal charges and compensation.
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post Jan 23 2018, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Secruoser @ Jan 23 2018, 10:52 AM)
What’s worse is that they never take responsibility for our data privacy. Like all the Malaysians data was leaked in a telco hack in October, they just conveniently swept it under the rug. Malaysians should scream for legal charges and compensation.
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I think it is not a concern anymore as our data already leaked left right and centre. lol.
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post Jan 23 2018, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Secruoser @ Jan 23 2018, 10:52 AM)
What’s worse is that they never take responsibility for our data privacy. Like all the Malaysians data was leaked in a telco hack in October, they just conveniently swept it under the rug. Malaysians should scream for legal charges and compensation.
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It’s examples like this that make people jittery about revealing personal details linked to banking information. The luddites in government and banking think everyone using crypto is a criminal, money launderer or terrorist but they don’t have the sense to think that people have a right to privacy, specially for sensitive information like net worth and financial transactions.
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personally if its long hold u can keep in luno but if wanna trade then better move to binance or quoinex or just simple sell it all off on remitano or local bitcoins
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post Jan 23 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(joeylny @ Jan 23 2018, 11:56 AM)
personally if its long hold u can keep in luno but if wanna trade then better move to binance or quoinex or just simple sell it all off on remitano or local bitcoins
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NEVER hold coins in a exchange's wallet, that is Crypto 101. There have been many exchanges hacked or shut down or gone broke and people lost everything. Always put your coins in a secure wallet app, paper wallet or hardware wallet, but never leave it on an exchange wallet especially an exchange who has its bank account frozen and is being investigated by the local tax office!
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post Jan 23 2018, 03:33 PM

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i had luno since the bitx era, deposit and withdrawal problems always come and go. even coinhako had problems but somehow rectified. those of you desperately wanna withdraw, send btc to a neteller account. then sell your dollars to a malaysian neteller agent. easy. or sell to me lmao
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QUOTE(sofaremote @ Jan 23 2018, 03:33 PM)
i had luno since the bitx era, deposit and withdrawal problems always come and go. even coinhako had problems but somehow rectified. those of you desperately wanna withdraw, send btc to a neteller account. then sell your dollars to a malaysian neteller agent. easy. or sell to me lmao
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So you can buy at Luno price?
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post Jan 23 2018, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jan 23 2018, 03:39 PM)
So you can buy at Luno price?
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no point buying dude when luno is that expensive than the market price. better off buying at a different platform
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post Jan 23 2018, 04:53 PM

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Anyone actually try to buy cheap from Remi and sell at Luno price (usually higher)? The difference can be up to 20k.
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QUOTE(TallJustin @ Jan 23 2018, 02:54 PM)
NEVER hold coins in a exchange's wallet, that is Crypto 101. There have been many exchanges hacked or shut down or gone broke and people lost everything. Always put your coins in a secure wallet app, paper wallet or hardware wallet, but never leave it on an exchange wallet especially an exchange who has its bank account frozen and is being investigated by the local tax office!
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Can advise secure wallet app?
How to setup paper wallet?

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