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 New Proton Persona VVT 2016 - Official Thread V3,, Its New, Its Refined, Its Safe ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

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Man xyz
post Sep 2 2017, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 1 2017, 11:01 PM)
Change from 3 years old Altis to Persona just for safety? Quite non sense if you ask me. How do you know persona is safer? Because of the safety rating? If yes Persona even safer than Camry, but do you believe it?
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I think he means new persona got esc with traction ctrl. Altis 1.8 2014 no esc.
If you experienced car pusingpusing while driving in the rain before, then you will really appreciate this esc stuff.
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post Sep 3 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(A2R2 @ Sep 1 2017, 08:37 PM)
A SERIOUS QUESTION.

I would like to have the members opinion regarding the dilemma I'm facing now.

I'm currently owning 2014 Toyota Altis 1.8G (no monthly commitment).

What do you say, is it a wise choice, if I let go of Altis, and get myself a 2017 Proton Persona Premium?

Safety wise, Persona tops Altis at reasonable price.

Safety wise, yes, new persona safer than ur altis bcoc ESC. But be prepared with inferior finishing quality compared to ur altis, not life threatening though


1.6L is enough for me. Main reason being is that I feel like paying more for things that i don't need.

What do u mean? Ur altis no hutang already. Is it maintenance, insurance? Roadtax xbnyk beza between 1.6 and 1.8
FC.. haha..don’t know.. comparable or even altis 1.8 2014 slightly better than new persona kott



So, enlighten me with your thoughts regarding my Dilemma.

Thanks 😊
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post Sep 3 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Sep 3 2017, 10:06 AM)
Only safety specs win abit , persona lost on engine comparison side to side.  smile.gif
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Win a bit? Don’t underestimate the importance of ESC
Due to esc, new persona safety better than altis 1.8 2014

Engine, finishing quality, comfort etc altis 1.8 2014 betterlah. Boleh menyesal weii downgrade from altis 2014 1.8 to new persona.. till ESC new persona saves ur day
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post Dec 6 2017, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Dec 2 2017, 08:44 AM)
For those who upgrade your EO to syn3000 7000.. always remember to ask for the bottle to bring home...

I suspect after paid extra they still use 800se. My sc here are quite big, we're not allowed to go into svc area.

For a far I saw they still use grey bottle for me, even Im paying for 3000. If any proton svc ppl lurk here.. hope they see this.

Edit : that was for first service, but second service so far ok.
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This is very serious man! If indeed they used 800 instead of 3000 while u r paying for 3000

I m doubt as u. Paying for 3000se for the 1k service but actually dont know what lub they used? I dont think proton will purposely cheat. My worry is technician wrongly use 800 instead of 3000

Proton must address this issue. Invite us to the floor to confirm the lubs and other materials. Then u can usher us to the waiting room to enjoy our coffee peacefully...
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post Dec 6 2017, 04:10 PM

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If proton is serious about getting feedback they should be spying lowyat
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post Dec 9 2017, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Dec 9 2017, 01:22 PM)
yes i did, because after this week i will be over 6month period, and all SC are full due to holiday season. Not to mention they charge me washer fluid for RM 6.70 without telling me. can say i was at fault not checking during payment.

For those who dont want to be ripped off like me, follow 100% on this link, they cant over charge you or top up anything without your conscience. someone recommend me this SC and is near my house so i let my guard down.
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/pdf/service-...vice%20Menu.pdf
Please be very aware proton charge you RM 60 per work hour. that SC charge me RM66 so i was con. This is the so called bad sales service.  total i spent RM210 just for an oil change, is terribly expensive.

sad to say this is the bad part owning a proton, i sent my myvi to SC i trust them fully and still the maintenance was cheaper for a 4 year old car oil change.
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U went to proton edar servce center or proton appointed workshop?
Better proton edar servce center, to be safe, i think.

There are several good proton appointed workshop being discussed in lowyat. Kena search.
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post Dec 9 2017, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(ultimate93 @ Dec 9 2017, 04:07 PM)
Hey friends... Just got my persona standard, is the usb on player use for media streaming or charging? Haha
And one thing... The cvt lag is so so so serious compared to my 12 yrs old car😂
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City drv not so fun. But hiway drv this persona suprises me. Suprisingly good. Recently travel thro pantai timur hiway with 2 relatives cars. Jazz n hrv. Raining. We are speeding avg 140km/h. Briefly like 10minutes at 160km/h. The hondas is testing me. Must say persona speeding effortlessly n comfortably.

At the end of the journey the hrv said they saw persona behind them catching like a bull dog. While the jazz at behind said persona slicing wet road like a rock.

But at that speed the engine roar is noticeable. Need to raise our voice while talking.
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post Dec 9 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Dec 9 2017, 05:20 PM)
rclxms.gif  drive safe bro. persona is fun to drive in highways and windy roads too. rclxm9.gif
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I believe in safe driving. I am not a gila2 type driver. But that day we are driving in a pack. I have no choice but to keep up with them. Air muka kena jaga jugak..
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post Dec 9 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Dec 9 2017, 06:51 PM)
Usb slot on player use for music streaming.  smile.gif

CVT lag is normal for persona, but the lag is better than previous generation which been used in Saga FLX. U might can try do clutch adaptation on yourself in front page have the tutorial or refer to SC to help you.

BTW you won't expect it will immediately get the response and power, you required to adapt with it. If your 12 yrs old car is iswara or drive by cable throttle then when u switch to persona u will experience response delay, as new persona is drive by wire.
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Usb slot at single din blaupunkt persona std.
Mine can use for charging as well. But don’t know berapa charging amperage. 1 amp maybe?
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post Dec 9 2017, 11:53 PM

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Please enlighten me about cvt adaption procedure:

1) To my knowledge, Proton never asks us to do the adaptation ourselves. There is no adaption procedure in owner’s manual book supplied with our car. Am I right?

2) Is there any risk if we want to do this adaptation ourselves? Can something go wrong?
I read the adaptation procedure in page 35 n 36 in the manual attached at 1st page of this thread. This manual is for VT2 and VT3. Last updated by Punch in 2011. Ours is cvt2+
Adaption procedure looks simple. But the preconditions are not that simple. Need to familiar with ECU and TCU.
At first I thought cvt adaptation is a mechanical stuff, kind of home repositioning. Now I realized cvt adaptation is more on electronic stuff, kind of electronic resetting. Anyone can explain more?

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post Dec 10 2017, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Dec 10 2017, 05:36 PM)
Dear All, seeking your kind advice urgently.. sorry if my notes being too messy and our speculation sounded too naive, just try to get peace of mind

My elder brother recently bought a brand new Persona Premium, everything went too smoothly until the 2nd day of driving.
- Loan disbursed and down-payment paid on 27 November 2017. Car dealer said they would placed order for the new car on same day.
- We were notified on 7th Dec 2017 (8PM) that our brand new persona arrives and can be collected on 8th Dec 2017. Was rather happy as it arrives sooner than expected.

- On the 8th Dec, my father collected the car on behalf of my brother as he was outstation.
- My father only drives the car home and never touch it thereafter. At that point, there was nothing wrong with the car.
- On 2nd day when my brother returned, he fetch us to dinner and immediately we were struck by the weird sound from the rear of the car.
(the sound sounded like "ker-lok ker-lok ker-lok" just like something hitting the rear or the bottom of car, even when the car was moving at slow pace the sound persists, just much slower)
- My brother told me that this sounded like the test drive car he droves at the car dealer place.
- There is unpleasant firecrackers smell when we stop the car (the test drive car we drove that day having the same smell as well).

Long story short, we are now suspecting the car dealer may have given us the test drive car instead of brand new car, because:
- it's too soon that the car dealer managed to get a brand new car within 1.5 weeks time
- the weird sound and firecrackers issue is totally the same as per the test drive car (i've never seen anyone complained about these issue in this thread, which indicates that this is uncommon).
- The colour of test drive car is the same option that my brother chosen.
- When we called the salesperson to highlight the issue, he himself brought it up first and reassure to us that the car he given to us is not test drive unit (make things more fishy as we have yet to make allegation on that point just yet).
Appreciate if you guys could share how could we detect whether this car is totally brand new or test drive unit.. billion of thanks!  cry.gif
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- Loan disbursed and down-payment paid on 27 November 2017. Car dealer said they would placed order for the new car on same day.
- We were notified on 7th Dec 2017 (8PM) that our brand new persona arrives and can be collected on 8th Dec 2017. Was rather happy as it arrives sooner than expected.


1) It means ur roadtax n insurance should be dated 27 Nov onwards. If earlier than this date, memang fishy..

2) Ask your dealer for the car invoice. The invoice that Proton Edar Sdn Bhd sent to them.
From the invoice u can see car chasis number, engine number and invoice date. The invoice date should be later than 27 Nov. I am not sure if they legally can refuse to show the invoice to us, since the invoice belongs to them, not us.

Maybe u can check with Proton Edar when your car was delivered to your dealer.


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post Dec 10 2017, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Dec 10 2017, 07:42 PM)
First of all , when you collected the car is the mileage is above 50km ? and could you please check your service and warranty booklet, when is the pre delivery inspection cop and date?

Secondly, if you find out many abnormal sound you can straight away go to Proton SC , they check for you. Next is, if you not satisfied you could address all this issues to Proton I Care , call them and make a complaint.  smile.gif
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(the sound sounded like "ker-lok ker-lok ker-lok" just like something hitting the rear or the bottom of car, even when the car was moving at slow pace the sound persists, just much slower)

- There is unpleasant firecrackers smell when we stop the car (the test drive car we drove that day having the same smell as well).


Rear wheel bearing pecah???

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post Dec 10 2017, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mr. Najib Razak @ Dec 10 2017, 10:07 PM)
the moment got my car engine light on
drove to sc and they told me brake switch issue
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proton qc really super duper far from good
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Proton QC hahah
I am expecting the worst..

Thanks god, so far so good. Rattling pon tadak. Still less than 5k mileage anyway. Tapi parking sensor both front n rear memang hancuss.

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post Dec 20 2017, 11:50 AM

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Why final gear ratio of std cvt differ than exec n premium variants?

Cvt std final gear ratio is 5.76
Exec n premium final gear ratio is 6.65

Refer Specifications page 174 in the manual book.



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post Dec 21 2017, 10:57 AM

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[quote=ahsham,Dec 21 2017, 01:05 AM]
3k rpm at 110km/h is normal for Persona (both old and new).
As far as I know, every car has different RPM at 110km/h, as it depends on gearbox and final drive gear ratio, which are different on every car model.

FYI, this RPM@110km/h chart was taken from http://kereta.info :

Berat juga akan affect rpm. Persona berat, proton cars are heavier than other brand.

yg aku xfaham nape persona std cvt final gear ratio berbeza dgn persona exec n premium?
I tought std, exec n premium use same powertrain setup. Tayar diameter pon sama.

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post Dec 21 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(lkoky @ Dec 21 2017, 09:31 AM)
At service centre for 10k service now. Engine oil price hike? Semi 10W-40 now at rm138
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Went up by rm38?. Appointed workshop or proton edar servce center?
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post Dec 21 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(lkoky @ Dec 21 2017, 09:31 AM)
At service centre for 10k service now. Engine oil price hike? Semi 10W-40 now at rm138
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Syntium 800 SE 10w-30?
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post Dec 21 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(kepompong @ Dec 21 2017, 11:59 AM)
holla guys..is it ok to drive new below 1k meter persona long distance? example im goin to (pontian) johor this week and back to kl.
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Proton specified max speed 90km/h during 1k breakin period for cvt. MT has difference speed limit. U should read breakin guides in the manual.

Someone told me if we abuse, proton can find it during 1k services and can void warranty. How true, I don’t know.

Problem travelling at 90km/h left lane on our hiway is lorry will cucuk, flashing light and honking u.

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post Dec 21 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kepompong @ Dec 21 2017, 04:47 PM)
then i will sakit bontot la along the way to johor  laugh.gif
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I did travel to Johor within 1k breakin period. Took the opportunity to try the persona.
Let me assure u, no sakit bontot. Persona is a pleasure for long distance.

At 90km/hr hiway lorry and bus will be ur problem.

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post Dec 21 2017, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Dec 21 2017, 05:19 PM)
I old man drive to Ipoh from KL & back already sakit pinggang, not sakit bontot 😂

Later that night I asked my wife to massage my back

Maybe I need to adjust the sitting position.
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