Greetings @goldfries

Since most of the rules and guidelines were never stated in detailed specifically for the few main topics in LYF, I believe many car forumners would like to know the rules on car forum. As per explanation from few websites, definition on trolling/flaming are posts that do not contain facts, news, etc buy purely personal hatred, politicking, cybertroopers organized attack, etc.

I received this message from moderator. Can you define what is trolling/flaming? There are few forumners who posted offensive, poking fun comments including foul language and hurling insults. Do they get similar warning as well? Despite I posted how turbocharger works upside down or explained halfway bits but the points and facts are still there, does this consider trolling or flaming?

If those renowned computer gaming hardware & software reviewers like digital foundry, wcctech, hardocp, etc post on LYF, they knew someone working in MSI who informed vega gpu is high on TDP and posted on LYF, does this consider trolling? The result happened to be true when AMD Radeon announced the specifications of new Vega GPU. Same thing in my comment that received warning, I replied to few forumners who posted hatred comments, the friend whom they knew really joined car company and beaten competitors further. I post news, plans, test result, survey result that I gotten from him here, is this considered trolling/flaming?

You may notice there are far more viewers in FnF forum than IT forum. IT shops sell all brands products, IT forumners mostly are educated people therefore whatever debate is always healthy. Car line however, the viewers can be car enthusiast, those wanted to buy, marketing or sales from car company, those selling parts, from modify shop, etc. There are also the desperate rely on success of their products to survive. If a group of organised forumners from 1 roof use politicking to fill replies on a genuine forumner who posted facts, kept saying he's trolling and reported to moderator, will moderator suspend that genuine forumner because 10 people said he's trolling?

Car talk and debate, a person brought up doubt or commenr irrelevant to topic, I replied, does it treat me as trolling? A car thread, we post pros and cons like how you post on AMD Ryzen vs Intel , RX480 vs gtx1060, why in several cases, there are comments that are facts talk being removed or deleted? Like new Camry hybrid 2018, the debate was healthy few brought in competitors to compare pros and cons, a moderator posted his present Camry hybrid pros vs Korean car too. But the for no reason, entire thread was removed.

Could you help to clarify these few FAQ?


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Hi Mr TeXh from JoXor, you not tired meh?

This post has been edited by monocle: Aug 4 2017, 11:47 PM

Over the past 2 years, there are numbers of forumners no longer seen in FNF forums especially the Toyota, Honda supporters whom I used to debate with. I saw 1 or 2 at another topic not related to car talk. I get friends to check, most of them said there is a group of forumners that are well organized that will make a forumner to get into argument then report against him. Even this thread being reported for no reason. I'm just asking for guidelines from moderators so that all FnF forumners know what are the Do's and Don't for car talk and debate.

FnF is best place to talk about cars beating PT and AW. More people talk about facts, pros and cons draw more viewers especially those wanted to buy cars. They don't want pure propaganda talk. The viewers can always try themselves to check which points are telling facts and what methods can they use to test a car.

Hmm, how about 50 kg anti roll bar?

Is it a troll by you?

A fact is known as the truth value of certain statement, which is something that is postulated to be correct. This truth value is only valid when it is verifiable, thru scientific notions, such as experiments, measurements, observation, pattern in data etc where the result can be repeatedly reproduced within acceptable tolerance which corresponding to real world experience.

For most of the time, you like to provide statement that lt contradict to most of our knowledge, where u have fail to provide scientific measurements to represent your statement's truth value.

Yes, it do not necessarily means that you are wrong but please, enlighten us dim litter minds. I personally open to the idea that what I know it's not always true, which there is some statements I learnt is not fact. However, I do not take this process lightly, with enough to say that a sentence or two is definitely not good enough to work as scientific prove of my insufficient knowledge.

So yeah, don't yell at us if you are not able to prove yourself scientifically. We are all civilized men, where act of rash violence is not required.

Enjoy your day professor.

~double post~

This post has been edited by JunJun04035: Aug 5 2017, 06:02 AM

So Jayraptor is Teoh from Johor? That's some serious investigative skills you got there.

I don't know about flaming and trolling by Jayraptor but I think we can all agree that he surely posts a lot of rubbish which he regards as, well, facts. Nowadays every time I click open a thread and see a long post by him, a post that needs 30 minutes to type, I will just skim through the post in less than 5 seconds. I have little interest to read through the post as I know it will be mostly rubbish. I'm surprised he still behaves the same way as he did 5 years ago!~

goldfries
Pls move this to /k thread

And I don't understand why the rage whenever the Koreans launch a new model. Saying is not good strategy.

If kia or Hyundai wants to lose money , let them be la.

Okay Jaytaptor/DrJay/whoever your other dupes are, your statements is almost never backed up by proof. You say you worked with Kia? Show us a pic of your business card showing your position alongside a paper written with your LYN name. Even things like 50kg anti roll bar, where are the proof?!? Ultra Racing's anti roll bar is at most, and I'm exaggerating here, 10kg. So, once again, you require to show proof. It's like the saying "all bark no bite" and "mou nga lou fu"

geee.....putting the moderator/admin's decision to public judgement....

Aihhh open thread also open in the wrong section...............

I read through your post, I think the suspension was justified.

A person who wants to provide information will not be writing it in such a condescending fashion, refer to your first paragraph.

There are many ways to convey a message, it does not have to be phrased the way you did.

The few posts here are clear example of politicking style attacks. If really have facts, don't have to do so but instead will post facts to counter.

I have posted lancer GT 2007-2012 Asia and Japanese variant kerb weight at 1385kg and linked to few websites including local Autoworld. The few self proclaimed P1 walancar modders claimed they knew everything that could convert to real Lancer GT. But whatever they do, even if given the Lancer original 18" rim add whatever bodykit also can't exceed 1360kg. FYI, the original lancer GT 2017 only has skirting and spoilers that are really light. You take these parts including rim and its multilnk rear suspension to put into fake Walancar also can't get anywhere near 1385kg.

Instead of calling those who supported me as dupes, the few of you organized forumners seems more like dupes especially few accounts that only come in whenever you guys needed backup against genuine forumners posting facts that touches your rice bowl.

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Aug 6 2017, 04:01 PM

Last time jolokia said I'm Jeya, now you said I'm Teh? So what's next?

If I posted rubbish, how come everything turned out true in reality. Like your Ford Focus, you posted 3 guys at the back who purposely squeezed themselves to make it look like it's more spacious than Japanese cars. In reality, the focus wasted much of its interior space on the thick door panels, the poorly designed handles that raked more space further and the roof wrapping too. 3 guys at the back end up cramped compared to other cars.

You said you don't bother to read my post but end of you read just like majority here. If there's thread from Sam Loo, his thread will only get several posts from people poking fun at him where number of viewers are just the few who came in. My threads, you can see far more viewers and they came because of the information that I've provided. If LYF forum site is advanced enough, goldfries can check the IP of viewers and tell they are not mostly repeating viewers. Besides, I don't have such resources like those forumners that are marketing staff can tell everyone in their company to view their propaganda threads nonstop to increase viewers.

So what happen to Ford saloon car sales now? How come marketing failed to convince people to buy? Not yet stable already get DCT failure cases which bring back the old nickname Fixed On Daily Basis (FORD). Your avatar showing Ford poking Honda should change to place.

i strongly suggest you install 100kg anti roll bar in your car

it makes your car even more stable plus adding weight will give you more traction as a heavier car will make the tyre more planted.

as nissan gtr engineer has once said you can only reduce so much of weight whereby weight also one of the factor that makes the car tire bites the tarmac more.

nampak tak permainan saya?

Can't stick to facts talk, can you? As usual, if you have facts to post, you would have replied well. Even Sam Loo has changed and posting some common sense talk now. Reason? Clearly shows that when his company hired real professional trainers and tacticians, even salesman can be trained to post facts.