Hi, i'm just curious as i never done any heroic instance yet. Can a fury or arms spec warrior be able to tank in there ? So far i've been tanking with arms spec till arca without any problem but I heard heroic usually more mobs per pull or something and hit harder. So is there any non prot spec warrior find it doable for heroic instance ?

Lol! Good luck! Ok I admit i'm a mage and i'm super squishy.. But get this, in a normal Shattered Halls, I get hit for 4k to 6k on bosses. In heroic Shattered Halls, I get hit for 24k crit the highest record..

I mean as mage, as long as the mobs don't come runnin towards us, we're fine with your spec.. But after 2 frostbolts and they start runnin, there's somethin wrong..

Yes, they hit WAY harder.. Doable but hard.

This post has been edited by Aesthetica: Apr 6 2007, 01:21 PM

1 word, crushing

Just go into heroic Botanica and tank the 1st patrol, or tank the Bog Overlord in heroic Steamvaults. It might cost you 2g, but at least you know where you stand in regards to tanking viability

i stopped taking in non-prot warriors in my run since lvl65-67 ish. good luck.

Being casual these days, I've not done that many heroic instances. Having said that, the ones that i have done and completed - Ramparts, Slave Pens, Steamvaults have all been challenging (but fun) and would definitely been a lot more difficult if i weren't prot specced.

Currently working on getting my ass in gear to attempt the trials of Naaru in the next couple of weeks.

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Apr 6 2007, 03:07 PM

spend like 21 points in prot (defiance, toughness, imp sheild block, last stand and concussion blow) you should do fine liao

er.. priest hate non proct tanker.. well i can still bring u in another pontetial customer i'll intro to BS vendor soon

This post has been edited by Gladys: Apr 6 2007, 04:21 PM

Yaa doable but your party will hate you. You will suck like a RM20 chicken and lose aggro like gila when they start nuking and maybe wipe the party a few times. The healers will hate you. The DPSes will hate you. And you will learn some new swear words coming over Ventrilo with your name in between the words.

'WTF??!! *@%&!%^$%& Gaz you %#@%@& lrn2tank #^!*^@*"

You cant help it, lah. All those new talents and turbo-charged gear in TBC are one dimension better than anything before and warrior threat generation in the expansion did not increase proportionately to match the increased DPS all the other classes are putting out. You need ALL the help you can get to hold aggro. That means taking protection talents.

I only ever did one heroic with my PVP build 41/17/3 and it was very rough. Learn from others' misfortune...

This post has been edited by limsk: Apr 6 2007, 06:05 PM

don't try tanking. not worth the pain and agony. everyone stops tanking with arms/fury warrior starting SL onwards. usually picked up as DPS.

ur a good priest lol

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edited for awesome emoticon

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 6 2007, 07:19 PM

not crushing leh ..
WIPING ~!

You only get crushing blows from mobs 3 levels above you. From what i can tell, the level cap for heroics is 72, and therefore it's theoretically impossible to get a crushing blow in a heroic instance.

that's about right!~

dont need crushing when they can still crit ur face for awesome

What's a crit? Haven't seen one of those in a while

Honestly though, normal hits from heroic trash (or equally interesting yet non-epic-dropping non-bosses as blizzard likes to call them) are bad enough esp if you end up pulling too many by accident which is what usually gets me killed.

yeah, you die before you can even say "adds!" on vent lmao.

or things like 2 defenders landing crits/crushing or high dmg range at the same time is just awesome.

oh hey hey how about dodge/miss/parry/resist/reflect (i have NEVER encountered a mob that RESISTS my stuns until i went heroics lmao, what, they starting to get orc/priest/warropr mobs talented now?) lolololololololololololol

and at the end of the day, excluding those stupid badges, you generally get blues to be d/e'ed...

I'm usually lolling when i call for a sap (esp when the rogue doesn't have imp. sap)

i run a lot of heroics without imp sap, very hard, but doable...

pre-sprint -> distract -> sap and before sap registers 180deg. spin and run, you will be sapping the air behind ur target (very cool) and before they can hit you, ur already 10ish yd++ away from them, but, if possible, evasion and clos after sap is done.

if tank/cc unable to peel all of them off you, vanish. and GOTO the healer, and cheapshot -> +cp -> kidneyshot so ur healer dont get 1-2 shotted.

hehe it's hard yah.. which is why i'm usually lolling. Usually a simple bloodrage + demoralising should be enough to get the mobs off the rogue, the trouble is having the rogue survive the first few seconds of the pull. PW: Shield before the sap usually helps for this.

Sad to say, nowadays, i'm leaning more towards using a good hunter for CC as opposed to a rogue.