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TSEvePynG
post Jul 29 2017, 02:50 AM, updated 9y ago

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Hi,

I am a working nomad who had been working for 7 years as an Admin Secretary to Office Manager and currently online remote translator and transcriber.

I'm looking for an online MBA course that is internationally recognised and will accept my Diploma Certificate which is LCCI Diploma for Executive Secretary and my working experience.


I know Malaysia Segi College do offer an MBA course like this but I'll need an online MBA instead as I'll be travelling a lot for my work.

Please suggest.

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post Jul 29 2017, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(EvePynG @ Jul 29 2017, 02:50 AM)
Hi,

I am a working nomad who had been working for 7 years as an Admin Secretary to Office Manager and currently online remote translator and transcriber.

I'm looking for an online MBA course that is internationally recognised and will accept my Diploma Certificate which is LCCI Diploma for Executive Secretary and my working experience.
I know Malaysia Segi College do offer an MBA course like this but I'll need an online MBA instead as I'll be travelling a lot for my work.

Please suggest.

Thank you smile.gif  wub.gif
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This is not to discourage your dreams of pursuing a MBA, neither does it answer your question if there are any online MBA program that accept Diploma (for those programs that do, they maybe desperate for students?) You have been a Admin Secretary, Office Manager, online remote translator and transcriber. Does your next job needs a MBA? Does an Office Manager job needs an MBA? Does the salary of the next job commensurate with the MBA qualification? There is little point getting a job that asks for MBA but pays a Bachelor's Degree salary. How are you financing the MBA? A loan? How are you going to repay the loan if your salary does not increase after the MBA. Can you get a job that needs MBA?

If you have a job offer for MBA qualification or know there are MBA jobs meeting your profile (admin work, translator and transcriber, non-degree holder with MBA), then it is a different story.


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post Jul 29 2017, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(789321 @ Jul 29 2017, 03:18 AM)
This is not to discourage your dreams of pursuing a MBA, neither does it answer your question if there are any online MBA program that accept Diploma (for those programs that do, they maybe desperate for students?) You have been a Admin Secretary, Office Manager, online remote translator and transcriber. Does your next job needs a MBA? Does an Office Manager job needs an MBA? Does the salary of the next job commensurate with the MBA qualification? There is little point getting a job that asks for MBA but pays a Bachelor's Degree salary. How are you financing the MBA? A loan? How are you going to repay the loan if your salary does not increase after the MBA. Can you get a job that needs MBA?

If you have a job offer for MBA qualification or know there are MBA jobs meeting your profile (admin work, translator and transcriber, non-degree holder with MBA), then it is a different story.
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Thank you for your advice and thoughts,
Well, of course. I can continue working for what I've been doing for the past few years and continue being a diploma holder. However, to a certain level, they will still want to look at the certificate in order to promote you further. And, to be honest, What I've been doing, doesn't earn much. They are earning peanuts that won't support a family and I'm a coming to 30 years old lady who wants to be self-sufficient. So, in order to earn enough to support my family, I came to realise that I'll need a recognised MBA or higher education as I've been looking for jobs but a lot of jobs don't higher and education lower than a degree which what I've now is a Diploma.

To answer your question regarding the payment of the fees, I think that's the last thing I need to share but I'll be able to deal with it. smile.gif

So, now.. anyone has any idea regarding recognised online MBA that accept Diploma holders?
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QUOTE(EvePynG @ Jul 29 2017, 04:34 AM)
Thank you for your advice and thoughts,
Well, of course. I can continue working for what I've been doing for the past few years and continue being a diploma holder. However, to a certain level, they will still want to look at the certificate in order to promote you further. And, to be honest, What I've been doing, doesn't earn much. They are earning peanuts that won't support a family and I'm a coming to 30 years old lady who wants to be self-sufficient. So, in order to earn enough to support my family, I came to realise that I'll need a recognised MBA or higher education as I've been looking for jobs but a lot of jobs don't higher and education lower than a degree which what I've now is a Diploma.

To answer your question regarding the payment of the fees, I think that's the last thing I need to share but I'll be able to deal with it. smile.gif

So, now.. anyone has any idea regarding recognised online MBA that accept Diploma holders?
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Good, very good you are making some plans.

Finances for payment of fees, it was a rhetorical question, that is I don't need to know if you can afford to pay your fees nor do I care if you afford it. But you disclosed that you have no problems with that, good again, that is a bonus, one less issue to settle in your pursuit of your MBA.

Your goal of taking the MBA: no promotion (they will still want to look at the certificate in order to promote you further) and don't earn much (What I've been doing, doesn't earn much)

no promotion: A degree will definitely help, consider a bachelor's degree as well as the MBA.

don't earn much: Having a higher degree does not necessarily means making more money. There are other avenues of making good money, certain skills or trades (that is if you do not mind a non-office job) can pay more money than a university graduate.

Enough of me, I have no answer to your original question for now.

I will let others answer your question.

So, anyone has any idea regarding recognised online MBA that accept Diploma holders, please let this lady know.




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post Jul 29 2017, 05:20 AM

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QUOTE(789321 @ Jul 29 2017, 05:01 AM)
Good, very good you are making some plans.

Finances for payment of fees, it was a rhetorical question, that is I don't need to know if you can afford to pay your fees nor do I care if you afford it. But you disclosed that you have no problems with that, good again, that is a bonus, one less issue to settle in your pursuit of your MBA.

Your goal of taking the MBA: no promotion (they will still want to look at the certificate in order to promote you further) and don't earn much (What I've been doing, doesn't earn much)

no promotion: A degree will definitely help, consider a bachelor's degree as well as the MBA.

don't earn much: Having a higher degree does not necessarily means making more money. There are other avenues of making good money, certain skills or trades (that is if you do not mind a non-office job) can pay more money than a university graduate.

Enough of me, I have no answer to your original question for now.

I will let others answer your question.

So, anyone has any idea regarding recognised online MBA that accept Diploma holders, please let this lady know.
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Thank you for your help and kind advice. smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2017, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(EvePynG @ Jul 29 2017, 02:50 AM)
Hi,

I am a working nomad who had been working for 7 years as an Admin Secretary to Office Manager and currently online remote translator and transcriber.

I'm looking for an online MBA course that is internationally recognised and will accept my Diploma Certificate which is LCCI Diploma for Executive Secretary and my working experience.
I know Malaysia Segi College do offer an MBA course like this but I'll need an online MBA instead as I'll be travelling a lot for my work.

Please suggest.

Thank you smile.gif  wub.gif
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You may also check out OUM, WOU and AeU. They are quite reknowned for blended learning in Malaysia. This may go without saying, but you should check out if they have mandatory contact hours.
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post Jul 31 2017, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(EvePynG @ Jul 29 2017, 02:50 AM)
Hi, I am a working nomad who had been working for 7 years as an Admin Secretary to Office Manager and currently online remote translator and transcriber.  I'm looking for an online MBA course that is internationally recognised and will accept my Diploma Certificate which is LCCI Diploma for Executive Secretary and my working experience.  I know Malaysia Segi College do offer an MBA course like this but I'll need an online MBA instead as I'll be travelling a lot for my work.  Please suggest.  Thank you smile.gif  wub.gif
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To be frank, any MBA course that would accept a Diploma as its entry requirement is probably an MBA which would be a waste of money. From a time when MBAs were a rarity to the present when they are a dime a dozen, it is very important that you find an MBA which is well recognised and respected locally and internationally before you spend your hard-earned money and time on it (see The Economist article below). An MBA is supposed to be a post-graduate course with a degree as its entry requirement, not a diploma. A reputable and well recognised MBA not only gives you the academic and practical knowledge for advancing in the business and management field but the networking.

However, even then, there's no guarantee that you would progress any further or be able to utilise your MBA qualification. I've a friend who obtained an MBA from Hong Kong University and that MBA is consistently ranked first in Asia and top 20 in the world by 'The Economist' and 'The Financial Times'. Yet, she is still unable to progress as far as she had hoped for when she started her MBA. In Hong Kong, there are many Hong Kong and China professionals with MBA's from top ranked business schools such as Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, INSEAD and so on. And even though her MBA is supposedly the best local Hong Kong MBA, that pales in comparison with those elite MBAs.

If you do find an MBA which accepts a diploma as its entry requirement, do not expect it to help you to progress further in your career. It might even be a hinderance. I would suggest that as you are an Admin Secretary, try taking the ICSA (Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators) program. You can join the local division MAICSA and find out what are the entry requirements and opportunities for online studies. Its an old and very well respected international professional qualification, and accepted by many universities around the world as equivalent to a degree level course. From there, you can progress to be a company or chartered secretary, managing the corporate requirements of a company or even eventually setting up your own company to provide company secretarial services to companies. Try looking at other professional courses too such as ACCA or CIMA and the like. They are probably more relevant, practical and well recognised internationally. They are also geared towards working adults as they were originally set up to provide professional qualifications to them on a part-time or correspondence (distance education) basis.
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Nothing special: MBAs are no longer prized by employers
Jun 13th 2016, 13:44 by C.S-W.

FINDING a competitive edge is an obsession for those looking to take an MBA. Prospective students spend hours researching the minute details that will take their application from the middle of the pile to the top, and land them a place at a business school that promises plentiful rewards. But what if they were wasting their time?

Naysayers claim that the preponderance of institutions around the world that offer an MBA, or something approximating it, has resulted in a decline in teaching standards. Only 7% of graduates from India’s 5,500 business schools are employable upon graduation, according to one study. Others disagree. It is not that the MBA has become any less rigorous. Rather, easier access to an MBA programmes has changed what the MBA means to employers.

Debbie Goodman-Bhyat, the boss of Jack Hammer, a South African headhunter, says she is all for jobseekers trying to become better qualified. However, she goes on, firms no longer see an MBA as a differentiating factor, unless it was obtained at one of the world’s best business schools. Not only are more business schools now offering MBAs, but there are also a multitude of different ways to study. Online MBAs are increasing in popularity, and the number of part-time courses helps those who would not be able to devote time to a full-time programme, due to family or work commitments, to undertake their qualifications. Simply put, MBAs are no longer rare, and as such are no longer a guarantee for employment.

MBA programmes are marketed as a shortcut to higher earnings. Often they are. According to data from the last ranking by The Economist, recent MBA graduates can expect to increase their salary by 79%. Yet that requires locating a job in the first place. And appending “MBA” to the name at the top of a CV no longer guarantees employment. In America, the number of MBAs awarded by business schools has increased sevenfold from 1970. Nearly 200,000 students from American institutions have been awarded Master’s degrees in business every year since 2010. The employment market has a job to keep up.

“The MBA shouldn’t be the obvious choice” for jobseekers in business, Mrs Goodman-Bhyat says, because the three letters no longer hold the prestige they once did. Other Master’s-level qualifications may better serve some people in their search for an executive-level job, she adds. Indeed, although 45% of South Africa’s top 40 chief executives have a Master’s-level qualification, according to a Jack Hammer survey, less than half of those hold an MBA. MBAs are particularly useful for liberal arts graduates looking for a business degree at Master’s level, but Mrs Goodman-Bhyat believes that any other high-quality post-graduate business degree can do the same job.

This seems to be borne out by statistics elsewhere. Fully 20% of business-school graduates told the Graduate Management Admission Council, a business-school body, that their course did not improve their earning power. With MBA programmes costing $100,000 or more at the best schools, careful consideration must be given to whether possessing the degree will really make a candidate stand out in the cut-throat job market. Perhaps, in a world where it seems practically everyone holds an MBA, being the lone person without one may make you stand out.
http://www.economist.com/whichmba/nothing-...rized-employers
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post Jul 31 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Jul 31 2017, 09:42 AM)
To be frank, any MBA course that would accept a Diploma as its entry requirement is probably an MBA which would be a waste of money.  From a time when MBAs were a rarity to the present when they are a dime a dozen, it is very important that you find an MBA which is well recognised and respected locally and internationally before you spend your hard-earned money and time on it (see The Economist article below).  An MBA is supposed to be a post-graduate course with a degree as its entry requirement, not a diploma.  A reputable and well recognised MBA not only gives you the academic and practical knowledge for advancing in the business and management field but the networking. 

However, even then, there's no guarantee that you would progress any further or be able to utilise your MBA qualification.  I've a friend who obtained an MBA from Hong Kong University and that MBA is consistently ranked first in Asia and top 20 in the world by 'The Economist' and 'The Financial Times'.  Yet, she is still unable to progress as far as she had hoped for when she started her MBA.  In Hong Kong, there are many Hong Kong and China professionals with MBA's from top ranked business schools such as Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, INSEAD and so on.  And even though her MBA is supposedly the best local Hong Kong MBA, that pales in comparison with those elite MBAs. 

If you do find an MBA which accepts a diploma as its entry requirement, do not expect it to help you to progress further in your career.  It might even be a hinderance.  I would suggest that as you are an Admin Secretary, try taking the ICSA (Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators) program.  You can join the local division MAICSA and find out what are the entry requirements and opportunities for online studies.  Its an old and very well respected international professional qualification, and accepted by many universities around the world as equivalent to a degree level course.  From there, you can progress to be a company or chartered secretary, managing the corporate requirements of a company or even eventually setting up your own company to provide company secretarial services to companies.  Try looking at other professional courses too such as ACCA or CIMA and the like.  They are probably more relevant, practical and well recognised internationally.  They are also geared towards working adults as they were originally set up to provide professional qualifications to them on a part-time or correspondence (distance education) basis.
http://www.economist.com/whichmba/nothing-...rized-employers
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I have a close friend with diploma level currently doing an online MBA in INTI University. I heard him sharing with me that he needs to go through a series of procedure called APEL by MQA that allows him to obtain an equivalent degree cert which then lets him to do a MBA program. Perhaps you can check out this website to find out more about the APEL process, http://www2.mqa.gov.my/APEL/ . He is so far doing quite well for his online degree but he mentioned to me that you need high discipline as you need to spend at least an hour online on a daily basis to complete your assignments and etc. Since it is online basis, so no complain, and I think should be the study style that you prefer since you are a working nomad. Perhaps you can google for detail

Hope this helps and good luck in your MBA!

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QUOTE(Aric Chan @ Aug 4 2017, 09:12 AM)
I have a close friend with diploma level currently doing an online MBA in INTI University.  I heard him sharing with me that he needs to go through a series of procedure called APEL by MQA that allows him to obtain an equivalent degree cert which then lets him to do a MBA program. Perhaps you can check out this website to find out more about the APEL process, http://www2.mqa.gov.my/APEL/ . He is so far doing quite well for his online degree but he mentioned to me that you need high discipline as you need to spend at least an hour online on a daily basis to complete your assignments and etc. Since it is online basis, so no complain, and I think should be the study style that you prefer since you are a working nomad. Perhaps you can google for detail

Hope this helps and good luck in your MBA!
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Thank you, Aric. Will check it out in a bit. The information is really help and encouraging.
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btw, I am a member of MAICSA, you can pm me if you need further questions on the studies/profession. Just lending some helping hand here.

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Hey people!

Good news! I'm just signing into announce that I'm finally getting into my distant-learning Masters degree at the University of Liverpool after a lot of searching and enquiring.

It may not be the top 50 universities to go for your MBA but they are AACSB accredited which also means it's internationally recognized. It's very important to make sure the Master is worldwide recognized before enrolling it otherwise it's a waste of money. Open University is a waste of money.

They have a few intake dates coming 31st August/ 28 September or another somewhere in November.

If I recommend or introduce you to the course, You will get a USD500 discount cause I'm existing student!!! The course I'm enrolling is not MBA but similar, it's MSc in Management which is not as popular but I've done a quite a bit of research and finally decided to enroll.

If you would like to enroll in Master at the University of Liverpool, we can thrive together. Let me know so I can introduce you to the school and talk to them, they give some grant too on top of the discount you'll get from my introduction. *happy* *happy*

Education is the one investment that would not come to waste, as long as you make sure your course is accredited smile.gif
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QUOTE(EvePynG @ Aug 21 2017, 10:50 PM)
Hey people!

Good news! I'm just signing into announce that I'm finally getting into my distant-learning Masters degree at the University of Liverpool after a lot of searching and enquiring.

It may not be the top 50 universities to go for your MBA but they are AACSB accredited which also means it's internationally recognized. It's very important to make sure the Master is worldwide recognized before enrolling it otherwise it's a waste of money. Open University is a waste of money.

They have a few intake dates coming 31st August/ 28 September or another somewhere in November.

If I recommend or introduce you to the course, You will get a USD500 discount cause I'm existing student!!! The course I'm enrolling is not MBA but similar, it's MSc in Management which is not as popular but I've done a quite a bit of research and finally decided to enroll.

If you would like to enroll in Master at the University of Liverpool, we can thrive together. Let me know so I can introduce you to the school and talk to them, they give some grant too on top of the discount you'll get from my introduction.  *happy* *happy*

Education is the one investment that would not come to waste, as long as you make sure your course is accredited smile.gif
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Congratulations. All the best and I hope you get your MSc with flying colours.
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post Aug 23 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(xenotzu @ Aug 22 2017, 01:01 PM)
Congratulations.  All the best and I hope you get your MSc with flying colours.
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Hello!

I came across this thread and I am really inspired by you smile.gif

I have made my research about the distant-learning MSc in Management at University of Liverpool as well. Would really love to get in touch with you to see how the progress goes smile.gif

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