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 Entry Level DLSR Suggestion, Nikon D3400 or Nikon D5300

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post Jul 28 2017, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 28 2017, 04:12 PM)
A6000 comes with hotshoe and is within his RM2.5k budget.
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QUOTE(JiJai @ Jul 28 2017, 05:32 PM)
I would so go for a6000
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QUOTE(Atsumori @ Jul 28 2017, 05:39 PM)
why not D5500 (i own this)

also considering mirrorless
Olympus OM D E M10 Mark II
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Can I sway you to mirrorless? Like taikoliam and jijai suggest, you wont regret Sony a6000 unless u always want to take photos in very dim environment where mirrorless will struggle a bit with AF. Somemore, a6000 is very compact and easier to carry around with you compare to most dslr. You wont want to be like countless others who bought dslr and left them at home only after a short while because they are so cumblesome to bring around.

On the other hand, if u really insist on a nikon dslr, get the nikon d5xxx series, which as Atsumori suggested. I just saw one display unit at a mall yesterday, i got to say, quite sleek looking. If not d5500, get d5300 if that is what u can afford. Never ever go for the d3xxx series unless you can always take photos with good lights. The low light capability of the d3xxx series are absolute pain (for me) to work with in indoor setting. Dont save pennies where you might regret later. Just my 2 cents.

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post Jul 28 2017, 11:17 PM

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A lot of people automatically think they need a DSLR to take better photos. A lot of people end up keeping their DSLRs in a drawer somewhere.

Consider a mirrorless camera. You don't lose out on quality at all (same sensor), and the small size makes it easier for you to actually carry around and practice.
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post Jul 28 2017, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 28 2017, 04:12 PM)
*sorry, 2.6k with a max of 3k
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Is it safe and reliable to buy camera from shop such as "Miyamondo'? They offer way more cheaper price for D5300 and D5500. Iworry the unit might be fake or faulty,
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QUOTE(MahathirM7 @ Jul 28 2017, 11:47 PM)
Is it safe and reliable to buy camera from shop such as "Miyamondo'? They offer way more cheaper price for D5300 and D5500. Iworry the unit might be fake or faulty,
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Technically, there's no 'fake' camera (not including the likes of GoPro of course).

Go to the shop to shop for yourself. There should be a warranty card for you to fill and if you're doubtful, call the company hotline to verify the serial number (Nikon, Canon, Sony etc.) Test the camera on site (bring a friend who knows about camera gear along with you to test for you if you're worried about it being faulty).
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 29 2017, 12:54 AM)
Technically, there's no 'fake' camera (not including the likes of GoPro of course).

Go to the shop to shop for yourself. There should be a warranty card for you to fill and if you're doubtful, call the company hotline to verify the serial number (Nikon, Canon, Sony etc.) Test the camera on site (bring a friend who knows about camera gear along with you to test for you if you're worried about it being faulty).
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But the unit that those shop sell with lower price dont have Nikon Malaysia warranty. Those shop only provide 1 year shop's warrant. (Confused)
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post Jul 29 2017, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(foohoa @ Jul 28 2017, 05:43 PM)
go for mirrorless, they are more or same alike, if entry level dslr i would really recommend get a 2nd hand unit, because u dont know what you want at first
Your logic of "2nd hand unit because you don't know what you like" should be applied to mirrorless as well.
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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Jul 28 2017, 09:24 PM)
Can I sway you to mirrorless? Like taikoliam and jijai suggest, you wont regret Sony a6000 unless u always want to take photos in very dim environment where mirrorless will struggle a bit with AF. Somemore, a6000 is very compact and easier to carry around with you compare to most dslr. You wont want to be like countless others who bought dslr and left them at home only after a short while because they are so cumblesome to bring around.


A6000 is nice ......... .until you look at the lenses. Price quite high.

QUOTE(Loseeker @ Jul 28 2017, 09:24 PM)
On the other hand, if u really insist on a nikon dslr, get the nikon d5xxx series, which as Atsumori suggested. I just saw one display unit at a mall yesterday, i got to say, quite sleek looking. If not d5500, get d5300 if that is what u can afford. Never ever go for the d3xxx series unless you can always take photos with good lights. The low light capability of the d3xxx series are absolute pain (for me) to work with in indoor setting. Dont save pennies where you might regret later. Just my 2 cents.
Actually la if you have problem with low light on D3xxx series then D5xxx series also not any much better.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 29 2017, 03:15 AM)
A6000 is nice ......... .until you look at the lenses. Price quite high.
Actually la if you have problem with low light on D3xxx series then D5xxx series also not any much better.
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Is it a wise decision for me to choose d3400 and get a good tripod, extra battery, and remote rather then spend more money on d5300?
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QUOTE(MahathirM7 @ Jul 29 2017, 05:26 AM)
Is it a wise decision for me to choose d3400 and get a good tripod, extra battery,  and remote rather then spend more money on d5300?
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Good tripod applies to even if you're going to get a 20,000 bucks camera. So, that's a given.

Ask yourself, how commited are you in the camera? Will it be a 3-4 months fad or do you intend to be using it for many years to come? If it's the latter, I suggest you to get a more updated model as much as your budget will allow you as to prevent the technology being outdated quickly.

Are you comfortable carrying around an equivalent of a weight of a medium sized hardcover book when walking around? Technology nowadays are swaying towards mirrorless cameras and they are matching and even exceeding dslr in some areas (except Canon EOS M and Nikon 1 series, stay away from these at the moment - sorry Canon and Nikon boys and girls), with the benefit of being lighter and hence more likely to be brought out with you wherever you go.

I have not personally shopped at Miyamondo before. But so as long the paperwork checks out, I don't see any issue buying from them if you find their price meets your budget.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 29 2017, 03:15 AM)
A6000 is nice ......... .until you look at the lenses. Price quite high.

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His budget allows to get it with kit lens. So that's got him covered for now.
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Or save up a bit more and get the RX100 IV. biggrin.gif
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hi! no worry about miyamondo i always bought from them at damansara uptown Miyamondo this shop their service is quite good plus got cantik kakak haha you can ask them also to test before you really bought it. anyway if you bajet is Rm3000Max why not go to sonya 6000 quite good
af compare to your nikon D5300 and d5500 plus. Anyway got other suggestion is you can go to http://www.kldslr.com/ to survey also their shop is on ss2 public bank beside right side upstair only. Cheer and Happy hunting.

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Is it safe and reliable to buy camera from shop such as "Miyamondo'? They offer way more cheaper price for D5300 and D5500. Iworry the unit might be fake or faulty,
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 29 2017, 08:16 AM)
Or save up a bit more and get the RX100 IV. biggrin.gif
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Personally owning the mark3, it's a complementary camera at best if he's interested in photography in the long run. It won't quench his want for a larger sensor camera, plus, if he want more flash than the measly pop up, he's SOOL.
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QUOTE(MahathirM7 @ Jul 29 2017, 05:26 AM)
Is it a wise decision for me to choose d3400 and get a good tripod, extra battery,  and remote rather then spend more money on d5300?
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if u into photography more than videography...d3400 is fine, and it's 3 years newer than d5300. smile.gif

u will improve your skill faster if u use an entry camera actually. biggrin.gif

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Thank you sifus for all you opinion and advice. After a week of thinking I have decided to buy Nikon D5300 although it is a older model. Actually I already bought it yesterday. hehe.. Thanks a lot.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 29 2017, 10:35 AM)
Personally owning the mark3, it's a complementary camera at best if he's interested in photography in the long run. It won't quench his want for a larger sensor camera, plus, if he want more flash than the measly pop up, he's SOOL.
So bad ah? I'm eyeing on Mark IV leh. biggrin.gif As a walk-about camera, after all have 24-70 with wide aperture.

Flippy screen with focus peaking for me to do videos.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 31 2017, 09:55 PM)
So bad ah? I'm eyeing on Mark IV leh. biggrin.gif As a walk-about camera, after all have 24-70 with wide aperture.

Flippy screen with focus peaking for me to do videos.
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It's not bad, a very capable camera. Coming from a Canon or Nikon which doesn't have these functions, it's certainly a joy to use. But my main camera already have them, so it's very much a complementary piece.
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QUOTE(MahathirM7 @ Jul 31 2017, 08:12 PM)
Thank you sifus for all you opinion and advice. After a week of thinking I have decided to buy Nikon D5300 although it is a older model. Actually I already bought it yesterday. hehe.. Thanks a lot.
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Congrat! I think the D5XXX series are good bang for buck camera. Hope you enjoy it. And don't forget to post and share your photos here. thumbup.gif

p/s: If you have some spare money, perhaps invest in a Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.8G if you're into photography. Recently I had the change to play with this lens attached to Nikon D90 of my cousin. I've to admit, viewing from my tablet, I can't really tell the different between D90 from my a6000 (attached Sigma 30 f1.4) despite the year different in age of the 2 cams.
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QUOTE(Loseeker @ Aug 1 2017, 12:00 PM)
Congrat! I think the D5XXX series are good bang for buck camera. Hope you enjoy it. And don't forget to post and share your photos here.  thumbup.gif

p/s: If you have some spare money, perhaps invest in a Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.8G if you're into photography. Recently I had the change to play with this lens attached to Nikon D90 of my cousin. I've to admit, viewing from my tablet, I can't really tell the different between D90 from my a6000 (attached Sigma 30 f1.4) despite the year different in age of the 2 cams.
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Yes, I'm planning to get a prime lens also, and 50mm is my first choice. Have to wait few months maybe to get the money for that. hehe

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