Dear Sifus, need your opinion on this matter.

I copied this from another website I found as I felt that it is a similar issue and it more or less explained the situation.

"I think it can't engage the 4th gear. On highway, after smoothly exceeding about 70~80kph, it like gone into neutral, engine just over-rev on its own. I slow down and then there is a jerk, presumingly engaging back to 3rd gear."

I noticed something similar to the over-rev part. So any opinions on this? Is it a gearbox issue?

What am I looking at in terms of cost of repair if needed?

My Vios was bought in 2011 1.5J Auto

I think all this years never do major service. Only normal service.

Recently at February, at 35,000km did normal service at Toyota Service centre. Other times, over the years I will bring it to the ENEOS workshop near my house for normal service.

Thank you.

Vios got dipstick to check oil level or not?

sarcasm:
maybe not gearbox issue kot..
reason is because gearbox issue only belongs to VW in Malaysia.

serious:
most likely..

Knowing UMW Toyota SC like to do bold claim on Toyota WS is an immortal godly oil, did you change gearbox oil at all?

As far as I can remember, no

OMG. You should sue them of false claims/advertising.

At most, that oil is 60000km.

I changed mine forcefully on 80000km outside and it was kopi-o grade and smelly. And before that, all the while UMWT SA said it was not needed and for lifetime, and some SA said it was 100000km, no idea who were telling the truth back then... well eventually both were bullshitting.

Now I just go 20000km~40000km gear oil change.

Mine was a Vios 2007. If yours 2011 then it is like 7yrs of 'old oil'. Don't flush. Just gradually replace, together with every oil change until it is pink. For me the gear oil takes around 3 to 4 change to reach the pink color status. Oh and the auto filter I change it along with the gear oil until the oil is pink.

Then now, the oil is back to 'normal', I would do 20000km ATF change, and every alternate 20000km I would change the ATF filter.




This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jul 21 2017, 09:25 PM

But is this is what causing my issue at the moment?

I would believe your ATF already losses its ability as lubricant. The cheapest way is to change your ATF before changing any internal parts.

Well even if it was not caused by this, just to add, if you haven't changed the ATF before, it is due. Otherwise you are going for an auto gearbox replacement soon.


[edit] While searching online, originally Toyota ATF WS was rated as 100,000 mile (nothing about immortal or lifetime). With having some failures and reliability issues (notably in may Toyota Tacoma owners), they gradually lower down the claimed 'invincibility' from 100k mile to 80k mile to 60k mile.

While 60k mile is about 97k km, I wouldn't bet on our famous stop-go traffic and hot weather.


This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jul 21 2017, 09:31 PM

Well, I will be hoping changing the ATF solve the issue. Otherwise changing the gearbox will probably cost quite a bit

change oil first, if cannot settle, just sell off the car. No one will test drive till 4th gear. hahaha

Most of time it is sticky transmission solenoid.

Other than SC, are there many outside workshops around Klang Valley that are capable of kaw tim this type of auto trans problem without severe bleeding ?

Suggest you to replace the transmission fluid and ATF filter.

Vios uses the Toyota World Standard (WS) ATF fluid.

Stick with what the rest are asking to do which is to replace the ATF and hopefully it just sticky solenoid. ATF has good detergent hence hopefully it can reverse the solenoid condition, in case if it is the sticky solenoid.

Asking transmission specialist will always cost at least rm1k and above.

If there is fault code appeared before then it is best to diagnose the code. I know a Malay shop in U5 charge rm40 for reading code.

Hi everyone, I just bought secondhand 2016 Vios NCP150 with ODO meter register 8532 km. The problem is the previous owner lost it service book and all the manuals, can I get or buy the books n manuals from Toyota continue to service my car with Toyota warranty. TIA

You sure he "lost" the service manual? Next time insist to only buy a car with proper service record.
Probably the odometer has been tempered with, or he never serviced the car and sell it off after he encountered some issues.
You can check with any Toyota service center for the service history,
I'm suspecting something worse but you can check if the chassis and engine number is correct, and if the car is structurally good (jack up the car and view the bottom of the car and look for patching spots, just to be sure)

Owned. vios 04 B4, smooth as silk, added trans cooler, change trans lub every 25k km.... Solid box

Go change gearoil

Vios has no gearbox issue. My friend told me SC never change oil.

ok. We trust your friend.