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post Apr 3 2007, 05:02 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hey im gonna get my first electric guitar , its gonna be

MIC epiphone lespaul standard ( rm2060 without bag before discount )
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Either Laney amp or Roland amp ... not sure ( about 400-500 )

Im sure about the LP but are laney amps good for my chemical romance and blues type sound ? looking at the laney 35 watt amp
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post Apr 3 2007, 06:10 PM

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which shop is ripping you off on that LP?

all epiphones now come standard with gigbag.
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post Apr 3 2007, 07:56 PM

 
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wow epi LP for a first guitar nice thumbup.gif
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post Apr 3 2007, 08:52 PM

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Sounds like He's getting from Beatspot as they sell both the Laney and Epis.
Be careful.... if you're buying it there, they are all MIC (Made In China) which is inferior to the MIK models (Made in Korea).... but if you're buying new, it's hard to track down a MIK model.

RM2050 for a MIC Epi LP Std WITHOUT gigbag is c-crazy....... If I'm not mistaken, Harmony in Uptown is selling MIK Epis at a much cheaper price..... is that right EverDying? Please re-confirm this.

And if you're after MCR's sound.... I suggest investing a little more and get yourself a Vox AD30VT... it's about RM1000, but hopefully with discount, they can bring it down..... Also, you might shave off a few bucks with the cheaper LP std.

If the AD30VT is out of your reach still.... maybe the AD15VT would be more then sufficient for Bedroom jamming.
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post Apr 3 2007, 08:57 PM

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i dont recall harmony having any MIK's there.
so i guess they'll have to order, and im sure they can also give a better price.

and yea, i wouldnt suggest those MIC's at beatspot.
like i said before, i tried 5 set neck models they had there, 4 standards, 1 special.
none of them felt right, neck too thin, body too light.
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post Apr 3 2007, 10:24 PM

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I am buying from harmony... they say its 2060 for epip lp


Added on April 3, 2007, 10:27 pmbetter call him up and ask for hardcase

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post Apr 3 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 3 2007, 08:57 PM)
i dont recall harmony having any MIK's there.
so i guess they'll have to order, and im sure they can also give a better price.

and yea, i wouldnt suggest those MIC's at beatspot.
like i said before, i tried 5 set neck models they had there, 4 standards, 1 special.
none of them felt right, neck too thin, body too light.
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there is a MIK custom there
cherry burst like urs with flame veneer
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its in bad shape tho
strings are rusty, frets dirty and its missing the truss rod cover

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Check with them and see if it's a MIK you're buying or a MIC.....
It's easy to tell.... there's a sticker at the back saying it's a MIC or MIK tongue.gif
If you're STILL uncertain, I'm sure you can arrange with one of our "veterans" here to meet up and test the guitar.

EverDying's time is precious, but he's our resident Gibson/Epiphone expert here.....
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 3 2007, 09:52 PM)
Sounds like He's getting from Beatspot as they sell both the Laney and Epis.
Be careful.... if you're buying it there, they are all MIC (Made In China) which is inferior to the MIK models (Made in Korea).... but if you're buying new, it's hard to track down a MIK model.

RM2050 for a MIC Epi LP Std WITHOUT gigbag is c-crazy....... If I'm not mistaken, Harmony in Uptown is selling MIK Epis at a much cheaper price..... is that right EverDying? Please re-confirm this.

And if you're after MCR's sound.... I suggest investing a little more and get yourself a Vox AD30VT... it's about RM1000, but hopefully with discount, they can bring it down..... Also, you might shave off a few bucks with the cheaper LP std.

If the AD30VT is out of your reach still.... maybe the AD15VT would be more then sufficient for Bedroom jamming.
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I would suggest otherwise... AD 30VT is freaking heavy and quite big for bedroom jamming... Vox pathfinder 15R would make a good investment.. or if he wans more stuff to toy around with, get a microcube or DA-5...


QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 3 2007, 06:02 PM)
Hey im gonna get my first electric guitar , its gonna be

MIC epiphone lespaul standard ( rm2060 without bag before discount )
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Either Laney amp or Roland amp ... not sure ( about 400-500 )

Im sure about the LP but are laney amps good for my chemical romance and blues type sound ? looking at the laney 35 watt amp
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i heard there is alot of inconsistency in the MIC LP, the wood shows an alder instead of mahogany, necks etc... i suggest u reconsider ur option... many of the experienced one i believe would suggest u go against it...

For Rm2k plus... u can try getting MIJ guitars from singapore or get the Highway one from Everdying.. Those i believe would be a much better investment compared to the MICs

If u insist on humbucker, there is always ibanez, yamaha etc.. alternatively, u can get good started guitars worth few hundred such as SX before diving all the way getting a Rm2k guitar...

Just my 2cents...
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 3 2007, 11:37 PM)
Check with them and see if it's a MIK you're buying or a MIC.....
It's easy to tell.... there's a sticker at the back saying it's a MIC or MIK tongue.gif
If you're STILL uncertain, I'm sure you can arrange with one of our "veterans" here to meet up and test the guitar.

EverDying's time is precious, but he's our resident Gibson/Epiphone expert here.....
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there is a MIC standard there
with rusty strings and dirty frets

i was there a couple o days ago
to get jazz III picks
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post Apr 3 2007, 11:46 PM

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Well, he's looking for the MCR tone.....
And that's a Warm Amp + Les Paul......

I think...... tongue.gif

I think their guitarist uses an Epi Elite LP......
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didnt someone post one a shop letting go their MIK at a cheap price?
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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Apr 3 2007, 11:46 PM)
Well, he's looking for the MCR tone.....
And that's a Warm Amp + Les Paul......

I think...... tongue.gif

I think their guitarist uses an Epi Elite LP......
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from some guitar mags cover
yea it looks like an epi lp custom elitist

haha
i remember asking my friend
omg u bought the mag for MCR?!?!??!?!
he said "nooooooo, look inside"

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Through the Fire and Flames tabs

then i went shocking.gif

btw beatspot is in the curve right?
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post Apr 4 2007, 12:16 AM

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Well..for MCR they dont have a distinctive sound.Its your typical punk rock sound, lots of distortion.
But their lead guitarist, Ray Toro, has a quite sweet sound. He uses LOTS of LP's, all mostly Epi Elitist, and Gibsons.

The LP standard you're getting may get you close to MCR's tone. smile.gif
But one thing....CREATE your own. You dont wanna be playing using that same tone all day long..

Play around with the EQ smile.gif.
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differentiating MIC or MIK is very easy even if they remove the sticker.

all MIC serials have TWO LETTERS before it, usually EE or DW.
MIK all ONE LETTER.
of cos MIJ is another story.

but basically thats all there is to it.

i also seen MIC with a nice stamp/logo that says crafted in china just behind the headstock.
that one is lacquered over so ppl cannot cheat tongue.gif

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With a Rm2k budget, he can get alot of things in Malaysia, but i would really advise going against MIC seeing the many bad rep they got... plus with so many counterfeits in the market, i think ther is high chances of getting conned if went into the wrong shop...

Everdying, have u tried the SX LP?? heard some good reviews from singapore forummers...
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never really bothered to try the SX LP, only the strats.

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On second thought.. if i were in his foot, i would have got a better amp like ac15, blues junior and spend less on the guitar... I didnt do that last time when i have the cash.. now think about it.. could ve got a good amp..
Instead i bought the ad 30vt due to marketing tricks about tube and stuff... i was a noob then.. lol biggrin.gif
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post Apr 4 2007, 07:34 AM

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i thought normally ppl will go for good amp first then only get a good guitar?
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most ppl's budget for amp is usually below RM1k, unless of cos you're a rockstar wannabe then go all out and get a proper halfstack.
also most of them are blinded by all the effects found on the amps now.
in the end they get like a jack of all trades amp, and of cos master of none.
like Mr.Z has found out about the AD30 tongue.gif

but still, its better to get a good guitar and a decent amp.
at least you can still enjoy playing guitar, rather than cursing the stupidly setup guitar etc etc.

anyway, my fender should be sold by tonight.
and i actually had a offer from netherlands for the samick V tongue.gif
of cos the shipping would've killed the price, so called it off.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 4 2007, 11:52 AM)
most ppl's budget for amp is usually below RM1k, unless of cos you're a rockstar wannabe then go all out and get a proper halfstack.
also most of them are blinded by all the effects found on the amps now.
in the end they get like a jack of all trades amp, and of cos master of none.
like Mr.Z has found out about the AD30 tongue.gif

but still, its better to get a good guitar and a decent amp.
at least you can still enjoy playing guitar, rather than cursing the stupidly setup guitar etc etc.

anyway, my fender should be sold by tonight.
and i actually had a offer from netherlands for the samick V tongue.gif
of cos the shipping would've killed the price, so called it off.
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Lol... true.. i sold it off after i found out the truth about the marketing gimmick.. was annoyed by some problem like heavy, buzzing, take up too much of my bedroom... But it was a decent amp for the price... tongue.gif
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the ones from harmony are MIC , they ship in from sweelee...

well im only interested in les pauls , so are the mic epiphones truly crappy like wood and pickups or just not as good as mik ones but still a great guitar ?

i may go with roland cube 15x


Added on April 4, 2007, 6:51 pmjust called harmony , the guy said epiphones now mic and DOESNT COME WITH HARDCASE... what should i do

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wow..i just went beat spot on Wednesday

their prices are fvcking crazy man...

Epi MIC LP 1956 reissue Gold top..RM3888

they fvcking stupid or something..

the Epi LP standard Ebony color..is RM2882 .. thumbup.gif

if a 1956 gold top is 3888..i wouldn't wanna ask how much is their Epi ZW signature series...4.5k?
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Hollee crap! That's a MAJOR rip-off!!!!!!
I think you have to REALLY Bargain them down.

Poor people who buy from BeatSpot without consulting our forums first........
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QUOTE(gapnap @ Apr 5 2007, 06:17 PM)
wow..i just went beat spot on Wednesday

their prices are fvcking crazy man...

Epi MIC LP 1956 reissue Gold top..RM3888

they fvcking stupid or something..

the Epi LP standard Ebony color..is RM2882 .. thumbup.gif

if a 1956 gold top is 3888..i wouldn't wanna ask how much is their Epi ZW signature series...4.5k?
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i think they saw you walk in, and then immediately thought.
'ok, this kid sure we can rip off maximum one' tongue.gif

if not mistaken, they were selling the camo ZW for around RM3000+.

so for sure the rest will be cheaper.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 5 2007, 08:16 PM)
i think they saw you walk in, and then immediately thought.
'ok, this kid sure we can rip off maximum one' tongue.gif

if not mistaken, they were selling the camo ZW for around RM3000+.

so for sure the rest will be cheaper.
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serious ah. i talked to the dude who doesn't know sh1t about guitars..

he's an indian , more to the drums side i think

the worse sh1t about beatspot is there is no price tag..ghey
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Hmmmmmm.... ZW Camo for Rm3000.............
Add in EMG 81/85...... RM3700......

TEMPTING>...............................................................
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oh..do sell me your EMG Hz..

i am looking for 1 set tongue.gif
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i want a les paul but my dad doesnt trust things made in china and says i should get the godin sd (made in usa) or find another guitar... but wtf !! i want a les paul and dual humbuckers
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then ask him buy a gibson lp.
sure he keep quiet and get the epi instead tongue.gif

godin, btw is not made in USA.
just assembled, the parts/wood etc are from canada.
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yes parts and stuff from canada... missed tht out...

seriously is epiphone mic a good guitar not comparing with the mik epiphone...

will it LAST many years?
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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 6 2007, 02:43 PM)
yes parts and stuff from canada... missed tht out...

seriously is epiphone mic a good guitar not comparing with the mik epiphone...

will it LAST many years?
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depends on how you maintain it ..

Godin guitars...the build and quality is great...but..its ugly.. blush.gif

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ok... lets say i really maintain it , wipe it with those oil and all tht .. it will definatly last rite

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 6 2007, 05:39 PM)
ok... lets say i really maintain it , wipe it with those oil and all tht .. it will definatly last rite
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Seriously, if u really like it just buy it.. i believe despite our negative comment, u are quite set on getting the epi mic... U just wan someone to reinforce ur decissions... wink.gif

And trust me... most guitar wont break down that easily despite harsh treatment.. and u dont need them to last u a century... Before the time it breaks down .. u ll probably be eyeing on ur second guitar...

If ur dad is keen on getting u something from US, be grateful but make sure u love that guitar before buying it.. otherwise u wont wanna play it.. U can ask other forummers here for oppinion on other type of guitars besides the epi..

My dad doesnt pay a cent for my gears... and literally has to beg him to give me a nod for me to buy an electric last time..(i already has a clasical guitar.. he doesnt sees the point of getting an electric..) be grateful that ur dad is encouraging u to get one good guitar... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 6 2007, 02:08 PM)
i want a les paul but my dad doesnt trust things made in china and says i should get the godin sd (made in usa) or find another guitar... but wtf !! i want a les paul and dual humbuckers
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isnt godin mostly from canada?
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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 6 2007, 04:39 PM)
ok... lets say i really maintain it , wipe it with those oil and all tht .. it will definatly last rite
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yeah mate..

but if i have a 2k budget..and i want a LES PAUL...

why not eye on some LTD , grassroots , Edwards (top up a lil ) , Dillion , Agile..
anything that isn't from China

don't spend 2k on a MIC..

and if i were you..i go www.lelong.com.my

search for the used Gibson Les Paul Studio ..that is Rm2.8k ..buy it straight tongue.gif
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LTD's are now indonesia.
Agile? thought those are china?

wait la, that LP studio is gonna be mine.
theres a reason why my fender was sold.
and its not rm2.8k, its called lelong tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 7 2007, 01:14 AM)
LTD's are now indonesia.
Agile? thought those are china?

wait la, that LP studio is gonna be mine.
theres a reason why my fender was sold.
and its not rm2.8k, its called lelong tongue.gif
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even the Higher range of LTD EC's are Indonesian ? those that comes with Seymour duncans ?

oh fvck...

last time i heard Agile is from Korea ? i think it was jamtank doh.gif
lol...Black guitars turns me off (accept for a custom or maple fingerboard)..you can have it tongue.gif
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Then...go to ishibashi, get one of those Fernandes / Burny.
They're made in Japan.

Probably costs you around 70k Yen, about...2kRM?
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QUOTE(gapnap @ Apr 7 2007, 10:19 AM)
lol...Black guitars turns me off (accept for a custom or maple fingerboard)..you can have it  tongue.gif
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its not black.
the gem series as you know follows colors of gems.
that one is emerald, guess cos of the bad lighting it looks black.

i've seen better pics before of others, has a slight green tint to it.

anyway, im waiting to see how dumb the bidders can be, if they actually push up the price of it to higher than market like i've seen before.

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i heard the higher end LTDs are MIK
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how high?
apparently the RM3k++ LTDs sold here are also indonesia.
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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Apr 7 2007, 11:43 AM)
Then...go to ishibashi, get one of those Fernandes / Burny.
They're made in Japan.

Probably costs you around 70k Yen, about...2kRM?
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burny / fernandes ones cost 45k yen
bout rm1.2k
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ok lets say i look for other guitar brands , it has to be a les paul and bought from a shop , no online no second hand... what other brands are there besides sx
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How about PRS SE ?

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/product/b...ku=519375%2e001

Dont know how much they cost here in Msia tho, its a PRS and its body looks like a les paul
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nah dont like it
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what is wrong with a used epi lp?
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my dad wont buy it ...so far ive only like the epiphone les paul
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Since you already know what you want, then get the epi les paul regardless of whether its MIC or MIK or MIJ.

Malaysia dont have much option, music shop here doesnt offer us alot of choices, its like take it or leave it kinda attitude

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yea i know ... really limited here ... took me so long to find a place tht brings in epi...

i just wanna know whether it will last and the quality of it
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yea, since you want it, go get it.
why are you even looking at other options.

your best bet is to go back harmony, tell him that SG has some MIK, and ask him to order it.
thats where he gets the stock from right?
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he gets from swee lee .. but he said dont have mik 1s only mic
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so why dont you call sweelee and ask?
their number on the website.
cos the ppl at harmony are very blur.

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 7 2007, 03:21 PM)
yea i know ... really limited here ... took me so long to find a place tht brings in epi...

i just wanna know whether it will last and the quality of it
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Dont worry about quality, as long as you got good tone wood in it, the is no crack in the body and the neck is not warped, the rest can be fixed. Bad electronics can be swapped out, lousy tuners can be changed, lousy bridges can be changed, lousy PU can be changed.

Moreover its not like you are gona stick with stock for long, sooner or later you'll swapped out the PUs. Like i said as long as the body and neck is alright, the rest can be changed or repaired.

Also i saw in some singapore forums, they said sweelee has run out of MIK epis already, currently in stocks are all MIC. You can always try to call sweelee to confirm tho.

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so what do i have to check and test when getting epiphone
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or just get the LP Custom, those are still MIK.
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yea and is over my budget 2

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anyway, if sweelee are indeed out of MIK, then too bad for you.

there are other stores in SG that have MIK, davis has the old slash LP signature for SGD950.
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nvm.. ill get the epiphone instead.. what should i check before paying
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post Apr 7 2007, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Apr 7 2007, 01:12 AM)
search for the used Gibson Les Paul Studio ..that is Rm2.8k ..buy it straight  tongue.gif
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the stupidity of lelong shows itself again.
dunno how many times already.

the studio ended at RM3489.
i order from overseas and shipping all still cheaper than that tongue.gif

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post Apr 8 2007, 12:28 AM

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haha. but still nothing compared to whoever that 'mat salleh' the guys from yamaha sold the ultra light, bad pickups, epiphone quality workmanship, 'gibson supreme' for 16k.
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i still dont believe that story of a matsalleh guy buying it for rm16k.

when you played it, you didnt notice anything unusual?

im sure you wouldve noticed the ebony fretboard, and also no cavity behind to access to pots.
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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 7 2007, 04:37 PM)
so what do i have to check and test when getting epiphone
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i suggest u get one of the experienced forrummers here to accompany u when u buy a guitar.. maybe a teh tarik after that would do tongue.gif


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what? i can change title now? OMG
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at last i bought a decent amps.. wahaha behringer firebird gx108 for my bass and marshall MG10CD

rm300 for the marshall and 420 for the behringer.. isit cheap or expensive ? i bought a shop at kuala terengganu.. haha.. i bough a drumset withme so the tokei say they give the amp cheap2 price biggrin.gif currently happy with the amp~
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hey guys how bout this guitar ?

http://www.guitar-collection.com.my/2nd/el...ipseictmpl.html

how much is it?
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post Apr 9 2007, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(svrockstar @ Apr 9 2007, 02:32 PM)
hey guys how bout this guitar ?

http://www.guitar-collection.com.my/2nd/el...ipseictmpl.html

how much is it?
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prob 8-10k

in singapore , 1950sgd before disc
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post Apr 9 2007, 03:07 PM

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esp ec 500? how much is tht

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post Apr 9 2007, 07:27 PM

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svrockstar,

If you want to ask how much guitar ABC cost ... please do so at the Musicians Instrument Price List Thread, All Instruments thread.

I think your question on which amp to get has been answered already, so we're closing this thread. Anything PM us.




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