I see that most people nowadays are crazy about the Saw films, so I thought I would open a thread about this movie. Screw the Saw movies, here's the real deal we should appreciate.

A stunning movie, in my opinion. Right from the start, the awesome opening credits, the viewer is sucked in, right till the final scene of the film. A lot of people have said the ending is "an explosive, mind-blowing, spectacular twist" but personally I dont think it's a twist at all, it aint that explosive or mind-blowing either, but still a pretty damn brilliant surprise ending. In all fairness though the film isn't centered on the ending itself. Everything else works. The visual style is really dark and moody and depressing, the music is great, good acting from everyone, tight script, and a razor-sharp direction by David Fincher. This is quite possibly visually the blackest film I've ever seen. I have never seen so much black in a movie before. The NIN and Bowie tracks in the opening and end credit are brilliant too.

It's not gory actually, since almost none of the killings are on-screen. All you see are afterviews of the murders at the crime scene. This would later on be shunned for the "all-gore"-ness of movies like Saw and Hostel and The Texas Chainsaw remake/prequel. Here everything is in your head. You don't have unnecessary gore at all. (Of course I'm not really saying gore is bad, but this is so much better executed.)

One of the best serial killer movies, ever. One of my favourite. Saw is nothing compared to this.

9.5/10

The first Saw was badly acted (actually this applied to all 3 of the Saws) and the final twist was cheaply added in just for the shock effect imo. Also,

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Added on April 2, 2007, 7:04 pmWhy should you bring the box office gross into this? How a movie does at the BO has nothing to do with its quality... but I wouldnt call Saw a bad film at all. It's above average but nothing great.

This post has been edited by QuickFire: Apr 2 2007, 07:04 PM

hey man, I did it because I lent se7en to my friends and they came back telling me "wtf la, they never show the killings also, where got nice, saw so much better la. this one so boring... somemore so long more than 2 hours."

also, both films can be compared imo, since I think it was se7en that inspired Saw.


This post has been edited by QuickFire: Apr 2 2007, 07:23 PM

well said. I envy (oh no I'm a sinner!) you for having friends who can appreciate films. Mine have been MTVed... I just lent The Godfather to one of them, cant wait to see their response tomorrow. I doubt he can even finish the 3-hour film.

hey man, dont jerk me off.

ok let's just forget about this comparing thing.

I didnt really wanna compare anyway, but my friends coming up to me and saying "seven sucks. saw rocks" just made me do this... in fact I'm showing this thread to my friends. They wagered that no one will like seven over saw. Ha.

and it's not like these two films are incomparable. they do share similarities and I do believe Se7en spawned movies like Saw. but ok la, let's stop comparing since it's already a fact which is better.

This post has been edited by QuickFire: Apr 3 2007, 06:56 PM

actually I believe mentioning Spacey is a spoiler itself. Spacey himself suggested his name be removed from the opening credits, so that when people finally see him in the film, they will go "omg it's kevin spacey!!".

Nah I'm sure the John Doe term existed long before the film.