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 Honda Accord 2018... ok or not, utube live press release

new accord... ok or not?
 
yeah...looks good [ 96 ] ** [43.44%]
nay...civic better [ 57 ] ** [25.79%]
not sure...wait protong rebadge [ 15 ] ** [6.79%]
jdm sux...conti ftw [ 19 ] ** [8.60%]
cant afford...drive bezza only [ 34 ] ** [15.38%]
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post Jul 17 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jul 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
I somehow found that the button look great , at least it now become more advance and like driving an airplane , the traditional gear stick is outdated if this is coming on, just like how i love the electronic parking brake vs the old school one haha
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Despite more modern planes are now fly-by-wire, the thrust adjusters are still operated with a leaver.

It is up to personal taste, but the intuitive-ness is definitely lost here for those driven with stick; unless the 1st car the newbie driver touches is a car like that cool2.gif

Will see how things goes. But i can understand the fact that why honda implemented this is to totally let the driver forget about the existence of the transmission after reading a reviewers perspective :

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/07/m...s-10-speed-not/
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looks like the the sales champion will go back to the camry this time round
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post Jul 21 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(sgmerc168 @ Jul 21 2017, 12:03 PM)
looks like the the sales champion will go back to the camry this time round
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Unlikely,

Between the inelegantly designed front face of the accord and the epic airdam grin of the new camry, the accord will be the lesser of 2 evils.
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post Jul 21 2017, 03:26 PM

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Have to see the actual price vs spec compared against Camry & other competitors.


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post Jul 31 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jul 17 2017, 12:27 AM)
Fully agree with the observation above. Just ugly face, ugly rear end, and bad side profile too, just all  around bad design and exact opposite of the outgoing model which IMHO was a very pretty design actually!
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Here's the reason for the accord's design : http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/07/2...rican-sunlight/

Main highlight : mega_shok.gif
“Though we are a Japanese team, the light is different in Japan,” Morikawa told Automobile. “We wanted to feel like Americans to better create the design.”

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 31 2017, 11:02 AM)
Here's the reason for the accord's design : http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/07/2...rican-sunlight/

Main highlight :  mega_shok.gif
“Though we are a Japanese team, the light is different in Japan,” Morikawa told Automobile. “We wanted to feel like Americans to better create the design.”

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We shall see if that will resurrect Accord sales in the US.
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Depending on pricing, spec that we will get. New Accord will face tough competition with their long lost rival, Camry.
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post Oct 4 2017, 04:39 PM

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For those interested, here's a short drive review :

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/10/2...-will-sell-lot/



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post Oct 4 2017, 06:17 PM

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2.0 and 1.5T only for Msia. 2.0T is premium segment which should be priced at around 260k if they decide to bring in.

It would be a bitch if they use CVT on the 1.5T.......really really a bitch....
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Oct 4 2017, 06:17 PM)
2.0 and 1.5T only for Msia. 2.0T is premium segment which should be priced at around 260k if they decide to bring in.

It would be a bitch if they use CVT on the 1.5T.......really really a bitch....
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it was designed that way for the new 1.5T, which couple with CVT.
believed new accord 2018 will follow same configuration as CRV and CIVIC

or else take the 2.0T which comes with 10 gear torque converter based
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2017, 09:03 PM)
it was designed that way for the new 1.5T, which couple with CVT.
believed new accord 2018 will follow same configuration as CRV and CIVIC

or else take the 2.0T which comes with 10 gear torque converter based
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Hopefully there will be some surprise. Current 2.4 was suppose to be mated with a CVT as well but it got mated with the legacy 5 speed.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 4 2017, 09:03 PM)
it was designed that way for the new 1.5T, which couple with CVT.
believed new accord 2018 will follow same configuration as CRV and CIVIC

or else take the 2.0T which comes with 10 gear torque converter based
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Most likely like the Honda CRV, 2.0NA and 1.5T.
Honda Malaysia surely won't bring in the 2.0T which replace the 3.5L V6 engine.

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QUOTE(tekplyrX @ Jul 15 2017, 12:02 AM)
fastback like perdana?? serious fail
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even the new civic got fastback design (note the small boot lid).
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QUOTE(khanninah @ Oct 10 2017, 05:18 PM)
260k ? utter nonsense. optima gt how much ? passat highline how much ?
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What was the 3.5 priced at before? I believe it would be around that number.


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post Oct 10 2017, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(khanninah @ Oct 10 2017, 06:55 PM)
no it wont. lower cc car have lower tax rate. also previous 3.5 was imported in very small batch. if honda gonna push for high sales numbers then economies of scale will lower the cost.

anyway no need to believe here believe there. it will be priced to match its competitors which are optima gt and passat highline.
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Doubt it will be that range but we will see in a year. Not even sure if malaysia will bring in the 2.0T. We have always been deprived of the higher end models.
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QUOTE(khanninah @ Oct 10 2017, 09:55 PM)
we have always had 2 different engines for the accord range since the past decade.  are u suggesting honda malaysia will break with past tradition and only offer a single engine option for 2018 accord ?
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Nopes. Just saying that Accord 2018 will be a 2.0 ( circa 140k and maybe 5k higher for the VTI-L trim ) and 1.5T ( 165ish k to upper 170k ) variant. Look at the CRV. It will be interesting to see where honda prices the 2.0T if it decides to bring it in........ Optima GT is at 180k and 242HP but it's funny that Honda and Toyota are not too worried about this? Just take a look at the current price point of 2.4 ( accord, 165k ) and 2.5 ( camry, 160-170k ) which generates 65 or more HP less than the Optima.


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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Oct 10 2017, 09:30 PM)
Doubt it will be that range but we will see in a year. Not even sure if malaysia will bring in the 2.0T. We have always been deprived of the higher end models.
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For sure our market will be with 2.0NA and 1.5T.
That 2.0 NA will have another new life?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 11 2017, 12:46 PM)
For sure our market will be with 2.0NA and 1.5T.
That 2.0 NA will have another new life?
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I suppose you can look at the CRV line up and roughly you will be able to guess what 2018 Accord line up would be. Pricing is about the same as what we have today for 2.0 and 2.4, it won't defer much. 2.0 NA would have modest change in specs. Whether 2.0T will come in or not, it would be brought in as CBU but only to a certain niche market.
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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Oct 11 2017, 02:37 PM)
I suppose you can look at the CRV line up and roughly you will be able to guess what 2018 Accord line up would be. Pricing is about the same as what we have today for 2.0 and 2.4, it won't defer much. 2.0 NA would have modest change in specs. Whether 2.0T will come in or not, it would be brought in as CBU but only to a certain niche market.
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Honda malaysia will like turbocharge the whole line up of accord, there won't be 2L and 2.4L NA engine. They won't launch the 2.0T at the get go, could delay a little bit to gauge market response. But i feel the market will want it even if it is priced above the current 2.4 NA engine spec.

Optima GT aside, Honda will be able to claim the performance crown for high volume mainstream D segment. A very good boost to their image and also pricing capability.
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Oct 11 2017, 02:51 PM)
Honda malaysia will like turbocharge the whole line up of accord, there won't be 2L and 2.4L NA engine. They won't launch the 2.0T at the get go, could delay a little bit to gauge market response. But i feel the market will want it even if it is priced above the current 2.4 NA engine spec.

Optima GT aside, Honda will be able to claim the performance crown for high volume mainstream D segment. A very good boost to their image and also pricing capability.
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2.0T will be priced way beyond 2.4 today. If it's below 200k, rest assured, I will be the first one to get it. lol

There will be no more 2.4L but will have 2.0NA and 1.5T, they will be crazy to maintain the 2.4 NA. This is to maximize reuse of the current inventory in Msia.

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