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littlefire
post Aug 25 2017, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 25 2017, 10:22 AM)
I wonder why people here in Malaysia are so obsessed or persistent with AWD, it consume more fuel and cost more in term of maintenance.

As recalled, the reason why my dad have to sold his 3rd gen Honda CRV is because the AWD differential located at the back axel is malfunctioned, causes gear slipped and others problem.

People perception upon all wheel drive are handling, the superior grip during initial acceleration and grip during cornering. But all these are pointless to this gen CRV, this car is not meant for cornering, isn't it? I bet you won't feel any different if you test drive the 2 wheel and 4 wheel back to back. 4 wheel one also won't out run 2 wheel while off the line.

All wheel drive is important at country which snowing during winter time. Here in Malaysia don't snow, also, most people uses truck for off road instead of Compact SUV.

So the choice is basically yours.
IMHO, Honda sensing is way more important than AWD, as tested, it work flawlessly.

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Sorry to differ AWD not only for snow or off-road condition, raining or wet condition does help with AWD especially flash flood or sudden heavy rain at highways.

AWD vs FWD vs RWD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlnw2SUgY6U


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post Aug 25 2017, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 25 2017, 04:07 PM)
Yes, it does help in wet condition, only when you're doing 150-200 km/h on freeway without turn on your tracking control.
Would you ask yourself: should I hit the highway when it is pouring outside and my car only move with its front wheel?
When the car slipped and about to loss tracking, there are tracking control (Honda called Vehicle Stability Assist) come into play to bring the car back on track by applying the brakes to any individual wheel or adjusting the engine output.
This gen CRV also come with Agile Handling Assist (AHA), which basically identical to Mazda G-vectoring Control, it reduce engine torque and apply brake pressure on individual wheel during cornering.
So in wet condition, tracking or stability control is more important than all wheel drive.

Also, the video you shown demonstrate the AWD tracking with hot-hatch is actually inappropriate here.
Please refer to this link, this is how people test the ALL WHEEL DRIVE on SUV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B0VpJGdz40

The purpose of AWD in a hot hatch is differ from SUV because you don't speed and corner with your SUV.
Let's make thing simple, the purpose of AWD in SUV pull or push you out when you're stuck in snow or mud. It give you extra traction during off road condition, when one wheel is stuck, it uses another wheel for traction.

So now ask yourself, do you need AWD?  rolleyes.gif
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The link i shared is to show that they are difference in wet condition (they are not racing & absolutely nothing in common in terms of power, torque or gearbox ) for different type of drivetrain and Subaru Impreza hatchback is not a hot hatch but rather a basic AWD system (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBQlK89PyxQ) to show that it does have its benefits compare to other superior FWD & RWD car. AWD is to transfer traction to each wheel efficiently and in wet condition it does help driver to control their vehicle more better compare to counterparts. The video it self does have lots of the driver comments of it and they also survived in their own vehicle with the electronic stability control on. Yes, 2WD with all the electronics can still save your life, but AWD will always have an upper hand during emergency as per mention above. Anyway Honda CRV 1.5T AWD should also have all the safety features add on except for the Honda Sense.

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post Oct 26 2018, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(luvox @ Oct 22 2018, 12:03 AM)
Nope, weekend family car. But im partial environmental responsible person (since suv is not fuel efficient car 😂), prefer eco friendly car than less fuel efficient car. I still love my old honda jazz hybrid cbu
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If you love environment friendly/fuel efficient SUV in it's class, you are looking at the wrong car.
Mazda CX5 SUV is the market leader for fuel efficient currently with it's skyactive engine.

https://www.carbase.my/car-comparison?id=HG...93je,JQklVo2Rfm,
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post Dec 18 2018, 11:02 PM

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Not to spam or talk bad about CRV/Civic 1.5T engine, but in US warmer states been reporting oil/fuel diluting issues. I believe Malaysian owners should also be aware of this as it is going to be a global thing. Not only in colder climate countries.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-repair-...-rollout-plans/

"But some consumers say the problem occurs in warmer-weather states, too. For example, CR has heard from CR-V owners in Arizona, California, Delaware, Texas, and Nevada. And the database maintained by NHTSA includes accounts of this oil-gas mixture problem from CR-V owners in Kentucky, Oregon, Tennessee, and Virginia."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVdKNRgzGT8

Honda even came out a video mention this oil/fuel diluting issues is in most cases, that’s okay. “What you’re seeing is a normal occurrence for this engine,” the video states.
“Some engine oil dilution is normal, even in warmer-weather states,” Martin says. doh.gif
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post Dec 24 2018, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(l2k @ Dec 24 2018, 10:45 AM)
Compare to my previous NA 1.8 car, I do notice CRV turbo has much more efficient cooling as she seems to require slighly more distance for the engine to reach working temperature. Don't get me wrong, usually working temperature will be reached in around 2km of continuous driving, in the morning. I do notice idling for long time doesn't really help in warming up.

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Bro, modern cars now require to heat up as fast as possible to hit working temperature to reduce cold start emission, that why you got thermostat, EGR & VVT at exhaust cam shalf to help warm up fast. I believe this is why a lot of issue happen at colder climates regarding the oil/fuel dilution as if the engine is hard to warm up to reach optimum working temperature in a short time, fuel is easier to leak through the piston rings as it is not warm up/expand completely to prevent the outcome. I believe the update is to remap the fuel timing & adjust the VVT opening range to help reach the working temperature fast.

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