Crv ehev waiting 1 year, is it so hot sell?
LYN Official Honda CR-V (Gen5/Gen6) thread V1, Gen5 CRV is launched
LYN Official Honda CR-V (Gen5/Gen6) thread V1, Gen5 CRV is launched
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May 20 2024, 01:00 PM
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Crv ehev waiting 1 year, is it so hot sell?
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May 22 2024, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 21 2024, 08:22 AM) The factory stop production or reduced capacity for RS, don't know if shortage of parts or chips or prepare production lines for other models such as City Hatchback. If I'm not wrong Civic last time when in first year also face similar situation. ah i see, maybe also hot selling RS. my friend took civic ehev instead, cant wait 1 year lol. |
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May 24 2024, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ May 24 2024, 03:51 PM) Wtf 1 year is a bit crazy... I'm going to test drive CR-V RS next week and SA in Penang said ETA 4 months lol last time when hrv rs ehev also i test drive then booking the SA say 1 and half year This post has been edited by ben3003: May 24 2024, 03:58 PM |
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May 24 2024, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ May 24 2024, 04:33 PM) What the... lol they launch new cars and the e:HEV versions but maybe those don't sell too well so the production line is 99% dedicated to the petrol variants. Man, what a letdown. i think ehev gets more parts outside malaysia, battery, motor, all those. And yeah less ppl buy but they now no more like civic rs, got rs petrol and non petrol and very much diff also the spec wise. So probably wanna make ppl shift to hybrid more. I think the worse is hrv ehev and v spec is like almost no diff accessories wise lol. I see crv very much diff. I can say the ehev engine is really well designed and drive much better and comfort. No feel vibration at all when driving. But idle when engine kicks in will like normal car idling la. Only idle can feel. If car creeping also wont feel engine kick in.I'll still go ahead with the test drive next week for RS e:HEV but if the wait is longer than 4 months I'll probably just sit this one out for a while since my old Civic FC 2018 is still okay. Havent test drive crv but i believe shud be much more comfort, but i dont like suv driving anyway, too floaty not my type, especially at sarawak small town here the road is uneven, really feel like driving boat. If sedan at least not floaty but drive fast just feel very rough and risk underbody kena scratch lol. Probably next time send car service test drive crv rs. This post has been edited by ben3003: May 24 2024, 05:34 PM KingArthurVI liked this post
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May 29 2024, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ May 29 2024, 08:40 AM) Actually e-CVT do have a transmission...I found that out, when I look up and saw a transmission fluid changes albeit at much lesser cost and much longer change interval. Then when you read up a little on e-CVT....the transmission have way lesser gears vs the CVT, auto and manual gears transmission as it runs on a single speed. In that sense, yes, lesser chances of failure due to lesser parts and the transmission will last very long but they are still risk for transmission repair and failure via wear and tear but in much longer period. atkinson cycle is not complex. it is just camshaft diff abit. and it does help abit with some fuel air mixture push back to intake manifold during cycle, hence less carbon deposit issue. i think the debate goes on but hybrid sales is blowing off the chart outside of malaysia, the system is much more matured than EV. Honda EHEV is a win and brilliant solution for hybrid, it just drives so well without the whining that u get from toyota. Toyota hybrid really drive like a CVT, but honda drive like normal transmission car. i believe motor wont be more expensive than engine. and motor actually doesnt have any friction also, hence less wear and tear issue.Hybrid have way less repair in general BUT when a repair is needed especially from the the electrical motor portion, it WILL be very costly, there is no doubt about that. EV has the same problem but with very much higher cost of repair when a failure occur especially in distance future. eHev has additional clutches system for the engine/transmission connection (when switching to pure engine drive), that is additional complexity over the T hybrid but it does gives better driving experience. That is why, in my opinion H makes better hybrid design meant for driver experience but that also means more complexity and less reliability than T. Cost wise T hybrid is way more reliable, that is the give and take of H vs T design. Turbo maintenance is a real concern if car kept for long term as the constant high heat will in general shorten engine life. I think that is a given, you added something that boost such great power over the original NA engine and yet can have better FC, something has to go. The forced highly compressed air with massive heat generated in our sometime super hot weather WILL affect engine life and reliability. Stringent requirement of good engine oil with monitored and much shorter engine life and change interval will also add to the cost. More repair will be needed at least over NA engine. Hybrid engine part even lesser repair needed, as mentioned, no alternator, no start, belt driven thingy.... So for me, in terms of engine reliability for long term over Turbo, Hybrid might not be inferior in that matter. It even have an advantage over turbo-based engine at that. It's Atkinson cycle engine while added some complexity and heat over NA engine, will likely last longer than turbo-based engine as it does less work (split work with electrical motors). It is also way more efficient with fixed interval on oil change (no power, we know that but that is where the electric motor comes in to buck up this weakness). The motor parts will likely last very long without failure...although concern is always there.....it will not fail in long time...but once it does, the repair or replacement will be exorbitant. It is a real fear but likely will be in very far future (of course, you are one of those super unlucky ones, habis or ones that runs very high mileage in short terms) but in reality, how many ppl really keep Hybrid that far to the future. Not many do (and I'm likely one of those that do keep for long term but I keep the mindset I'll cross the bridge when we get there approach). As for battery life, after 8 years to 10 years, with reduced capacity, can change one at abt 10K cost now but in 10 years, likely dropped a lot. Again that is at least 10 years, might have sold the car before that or just budget to have 10k change and a RENEWED fc efficiency as battery load and power will be back to original. This post has been edited by ben3003: May 29 2024, 08:59 AM |
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