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Enquiries/Recommendations XPS 15 9560 vs Macbook Pro 15 (2017), Need to pick one

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TStoccata
post Jul 11 2017, 03:54 AM, updated 7y ago

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Wanted to get some opinions between the Dell XPS 15 9560 and Macbook Pro 15, both the recent 2017 models. I'm looking for a powerful and sleek designed (yes I'm superficial that way) laptop, aside from normal computing use, mainly for:
- Image editing, some graphic design (but not video)
- Moderate gaming, not super heavy, but not light
- Watching HD video
- Something to last me the next 4-5 years, so don't mind spending a bit

[Edit: for context, I've been using the Macbook Pro 15 from 2012, and Macbook Air from about that time too)

My main considerations so far:

Macbook Pro 2017
Considering: i7 2.8GHz variant (16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Radeon Pro 555 2GB etc)

Pros:
OS: I've been a Mac user for years, Windows 10 is alright but I really do like MacOS
Design: I still do like the Macbook design, compared to the Dell, which just looks slightly clunkier (although still nice). And I really like the Mac trackpads
Build Quality: I've generally never had problems with Macbooks, they're well designed and work well from the start, and I know they last

Cons:
Price for performance: Definitely more expensive, almost RM2k more for less specs. Then again, it is a different OS? I wouldn't mind paying a bit more as it is to last me a few years, if the performance difference isn't too significant?
OS: Mac OS is never good for gaming. Im Not really tied to any apps that need Mac OS.
Design: Ambivalent about the Touchbar, not dying to have it, but I may end up liking it if it helps

Dell XPS 15 9560
Considering: i7 3.8GHz, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA GTX 1050 4GB, etc

Pros:
Price/Performance: You definitely get more for money
OS: More gaming options here.

Cons:
OS: Windows 10 is ok, but not my favorite, and the trackpad is not as good. I know these sound superficial, but these are the things I would use everyday so I'm worried they may get annoying fast
Design: It looks good, but (IMO) not as good as the Macbook, definitely looks clunkier
Build Quality: I have had bad experiences with Dell laptops before, having problems with new units out of the box. Sure, they fix it under warranty, but it is still a hassle. Also, do they last for 4-5 years?


Would love some opinions, especially from anyone who may have used one or the other, or even better, have decided between them, or switched from one to the other.

I suppose it comes down to:
1) Actually performance difference during use (I know the specs are different, but then they're different OS
2) Graphics card differences: is the Dell's NVidia GTX 1050 much better than the Mac's Radeon Pro 555?
3) Longevity: Which would last better over 4-5 yeats?

Thanks!

This post has been edited by toccata: Jul 11 2017, 03:58 AM
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post Jul 11 2017, 10:59 AM

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1. OS wise mac win lo.. but mac aftersales oso sux la... u in wrong region u gg de.. only kl city 1 good

2. gtx 1050 kick kao radeon.. but u must remember mac hv better display... becoz xps 15 4k means more icon in the screen.. not color saturation.. n so far non come close to mac retina... however the new gen retina fast spoil oso... TIM cook dunno do QC

3. both last 4-5yrs.. but DELL i can do extend warranty where mac cannot extend if u dint buy extension on the spot...
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:02 AM

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if u wan for gaming... always go for window base.... u might get smash if u ask mac sales tat u wan mac for gaming..

FYI MBP psu doesnt design for gaming.. cannot tahan the power drainage
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:09 AM

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If you prefer MacOS, then go for MBP. End of story. No gaming gaming.
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jul 11 2017, 11:09 AM)
If you prefer MacOS, then go for MBP. End of story. No gaming gaming.
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yea... wan gaming no mac... wan mac no gaming
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:16 AM

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I was a previous user of a Dell XPS 15 9550 [last gen version]. Since they haven't changed the design and the current gen components have the same TDP I think my experiences will still be valid.

In my case the XPS has trouble gaming for extended periods without throttling if you're in a non air conditioned room. The VRMs will get hot after a while [usually about 90 minutes in my case] and then the CPU will throttle down to 800MHz. To get it to run back at full speed you need to restart it and wait a bit for it to cool down. In games that do not tax both the GPU and CPU as hard, the throttling happened later.

I imagine the same can be applied to the rMBP seeing how thin it is and the cooling looks similar to the XPS.
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Jul 11 2017, 11:16 AM)
I was a previous user of a Dell XPS 15 9550 [last gen version]. Since they haven't changed the design and the current gen components have the same TDP I think my experiences will still be valid.

In my case the XPS has trouble gaming for extended periods without throttling if you're in a non air conditioned room. The VRMs will get hot after a while [usually about 90 minutes in my case] and then the CPU will throttle down to 800MHz. To get it to run back at full speed you need to restart it and wait a bit for it to cool down. In games that do not tax both the GPU and CPU as hard, the throttling happened later.

I imagine the same can be applied to the rMBP seeing how thin it is and the cooling looks similar to the XPS.
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mac had worse cooling than XPS... XPS dual fans.. MBP dual tiny fan...n mbp power brick draw less power compare to XPS... tat y mbp not fit for gaming...

ur 9550 hv hotter gtx 960m compre to gtx 1050... n oso pls repaste ur thermal gel... xps 9550 oso got uneven thermal paste cases

wan extend ur xps warranty?
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jul 11 2017, 11:23 AM)
mac had worse cooling than XPS... XPS dual fans.. MBP dual tiny fan...n mbp power brick draw less power compare to XPS... tat y mbp not fit for gaming...

ur 9550 hv hotter gtx 960m compre to gtx 1050... n oso pls repaste ur thermal gel... xps 9550 oso got uneven thermal paste cases

wan extend ur xps warranty?
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I've repasted several times lol, in the end sold it and got an AW13 R3 instead. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 11 2017, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Jul 11 2017, 11:36 AM)
I've repasted several times lol, in the end sold it and got an AW13 R3 instead.  biggrin.gif
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get liao ah

aw13 R3 DFO got alot now
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post Jul 12 2017, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jul 11 2017, 11:13 AM)
yea... wan gaming no mac... wan mac no gaming
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lol i guess that sums it up

QUOTE(Racerx @ Jul 11 2017, 11:16 AM)
I was a previous user of a Dell XPS 15 9550 [last gen version]. Since they haven't changed the design and the current gen components have the same TDP I think my experiences will still be valid.

In my case the XPS has trouble gaming for extended periods without throttling if you're in a non air conditioned room. The VRMs will get hot after a while [usually about 90 minutes in my case] and then the CPU will throttle down to 800MHz. To get it to run back at full speed you need to restart it and wait a bit for it to cool down. In games that do not tax both the GPU and CPU as hard, the throttling happened later.

I imagine the same can be applied to the rMBP seeing how thin it is and the cooling looks similar to the XPS.
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Thanks for the feedback, good to hear from direct experience
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post Jul 12 2017, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Jul 11 2017, 11:16 AM)
I was a previous user of a Dell XPS 15 9550 [last gen version]. Since they haven't changed the design and the current gen components have the same TDP I think my experiences will still be valid.

In my case the XPS has trouble gaming for extended periods without throttling if you're in a non air conditioned room. The VRMs will get hot after a while [usually about 90 minutes in my case] and then the CPU will throttle down to 800MHz. To get it to run back at full speed you need to restart it and wait a bit for it to cool down. In games that do not tax both the GPU and CPU as hard, the throttling happened later.

I imagine the same can be applied to the rMBP seeing how thin it is and the cooling looks similar to the XPS.
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How to improve VRM heat issue

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/14875-fix-throttling-xps-15/

Going to get my 9560 soon, hope this help smile.gif

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post Jul 12 2017, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jul 12 2017, 09:00 AM)
How to improve VRM heat issue

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/14875-fix-throttling-xps-15/

Going to get my 9560 soon, hope this help smile.gif
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Let me know how you like your 9560!
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post Jul 12 2017, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(toccata @ Jul 12 2017, 04:57 PM)
Let me know how you like your 9560!
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btw... this model dfo more expensive than alienware

aw15r3 dfo gsync, 1060 only rm6600
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jul 12 2017, 05:36 PM)
btw... this model dfo more expensive than alienware

aw15r3 dfo gsync, 1060 only rm6600
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I also had good deal with AW15R3, however finally select XPS due to photo edit + medium gaming + light weight
XPS had balance in term for this.. XPS is too heavy...

I believe TS had similar usage as mine
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jul 12 2017, 06:06 PM)
I also had good deal with AW15R3, however finally select XPS due to photo edit + medium gaming + light weight
XPS had balance in term for this.. XPS is too heavy...

I believe TS had similar usage as mine
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Be careful lo.. now alot clone set outside.. no service tag 1 dun buy
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jul 12 2017, 07:49 PM)
Be careful lo.. now alot clone set outside..  no service tag 1 dun buy
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no worry, the deal is from my friend who work for dell and offer from dell as well
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jul 12 2017, 08:46 PM)
no worry, the deal is from my friend who work for dell and offer from dell as well
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Oh... the 4 to 8% discount .. staff prices

Btw staff oso can buy dfo n sell u though
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jul 12 2017, 09:00 AM)
How to improve VRM heat issue

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/14875-fix-throttling-xps-15/

Going to get my 9560 soon, hope this help smile.gif
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Are you sure this will not void the warranty of the device?

Edit: I am planning on getting one as well but with 256gb ssd. Where are you getting yours from? ( i really want the fingerprint scanner for the Windows hello feature tongue.gif)

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jul 12 2017, 09:12 PM)
Oh... the 4 to 8% discount .. staff prices

Btw staff oso can buy dfo n sell u though
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for normal deal stuff can get up to 10++%

My deal is devil.gif
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QUOTE(hammadsaeed @ Jul 13 2017, 04:25 AM)
Are you sure this will not void the warranty of the device?

Edit: I am planning on getting one as well but with 256gb ssd. Where are you getting yours from? ( i really want the fingerprint scanner for the Windows hello feature tongue.gif)
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Thermalpaste re-paste wont void la, just take care and dont damage any component...

For thermalpad is only stick on top of PMW for better heat transfer.. as long as dont over compress and damage the component, its totally fine....


I get from my relative which work at Dell, the price is cool2.gif

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