I notice a lot of sucker for brands are posting negative comments on Haval here, lol.
What amuses me most is that these people have zero experience of owning a Haval car and yet they want to go and bash a brand and product they've never tried or owned simply because of all the branding and marketing brainwashing that they've been subjected to by the media and clueless people around them.
The fact is almost all the comments I hear from actual Haval owners are actually very positive.
This reminds me of my experience of buying the Huawei Ideos X5 smartphone some 7 years ago. At that time, Huawei had just appeared on the smartphone market. The salesperson at the smartphone store that I went to laughed at me and ask me why I want to buy a China no brand phone. He said Huawei is a cheap China brand that doesn't know how to make smartphones and insisted I should get a Sony or a Motorola instead. Needless to say, I just walked away and bought my Ideos X5 from another seller.
The Ideos X5 exceeded every expectation I had of it. Not only was it far more affordable than rival models from big name brands, it was tough and reliable. I dropped it a few times (without any protective casing) until one day, the screen cracked yet it still continued to function. It had been exposed to rainwater numerous times on my bicycle rides (yes I didn't put it in any waterproof case) and even this didn't kill it. Eventually, one day I accidentally dropped it on a concrete floor really hard and that managed to kill it for good. By then, I had used it for 3 years. Today, Huawei is one of the top smartphone brands in the world and some even call it branded.
I wonder if that salesperson who laughed at me is still laughing today?
Another experience I have with Chinese products is my no brand FR315 carbon fiber bicycle frame from Flyxii which cost me RM1,500. I remember when I first bought it, the brand suckers in any club ride I joined warned me that a Chinese frame is dangerous to use because they have no quality at all and can break apart when you're riding which could be fatal. They claim there is a lot of information from the net that show these frames failing, etc. As usual, these so-called experts have zero experience in owning one yet they talk like they know a lot.
Here's my experience of owning the FR315 which I still use:
* Bought it in 2013 and 5 years down the road, it is still as good and reliable as brand new.
* It has never broken apart or cracked despite me riding it into numerous potholes, on rough road conditions, various bike races from 2013 to 2017.
* I've won a small race (2015), had numerous podium spots and top 10 and top 20 race rankings with it beating countless other riders on branded RM10,000 frames.
To this day, none of the riders that I PERSONALLY know who own similar Chinese frames have reported any failures with their frames. This is simply because they're slightly heavier than branded frames and are thus more reliable due to that extra carbon fiber. Interestingly, the only carbon fiber failures that I've heard personally from people that I know, seem to happen on only branded stuff like Cannondale and Pinarello:
* I personally know 2 cases of Cannondale Supersix Evo carbon fiber frames in MALAYSIA cracking after the bikes fell to their sides from a standing position (with no rider on). YES, STANDING POSITION!
* One Pinarello Dogma frame broke after a female cyclist rode it into a pothole at moderate speed. She weighs less than 60kg, LOL.
* Another Bianche Oltre frame cracking after falling to its side from a standing position.
All these frames cost anywhere between RM6,000 to RM15,000. There are more examples but I don't want to make this post too long.
Interestingly, when I asked these so-called "experts" why those frames failed, some of them actually said, "Oh, it's because these days they manufacture the frames in China, not in Italy or USA anymore." LOL.
To put it bluntly, there is a sucker for brands born every minute. LOL. Good for business if you own a company or brand that thrives on pushing out marketing lies and bullshit in order to sell products with 90% profit margins.
Need to agree with you on this.
Most of the negative reviews are mostly from whom to not even own the particular products. Your experiences has told more than enough. This forum has to be a better discussion platform, not to just bash straight away. I have this car on my wish list, but somehow this type of forum reviews gave me a bad impression. After I seek for more information on other forum, I'd say that this car is still a good value for its money. I also read that some of the parts available on Aliexpress with a cheap price!
I will still consider to buy this, and now the H1 is on fire for its price (51k atm).