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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V45, BPL - Chelsea 2 - 3 Burnley

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post Jul 8 2017, 01:24 PM

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Antonio Conte has made his peace with Chelsea after their failure to sign Romelu Lukaku, with the head coach blaming the player and his agent, Mino Raiola, for the Everton striker’s impending transfer to Manchester United, which could be announced as early as today.

The Italian is understood to feel betrayed by Lukaku as the pair have spoken on several occasions this summer and the Italian had formed the impression that he had his heart set on returning to Stamford Bridge. Instead, the 24-year-old now appears destined to join United.

It is understood that Chelsea matched United’s initial £75million up-front offer for Lukaku, but were unwilling to meet the agent fee (£10million) being demanded by Raiola, which they believe has been pivotal in the Belgium striker’s apparent desire to move to Old Trafford.

While Chelsea’s £75 million offer for Lukaku was made prior to United and Everton coming to an agreement this week, it has been enough to placate Conte, who is frustrated at missing out on his primary summer transfer target.

Chelsea fear that Lukaku is being guided towards United by Raiola — who took Paul Pogba, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Henrikh Mkhitaryan to the club 12 months ago — because of the agent’s financial interests rather than the player’s sporting objectives. Chelsea have also suffered as a result of United’s willingness to offer Wayne Rooney — notionally valued at £10 million — to Everton as part of the deal, which when Lukaku’s easily attainable performance and appearance targets are achieved will take the value of the overall package to a world-record £100 million.
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post Jul 8 2017, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 8 2017, 11:30 AM)
And on Lukaku to Utd. Pretty sure Utd is using Rooney as a leverage. Since it is also heavily reported that Rooney is moving to the other way, back to Everton. sweat.gif

The Costa situation really make clubs around us have leverage if we are interested in their strikers. sweat.gif
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Not only that because there are very few top of the line strikers on the this window's market to begin with - Auba, Lukaku, Morata and Belotti.

Auba is a pacey striker who's already 28 and have probably the biggest wage demand (said to be 250,000 a week) with Dortmund also demanding a huge transfer fee.

Belotti is had a good season but still largely unproven as he's only just broken onto the scene this past season. With a 100M release clause on his head and him being a fiercely loyal Torino fan growing up, he has previously stated that he has no desire to leave this summer nor has Torino any will to sell him.

Morata is the likeliest option as an alternative to Lukaku as he's been demanding to leave for more first team football. Even though his goals per 90min statistic at Madrid is respectable, he's never been a high volume goal scorer in any season of his professional career. He was never a first choice at Juve nor at Madrid so track record wise he is still inferior to Lukaku adding to the fact that there's no telling if he will be able to adapt to the intensity of PL.

With Lukaku seemingly off the market now, prices of other strikers are only going to rise because of supply and demand. This only gives power to Madrid to hold firm onto their extremely high valuation of Morata.
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post Jul 8 2017, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 8 2017, 01:36 PM)
Why waste time bid then if not gonna pay raiola cutthroat fee?

Man utd willing to pay and any player under him happily sign for united
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One way to look at it is this might be a Chelsea board's PR move to basically tell Conte "Hey it's not our fault, it's all the greedy cunt Raiola's fault".

Emenalo might get a lot of stick on here but isn't it Marina G the one in charge of negotiations? This is more likely her fault if anything for being overconfident and dragging it for too long.
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post Jul 8 2017, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 8 2017, 05:28 PM)
Ayam a bit butthurt we lose bidding war for drogba 2.0 with man utd...😭😫

Better we dont sell matic to them anymore....
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Actually it's better to sell Matic to them than them buying Dier/Fabinho.
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post Jul 14 2017, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jul 14 2017, 07:56 PM)
Ok for me. I like Oxlade, he hard working and quite versatile. RWB can vs Moses. Can play CM or RW if needed. And much prefer Matic to Arsenal than to MU.
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This is why I don't get why Ox is desperate for leave Arsenal. He's been linked with Liverpool and Chelsea this summer, and at both clubs he will be a rotation option at best, the exact reason why he wants out.

His versatility and poor injury record means he will almost never be considered or be relied upon as a first choice starter at most top clubs.
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post Jul 15 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Jul 14 2017, 07:23 PM)
Chalobah’s cut-rate transfer from Chelsea to Watford does include a buy-back clause — report
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As I understand it, there is no buy back clause in Chalobah deal to Watford from Chelsea.

Reported by someone very reliable for Watford related news. Sources close to Chelsea however claim that there is. So who knows. Maybe we will find out in a few years time.
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post Jul 16 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Jul 16 2017, 03:04 PM)
from the video the choice is pretty clear. MORATA definitely, good body build, good finishing and can score goal out of nothing. BELLOTTI is like a poacher, if no service from creative player gg and we are a team depend on individual brilliant most of the time, he might be small but body seem tough. AUBA, just speed, body strength weak and might be too thin to survive BPL.
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That is only half true. It's true that he is not the type that often creates something out of nothing, but one of his biggest strength is his ability to be involved in the buildup play. He is often credited for his work rate in the front line. While it's not realistic to expect him to dribble the ball past 2-3 players to score a goal, it's normal for him to dispossess a defender with his body strength and work rate which could turn into a goal scoring opportunity that should also count as creating something out of nothing.
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post Jul 21 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 21 2017, 01:39 PM)
Rmb reading somewhere Spurs are holding back first, dont wanna repeat last season mistake. Last season they bought early, like Sissoko. And look what a flop he is. laugh.gif
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I think you are misremembering your history. Sissoko was a last minute desperate deadline day transfer.
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post Jul 22 2017, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 22 2017, 12:21 AM)
Wtf....

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich intervenes to sign off £50m deal for Nemanja Matic to join Manchester United
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jul 22 2017, 12:49 AM)
50m is still quite good deal lol
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That amount seems too good to be true. Why would they stump up 50m for Matic when they wouldn't do less for Perisic?
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post Jul 22 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 22 2017, 11:56 AM)
Why is there still rumors about conte want llronte?

what about michy? I think he did enough to deserve a starting spot.

I think if we can get ox, sandro = business complete.
I dont know why are we going for another striker.

If can get sanchez, that will be amazing, but 1 of our wingers have to leave la. Where got space for willian pedro hazard sanchez.
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What history tells us is Michy will be underutilized then sold to another club where he would do well. This is followed by a big money move either back to Chelsea or a rival club.
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post Jul 22 2017, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jul 22 2017, 06:55 PM)
PSG going Neymar AND Sanchez? hmm.gif
or they just going for 1, the other just for leverage.
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I think both if both are attainable. They are going all in this season after Verratti's cry for a move to Barca to win CL.
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post Jul 23 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jul 23 2017, 12:15 PM)
neymar want to go to psg because he think he can win fifa best player there.  doh.gif

why cant he wait a bit. once messi retired, he will get his chance to shine in barca. and possibly winning the best player accolade.

and yeah, once ronaldo retired too.

on our transfer target,
the brazilian kid will probably go on loan if we sign him.
ox look good enough for wing back position. his pace will be very useful.
not sure about alex sandro but alonso not very convincing defensively last night.
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Messi won his first Ballon d'Or when he was just 22. Neymar is already 25. Messi is 30 this year and by the looks of it, could easily play at the top level until he is 33-34. Is Neymar willing to wait till 29-30 when he is already past his prime?

There seems to be a common misconception that Neymar is still a youngster still developing under the wings of Messi. No, his time is now if he ever wants to make his mark like Messi did. You could even argue that he is running out of time as Neymar is more reliant on his pace than Messi was. He probably only has a few years left at the peak of his game. Realistically, I don't see him winning Ballon d'Or even if he moves to PSG, but I certainly won't fault him for showing ambition.

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post Jul 25 2017, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 25 2017, 03:58 PM)
Everton kena blackmail a fukin glyfi siggurddson for freaking 50mil pound!! Take that everton!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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To be fair, Sigurdsson might not be worth that amount for other clubs but he is definitely worth that for Swansea, more than 50M even. The money Swansea will lose from getting relegated will be far more than 50M and Sigurdsson is a player who is capable of saving them from that fate single-handedly.
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post Jul 25 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 25 2017, 06:13 PM)
wow sergi roberto. spanish inquisition incoming. haha

that means, ox is already out of the picture since he is more or less like ox.

I agree that we should stick with kalas & christensen instead of van dik.
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I don't think Sergi Roberto even wants to move. The only reason he would leave Barca is to play regular football in his preferred midfield position. He has no reason to leave now when Barca has finally signed a RB to move him into midfield especially when Conte likely intends on playing him as a RWB which was the only reason linking him away with a move from Barca.

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