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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V45, BPL - Chelsea 2 - 3 Burnley

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post Jul 22 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 22 2017, 12:56 PM)
Why is there still rumors about conte want llronte?

what about michy? I think he did enough to deserve a starting spot.

I think if we can get ox, sandro = business complete.
I dont know why are we going for another striker.

If can get sanchez, that will be amazing, but 1 of our wingers have to leave la. Where got space for willian pedro hazard sanchez.
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Kecian michy dianaktirikan conte.....😭
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post Jul 22 2017, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jul 22 2017, 01:46 PM)
Remy will be ruled out. Not in conte plan. So left bats and morata. We need another st if its true. Furthermore, conte did said he gonna use different formation even in mid game. No doubt conte gonna use 352 and 343. I think next season will be morata, bats and 3rd striker. If llorente, he gonna be 3rd choice nit bats (hope so)
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Sounds like if we play 352....

Ajat gonna be the 2nd striker 🤔😏


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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 22 2017, 02:27 PM)
I'm ok with Ox. but please. Max at 35M. The very very max.

Homegrown, young, versatile. Wait, isn't these the exact reason why he will be overpriced? laugh.gif

But jokes aside. I think Ox will do good at RWB. Provide cover or even competition to Moses on RWB. Can play CDM when needed. But somehow I feel Ox is looking for an easy way out. Can't force himself into Arsenal first team, so go to a big club, play second choice to a main choice player (Moses), get good paycheck.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

Btw Antonio from West Ham high release clause? I think we can sneak in with a cheeky offer. Can operate in more position. And also push Moses to perform better. laugh.gif
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Ox got speed, tenacity, a bit of flair...

Memang sesuai as RWB-CDM pun...

Maybe he just doesnt fit wenger style....
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Jul 23 2017, 01:34 AM)
lol, why looks like temple incense holder...
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Chelsea squad have a new ashtray now biggrin.gif smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2017, 05:45 PM

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Seeingox perform against us on friendlies...

Macam not worth it 😐😑
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Jul 24 2017, 11:48 AM)
3-4-3 or 3-5-2?

Last season saw the birth of a new fashion in English tactics, the 3-4-3. A popular formation in the 1990s, the 3-4-3 has experienced something of a rebirth, a modernisation, when Antonio Conte deployed it in the second half of their 3-0 defeat to Arsenal back in September.

We didn’t realise the importance of what we were witnessing at the time, but that tactical change allowed Chelsea to embark on a 13-game winning streak that heralded the Premier League title. In fact, the formation proved so successful that other teams in the division began utilising the same shape.

However, it was a marriage of convenience, a formation used out of necessity. Conte’s favoured formation is a 3-5-2, one that he used at Juventus and with the Italian national team.

With the signings of Antonio Rudiger and Tiemoue Bakayoko, plus the expected arrival of Alvaro Morata, for a combined £144 million, we can see the Blues’ new look beginning to take shape.

The difference between a 3-4-3 and a 3-5-2

In truth, the 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 aren’t too dissimilar in terms of roles, but there are subtle tactical differences in the formation that are key to making them both work.

For instance, in the 3-4-3 the inside forwards and the wing backs were key to making the side tick, linking defence to attack and providing transitions from front to back, but in the 3-5-2 there is an extra central midfielder through which all play goes.

Said midfielder can drop deep in search of the ball, spray it wide or go over the top directly. He will be the side’s chief orchestrator and it relieves some of the pressure on the inside forwards and the wingbacks to link play together, allowing them to focus on finding the goal and attacking the flanks respectively. 

The 3-5-2, moreover, puts an extra body up front to lead the line in a free role, without compromising any midfield shape because of the presence of the fifth midfielder.

The importance of Cesc Fabregas

One noted feature of the 3-4-3 last season was the lack of midfield creativity in the N’Golo Kante-Nemanja Matic partnership, with the Serb often having to take on the role of deep-lying playmaker to the detriment of defensive solidity. Introducing Cesc Fabregas, furthermore, compromised that solid platform on which Chelsea could attack in numbers.

The 3-5-2 negates this problem, however. Dropping an inside forward into midfield allows for both Kante and Bakayoko, Matic’s replacement, to occupy their defensive roles without worrying too much about shifting the ball forwards. They’re there simply to win back possession.

Once their job is complete, this is where Fabregas becomes important. One of Bakayoko or Kante can simply lay the ball off and let the Spaniard work his magic.

Despite starting on the bench for the most part of 2016/17, Fabregas created 61 chances, the second most of all Chelsea players behind Eden Hazard, and assisted 11 goals. Conte didn’t play him too often last season simply because his formational choice didn’t allow for his inclusion, not because he didn’t value or rate the player.

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This is why the 3-5-2 should be Conte’s formation of choice. A five-man midfield pertains to Fabregas’ inclusion without compromising any defensive solidity.

Two defensive midfielders still roam the pitch and drop deep to protect the back three, with the Spaniard given a free role to influence the game. Like Andrea Pirlo for Juventus, it gives Fabregas license to roam without having to worry about any defensive responsibilities.

Easy. Chelsea have increased their midfield creativity, one of their major problems last season, without relinquishing defensive solidity, the key reason they won last year’s Premier League title.

Unlocking Eden Hazard

Conte was hailed as a tactical genius, which he is, for the way in which his 3-4-3 system brought the best out of Hazard and the Belgian subsequently thrived in his new role, finishing the campaign with 10 goals, five assists and 89 chances created.

However, there’s more to come. Hazard was playing within a structured system and he was consequently required to play a more structured game. There was still a slight defensive role to fulfil and drifting too far from his position on the left flank was detrimental to the overall shape of the team.

The 3-5-2, though, changes the game. Instead of a rigid role on the left wing, Hazard will play as a second striker behind Alvaro Morata. The Belgian is best in central areas and in this system, he’s allowed to influence the game as close to the striker as possible, pertaining to intricate team build up play.

Perhaps the best example of this last season was Diego Costa's second goal versus Southampton in the 4-2 victory in April, shown in the above video.

By this point Pedro had already been substituted for Fabregas and Conte had moved to a 3-5-2 to close out the game. It meant Hazard was playing centrally, resulting in a fluid and intricate team goal.

It allows Hazard a free role. The only thing he’d have to worry about, therefore, is making an impact in the final third and drifting from his position isn’t at all harmful to team shape because of the five-man midfield.

With no set position, coupled with his dynamic movement, Hazard will be a nightmare for defenders. He can float from inside forward to out-and-out winger, from second striker to number ten, the possibilities are endless.

How Chelsea could line up in 2017/18

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possible.... since chelsea not even interested to bid hamis rodriguez on a cheap deal to bayern..

pedro have proven hes willing to play wingback though hes defensive play is really heartwrenching...

willian seem have transition from hard runner ivanovic era to shooting specialist last term....
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Jul 24 2017, 06:45 PM)
Thank goodness. I wouldn't want a 30 years old winger at such inflated price...........  whistling.gif

Mind you we have Jeremie Boga and Charly Musonda.....  thumbsup.gif
He tried that at Ajax. Copycat in the making.  sweat.gif
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BOGA AND MUSONDA tunggu some club bid good money sure pak conte sell punya biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

sell our youngster to fund other club players rclxms.gif bye.gif
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Everton kena blackmail a fukin glyfi siggurddson for freaking 50mil pound!! Take that everton!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 25 2017, 05:38 PM)
i think he is gg
conte emphasizes discipline
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What happen to him? Cant even break watford 1st eleven ohmy.gif
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So sad kena rekt sad.gif
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QUOTE(g104 @ Jul 25 2017, 09:54 PM)
Fab looks like a lazy player & keep losing out the ball easily.
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Conte need to shift to 352 to accomodate him as regular starter 😒
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Topkek can moses run non stop and last the season??....

Looks like no credible backup for man like him sad.gif
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jul 25 2017, 10:33 PM)
Surprisingly Moses do better on the left. Lol.

Good outing overall. First 30mins is beyond shit. Desperately need hazard and Pedro flair going forward. Alonso need to really improve his defensive game.
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Left side is our weak side....

Alonso tall2 but tak tough langsung...

Asik kena lanyak jeh sad.gif
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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Jul 25 2017, 10:50 PM)
michy too tamak la somany ppl infront pun mao shoot sendiri
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If he keeps it up hes gonna be another sturridge case for us....

Perform....keep scoring...but kena force out of team eventually...coz not good for squad harmony/teamwork...
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jul 26 2017, 12:55 PM)
U do realize falcao scored 40+ goals last season
Helped monaco to UCL semi & champ of france?
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Fuuu falcao in epl cant even start games and have horrendous first touch and ball control...


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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 27 2017, 03:07 AM)
kalas loan to fulham again.
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Lol if i was kalas, id stall my contract and go to any other club that want me as 1st eleven...

His loyalty doesnt pay sad.gif
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Jul 27 2017, 06:35 PM)
would like to see Bartra (Dortmund) don a blue kit, like Alonso 2.0.
Our Spanish contingent would be so huge  laugh.gif
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Batra play left or right wing back?
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 27 2017, 10:17 PM)
Candreva crossing is 10x better than Moses
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That guy willing to be wingback and rotate with moses ke?
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 28 2017, 12:35 AM)
Try to ask urself, 2 season without any silverware, 1st season in CL, 2nd season no CL football. BUT, u get Chalobah, Ake, Christensen, Musonda, Boga, RLC, Solanke getting in starting line up day in and day out.

From our pov, maybe we'll feel it's good. Youth playing, can emulate JT. But from business standpoint. No CL, less income, finish lower place, less income.

It's very hard to strike a balance la. Either ur youth is very good like Everton, S'ton and u are a midtable team. Or u are a Chelsea. laugh.gif Youth gud, too gud for their level, but we need the money and silverware. So need to sell. Unless the player is very very patient, wait for an injury to first team and play his skin off.
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What to do epl dont allow top english club to have a b team....

Even our affiliation wih vitesse oso per ah kena scrutinize by governing body and bring to court... but failed conviction lar
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 28 2017, 01:02 PM)
Sadly the demand of the fans and club is too high. Owner's view is we need to be at the top competing.

try to look on brightside, we get good sale from those academy graduate. Ake, Chalobah. But really sad to see them leave.
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Conte logic:

Justify Bakayoko is a much better upgrade from Chalobah as he has play over 100 competitive games with AS Monaco with Champions League experience.

At the same time angry why Chelsea youngsters nowadays have no patience to wait for their time....

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