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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V45, BPL - Chelsea 2 - 3 Burnley

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post Jul 21 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jul 21 2017, 09:31 AM)
ahh yes what happen to spurs? they didnt sign any player yet right? i cant recall any single news hmm.gif
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As Tottenham's squad headed off to Sydney to take part in the International Champions Cup (ICC), Nabil Bentaleb, Federico Fazio, Alex Pritchard and Clinton Njie were all left behind.

Mauricio Pochettino soon announced that while Njie had picked up an injury, "the situation of the other three players... is very clear. They are not in my plans and they know". In the end, Njie was discarded as well.

Wednesday's squad announcement for the upcoming tour of the USA therefore held some interest, potentially identifying the next player or two who would be ushered through the exit door.

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post Jul 21 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(gry @ Jul 21 2017, 04:01 PM)
Watching MU vs city this morning. I think lukaku suit well with Jose system. A target man. Waiting for supply by wide players , long ball from middle and he scored.

I dont see lukaku will fit with conte system. Even with costa, he wasted counter attack create from our speedy players like pedro hazard. Morata like to involve, not just waiting for the ball.

I think both players morata lukaku will succeed with both team.
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That's why I'm glad we didn't go for Lukaku. He's always waiting instead of helping to supply. vmad.gif

What if Morata fails his medical? unsure.gif
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post Jul 22 2017, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 22 2017, 02:47 AM)
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Morata: Hi! I'm Morata from Real Madrid. It's a pleasure to see you in person. smile.gif

Eden Hazard: So what it's like to be in Real Madrid team? sweat.gif


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post Jul 24 2017, 09:27 AM

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There is a suggestion that Conte might be using a 3-5-2 system instead of 3-4-3. If this system works, strikers and midfielders will attack like there's no tomorrow!

Imagine in the midfield consists of Bakayoko, Fabregas and Kante with wingers Pedro and Moses? hmm.gif

Forwards could be Morata, Michi, Willian and Hazard. hmm.gif

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post Jul 24 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 24 2017, 10:35 AM)
if 3-5-2 our wingers will have no space in the team?

3 def

2 wbs - alonso, (sandro) moses (ox)

3 mid - kante, fab, bakoyoko

2 stikers - hazard, morata(michy)

where to put willian, pedro?

and if 3-5-2 to change into 3-4-3 mid game, we need to sub 1 mid to intro willian@pedro? i think if michy can be converted into a wide striker like henry that would be awesome
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3-4-3 or 3-5-2?

Last season saw the birth of a new fashion in English tactics, the 3-4-3. A popular formation in the 1990s, the 3-4-3 has experienced something of a rebirth, a modernisation, when Antonio Conte deployed it in the second half of their 3-0 defeat to Arsenal back in September.

We didn’t realise the importance of what we were witnessing at the time, but that tactical change allowed Chelsea to embark on a 13-game winning streak that heralded the Premier League title. In fact, the formation proved so successful that other teams in the division began utilising the same shape.

However, it was a marriage of convenience, a formation used out of necessity. Conte’s favoured formation is a 3-5-2, one that he used at Juventus and with the Italian national team.

With the signings of Antonio Rudiger and Tiemoue Bakayoko, plus the expected arrival of Alvaro Morata, for a combined £144 million, we can see the Blues’ new look beginning to take shape.

The difference between a 3-4-3 and a 3-5-2

In truth, the 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 aren’t too dissimilar in terms of roles, but there are subtle tactical differences in the formation that are key to making them both work.

For instance, in the 3-4-3 the inside forwards and the wing backs were key to making the side tick, linking defence to attack and providing transitions from front to back, but in the 3-5-2 there is an extra central midfielder through which all play goes.

Said midfielder can drop deep in search of the ball, spray it wide or go over the top directly. He will be the side’s chief orchestrator and it relieves some of the pressure on the inside forwards and the wingbacks to link play together, allowing them to focus on finding the goal and attacking the flanks respectively.

The 3-5-2, moreover, puts an extra body up front to lead the line in a free role, without compromising any midfield shape because of the presence of the fifth midfielder.

The importance of Cesc Fabregas

One noted feature of the 3-4-3 last season was the lack of midfield creativity in the N’Golo Kante-Nemanja Matic partnership, with the Serb often having to take on the role of deep-lying playmaker to the detriment of defensive solidity. Introducing Cesc Fabregas, furthermore, compromised that solid platform on which Chelsea could attack in numbers.

The 3-5-2 negates this problem, however. Dropping an inside forward into midfield allows for both Kante and Bakayoko, Matic’s replacement, to occupy their defensive roles without worrying too much about shifting the ball forwards. They’re there simply to win back possession.

Once their job is complete, this is where Fabregas becomes important. One of Bakayoko or Kante can simply lay the ball off and let the Spaniard work his magic.

Despite starting on the bench for the most part of 2016/17, Fabregas created 61 chances, the second most of all Chelsea players behind Eden Hazard, and assisted 11 goals. Conte didn’t play him too often last season simply because his formational choice didn’t allow for his inclusion, not because he didn’t value or rate the player.

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This is why the 3-5-2 should be Conte’s formation of choice. A five-man midfield pertains to Fabregas’ inclusion without compromising any defensive solidity.

Two defensive midfielders still roam the pitch and drop deep to protect the back three, with the Spaniard given a free role to influence the game. Like Andrea Pirlo for Juventus, it gives Fabregas license to roam without having to worry about any defensive responsibilities.

Easy. Chelsea have increased their midfield creativity, one of their major problems last season, without relinquishing defensive solidity, the key reason they won last year’s Premier League title.

Unlocking Eden Hazard

Conte was hailed as a tactical genius, which he is, for the way in which his 3-4-3 system brought the best out of Hazard and the Belgian subsequently thrived in his new role, finishing the campaign with 10 goals, five assists and 89 chances created.

However, there’s more to come. Hazard was playing within a structured system and he was consequently required to play a more structured game. There was still a slight defensive role to fulfil and drifting too far from his position on the left flank was detrimental to the overall shape of the team.

The 3-5-2, though, changes the game. Instead of a rigid role on the left wing, Hazard will play as a second striker behind Alvaro Morata. The Belgian is best in central areas and in this system, he’s allowed to influence the game as close to the striker as possible, pertaining to intricate team build up play.

Perhaps the best example of this last season was Diego Costa's second goal versus Southampton in the 4-2 victory in April, shown in the above video.

By this point Pedro had already been substituted for Fabregas and Conte had moved to a 3-5-2 to close out the game. It meant Hazard was playing centrally, resulting in a fluid and intricate team goal.

It allows Hazard a free role. The only thing he’d have to worry about, therefore, is making an impact in the final third and drifting from his position isn’t at all harmful to team shape because of the five-man midfield.

With no set position, coupled with his dynamic movement, Hazard will be a nightmare for defenders. He can float from inside forward to out-and-out winger, from second striker to number ten, the possibilities are endless.

How Chelsea could line up in 2017/18

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post Jul 24 2017, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 24 2017, 11:20 AM)
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"I'm proud to wear this shirt. I've bought into an important project here and I'm happy to be here. This shirt has an important history which I honour every time I wear it. The links with Chelsea are nice, but there's been absolutely nothing to date. The club will take care of any bids that may come in." - Antonio Candreva

Thank goodness. I wouldn't want a 30 years old winger at such inflated price........... whistling.gif

Mind you we have Jeremie Boga and Charly Musonda..... thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(dynames07 @ Jul 24 2017, 11:43 AM)
i am a bit more concern with the way we will play next season.. last season, our 3-4-3 took everybody by surprise. and we swept away with a 13 games winning streak. after that, more and more teams adopt this play style and we even got beaten on our own game by spurs and arsenal.

like previous Chelsea ex-managers, the season after being champion is much harder. expectation is higher with more games to play. has conte got Plan B?
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"I am very fond of 4-3-3 which I have played in all my life, but on the other side you have to look at your squad and I think that right now 3-4-3 is the best system.

"It takes time to implement this system while everyone knows how to play 4-3-3, so we have to train hard and every player has to know his role.

"We can always switch to 4-3-3 but over the coming weeks we have to train really well." - Frank de Boer
(Crystal Palace boss)


He tried that at Ajax. Copycat in the making. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jul 24 2017, 05:56 PM)
become our this season Zorro?
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It's ok. Many of our Chelsea players been Zorro before..... rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 24 2017, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jul 24 2017, 08:11 PM)
Will morata wear number 9 or 21?  laugh.gif


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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 24 2017, 08:40 PM)
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Meanwhile Juventus on the brink of signing Federico Bernardeschi (winger) 23 years old from Fiorentina.


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post Jul 25 2017, 10:44 PM

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I have a bad feeling about it especially when I look at the betting odds earlier before the match. It's quite surprising Bayern Munich giving 1/4 ball to Chelsea. I don't bet anyway. hmm.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jul 25 2017, 10:49 PM)
Cause Bayern lost 0-4 to ac Milan
Although it just a friendly match, but they need to entertain their fans too... if lost 2 games in a row, the fans will get angry
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Although it's a friendly game but there's a cup for grab.

QUOTE(gry @ Jul 25 2017, 10:51 PM)
Miss the match!!!

Losing in friendly is good. So we know our weaknesses. Conte hate to lose.
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Our defends look very fragile. We started slow and Ancelotti deployed heavy attackers. Our midfielders are nowhere near great in the first half.


QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jul 26 2017, 12:05 AM)
haha you might be right. conte cannot sleep again until next game, friendly or not.
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Next game vs Inter Milan on the 29th. Community shield Chelsea giving 1/4 to Arsenal. That doesn't look good either. Potential draw or lose . sad.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 08:42 PM

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2nd defeat? Damn.......... bangwall.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 08:46 PM

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Wah Inter scored but offside. Less than a minute kickoff nia.............. bangwall.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 08:53 PM

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Looks like we are doomed! bye.gif
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Is this a glimpse of our Champions league qualifying round future? shakehead.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 09:06 PM

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No penalty for Moses..... vmad.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 09:15 PM

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Puskas goal poential? That was world class. Now Chelsea depends on luck? brows.gif
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Singapore very bad luck stadium for us......... bangwall.gif
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Charly Musonda new Pogba...... thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 29 2017, 09:26 PM)
musonda performance better than willian

michy now look like lukaku. always complain. no wonder conte doesnt play him last season
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Are Belgium forwards all like that mentality? hmm.gif
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post Jul 29 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jul 29 2017, 09:37 PM)
Dunno. That attitude, kinda mad at him

People pass his touch are shit

If got wrong pass complain

Cant really recall in this game any shot on goal by michy. I believe he work hard, run here and there, but it's just he doesn't look like he click well enough with the team. Certainly morata playing wide doesn't really help much in our attacking. As someone posted earlier, we clearly lack of flair and directness in our game. Especially willian. Sometimes he can be a hero but most of the time he held the ball too long in posession.
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That's why I hate Lukaku's mentality when he was at Chelsea..... mad.gif

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