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right choice of dslr URGENT, need an advise from sifu here
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 08:36 PM, updated 9y ago
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Hi guys, i need to buy dslr for my project next week, i dont know which model, lens n speedlight should i buy for indoor use, specifically for indoor group photo, is it possible to get all these equipment with a budget around 4k? Ur advise is much appriciated.. oh i prefer canon, thanks in advanced..
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goldfries
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Jul 6 2017, 08:47 PM
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How big is your group?
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 6 2017, 08:47 PM) 35 bro..any suggestion?
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 09:06 PM
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I dont want to use a compact digital camera eventho it can produce a good quality image coz compact camera not looks professional rite? Tats y i need dslr..
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goldfries
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Jul 6 2017, 09:11 PM
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Now the question is whether you know how to use, for this job I find entry level camera used unit (under RM 1,000) with a cheap lens like 18-55 can get it done.
Lighting depends on your situation, 35 people I'm assuming 3 rows of 12 people is easy peasy but you just need to know how to go about.
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 6 2017, 09:11 PM) Now the question is whether you know how to use, for this job I find entry level camera used unit (under RM 1,000) with a cheap lens like 18-55 can get it done. Lighting depends on your situation, 35 people I'm assuming 3 rows of 12 people is easy peasy but you just need to know how to go about. I prefer a brand new camera bro coz this is a long term project..yup, i hv no idea how to handle dslr but my partner know a basic knowledge about dslr, later can learn frm her,most important thing now is i hv to buy dslr 1st..
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 09:39 PM
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In case of emergency using dslr wif auto setting should b ok rite?
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goldfries
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Jul 6 2017, 10:39 PM
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Yes worse case scenario just go with that P mode (aka PANIC mode) then it's fine. Cheapest body and lens alone RM 1.8k Best flash available now costs RM 2.4k
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 6 2017, 10:39 PM) Yes worse case scenario just go with that P mode (aka PANIC mode) then it's fine. Cheapest body and lens alone RM 1.8k Best flash available now costs RM 2.4k  I just done searching at lazada, seller name miyamondo, canon 760d 18-55mm rm3190, speedlite 430ex111 rm1k++..its within my budget Worth it? Import set means no warranty from manufacturer right?
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goldfries
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Jul 6 2017, 10:54 PM
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Yeah, it means warranty through the shop. They settle for you. Canon Malaysia will not recognize the set.
430EX II not the strongest among the flash units, it gets the job done. It's not as strong as the 600 but if the room isn't that big then it'll do.
Just make sure your ceiling has room to bounce the flash.
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mingyuyu
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Jul 6 2017, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(yanyon @ Jul 6 2017, 10:48 PM) I just done searching at lazada, seller name miyamondo, canon 760d 18-55mm rm3190, speedlite 430ex111 rm1k++..its within my budget Worth it? Import set means no warranty from manufacturer right? 760D + 18-55mm will be more than enough for the usual group photos. a lot of the time it matters more on how you coordinate and arrange everyone's position instead of what camera you are using. btw, are you interested in used canon 580ex II by any means? I have one extra unit that im letting go.
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 6 2017, 11:07 PM) 760D + 18-55mm will be more than enough for the usual group photos. a lot of the time it matters more on how you coordinate and arrange everyone's position instead of what camera you are using. btw, are you interested in used canon 580ex II by any means? I have one extra unit that im letting go. Thanks for ur advise boss... 580ex brand new?
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 6 2017, 10:54 PM) Yeah, it means warranty through the shop. They settle for you. Canon Malaysia will not recognize the set. 430EX II not the strongest among the flash units, it gets the job done. It's not as strong as the 600 but if the room isn't that big then it'll do. Just make sure your ceiling has room to bounce the flash. Eventho its import set but its conform new set rite bro?
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TSyanyon
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Jul 6 2017, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 6 2017, 11:07 PM) 760D + 18-55mm will be more than enough for the usual group photos. a lot of the time it matters more on how you coordinate and arrange everyone's position instead of what camera you are using. btw, are you interested in used canon 580ex II by any means? I have one extra unit that im letting go. Oh sorry2 boss, i prefer brand new speedlite
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goldfries
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Jul 7 2017, 12:21 AM
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 You want brand new hor, actually very limited. In my experience, I'll take the 580EX II any day over 430EX II. I love 430EX II, they are used in most of my work but they're for product shoots. For events and group photos, I will go with the 580EX II. I have both anyway. 600EX RT is too pricey at the moment for anyone.
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TSyanyon
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Jul 7 2017, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 7 2017, 12:21 AM)  You want brand new hor, actually very limited. In my experience, I'll take the 580EX II any day over 430EX II. I love 430EX II, they are used in most of my work but they're for product shoots. For events and group photos, I will go with the 580EX II. I have both anyway. 600EX RT is too pricey at the moment for anyone. ok boss, thanks for ur advise...
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Intergalactic
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Jul 7 2017, 12:13 PM
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Ever considered mirrorless?
Panasonic GX7, GX8 or Olympus em5 mark II, em10 mark II.
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myrose
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Jul 7 2017, 04:08 PM
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you definitely can purchase everything in 4k
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mingyuyu
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Jul 7 2017, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(yanyon @ Jul 7 2017, 08:24 AM) ok boss, thanks for ur advise... just drop me a PM if you changed your mind QUOTE(Intergalactic @ Jul 7 2017, 12:13 PM) Ever considered mirrorless? Panasonic GX7, GX8 or Olympus em5 mark II, em10 mark II. gx7 and em5 II are way more expensive than rm4k if you include lens and flash gun.
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Intergalactic
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Jul 8 2017, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 7 2017, 08:11 PM) just drop me a PM if you changed your mind gx7 and em5 II are way more expensive than rm4k if you include lens and flash gun. Hmm, if that is the case then maybe the G7 or em10 mark II. G7 is like a mini DSLR with 4k video and photo features. I personally have em10 mark I. It is compact, offering ergonomic design and satisfactory IQ.
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