Hello all,

Anyone here bought and/or using the Weststar Maxus G10?

I am asking because I actually just bought one and I am looking for a support group or car club to share stories or experiences.

Pleased to hear feedback from all.

I think on Paul Tan, DSF and even a Youtube (Malaysian) review it was around 12-15 litres per 100KM or so. I can't remember exactly but on the way home earlier I was averaging about 13 litres per 100KM. But that was just me in the car, it might drop considerably once there's a full load of people and luggage.

Since McF7y is not well verse, can get easily misinformed again. A turbo charger application is a science that requires careful calculation and balancing act :

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/...t-GTX-Gen2.aspx

From earlier reply. :

Here, i'm specifically addressing your comment on the "activation" of the turbocharger rpm range as what you say is misleading. Have you ever tried just using your fingers to flick the turbocharger's blade and see how easy it starts spinning? And that is still without the full pressure of oil lubricating it. Normal turbochargers at operation can spool more than 100,000rpm. How much more force would the car exhaust be generating even at idle. And it also seems like you have no understanding of reading the engine power/torque graph.

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I'm using the 8AR-FTS power graph used in the NX and GS as an example. The torque curve is 1650-4000rpm. If really as per what you say that the turbocharger "activate" at 1650rpm, how come the torque curve is stuck flat around there till 4000rpm and after that drop ar??? Going by your thoughts, shouldn't the torque line shoot up sky high? Below 1650rpm, the turbocharger tutup valve and exhaust gas go straight to exhaust and not spooling the turbocharger??

Race and pure performance orientated cars aside, normal daily driven models need the peak torque limited due to :
- fuel efficiency concerns
- limit the turbocharger from operating out of it's efficiency range
- leading to reducing effective air mass (also means reducing your engine breathing efficiency)
- with overly heat soaked air,
- causing predetonation
- which leads to component failures

Normal non modified cars, the main portions that will create exhaust back pressure are :
- exhaust header design
- existence of catalytic converter
- exhaust pipe diameter
- muffler

Even if put a larger than required turbo charger, there won't be back pressure if the above are optimised with the engine. The turbocharger will still definitely spin, just outside of it's effective operating range or what some tuners call the surge line where the "push" is the most effective.

Seems like it is you who even fail to understand the proper concept of turbocharging with/without the help of wikipedia.

jayraptor wkc5657

Whoa guys, whoaaaa. Please chill. I did not realise a discussion about turbo chargers could get this intense.

I'll be the first to admit that my knowledge about turbo chargers is close to none and yes wkc5657 I am not very well-versed at all about this topic.

A lot of what you guys commented on are very technical to an average user like me. It actually really impresses me the technical knowledge you guys have about turbo chargers and how you can discuss such details.

I think originally, it was a discussion about how if the turbo kicked in earlier (because it's a 2.0 engine) there would be more buyers for the car. And then it was suggested that I could get that retro-fitted?

Anyway, yes, the car does feel a little under-powered below 1,500 RPM but after that the turbo kicks in and it accelerates just fine, to me lah at least.

Really, I hope you guys get to discuss this and come to a resolution somehow. I mean, it sounds to me like each of you have your evidences for the opinions you hold about turbos and how they work so maybe can agree to disagree? There's always difference of opinion right?

I sincerely hope that you manage to resolve the situation somehow with him.

Regarding SAIC, it would be nice to see them bring over cars to Malaysia as well. If their price-point is similar to the Maxus G10 where you get pretty good features at moderate prices then it would probably be a game-changer.

Only issue is that re-sale value will still be hard to match the Japanese makes I think.

I didn't realise that SAIC bought over MG too.

These guys are going big man!

Wow, this is actually quite interesting. It's nice to know that we are getting a variety of cars here in Malaysia to suit the budget of various people.

The new Geely/Proton SUV doesn't look to shabby actually. I'd say it is impressive!