it's still(up to MGS1,anyway) kept by the government.
liquid wanted His body and 1 billion(or was it 10 bill?tak ingat) dollars to perfect the next generation special forces "formula"



or something like that..

erm..snake and bros were cloned from BB's dna

it's the normal goons you fight that are not given the exact genes from BB...
which is why they are a little ineffective.

the perfect one was (according to liquid), SOLID snake.
BUT,according to Ocelot,LIQUID is the superior one.

i guess the reason(in the story) Liquid lost to Snake,was because Liquid allowed himself to be tied to his genes.
meaning, at the back of his mind,he always thought that Solid is the better clone.
whereas Solid Snake didnt allow himself to be tied to his genes,thus not giving a damn about whatever the hell his genes tell him.-just fight.

Liquid and Solid never knew of the existence of Solidus,so Liquid doesnt know who is the strongest among them three.

and Ocelot didnt say if Solidus was the most superior of the brothers,either.(ending of MGS)

which probably means Liquid is definitely the superior brother of all 3.

and now that Liquid has Ocelot's body AND mind,i guess he(liquid) now knows that he>solid on the genetic level

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Added on September 21, 2007, 11:42 pmforgot to add:
just saw the MGO trailer...this game is sweeeeet!!!

i can see why Payton says this game is a stand alone product-sure looks more in depth than most other online stealth games..

i guess we will hear all about the SOP system in MGS4,(not be able to use it)and be able to use it ourselves in MGO.

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Sep 21 2007, 11:42 PM

sort of..
just put 2 and 2 together..but ofcourse,just speculation on my part..

in MGS2,when Liquid was just grafted onto Ocelot,Ocelot could still control him.
but i guess Ocelot's age/deteriorating body+Liquid's Big Boss DNA=Liquid>Ocelot in no time
Ocelot had The Boss(who was superior to Naked Snake),and The Sorrow's(who was a psychic who could communicate with the dead) genes,though..
i suppose Liquid being a direct clone of BB made him a little bit stronger than Ocelot who was not a clone,but a direct descendant of the two warriors.

huh?
tak faham
who is the "they" you are referring to?
the government?

big boss isnt shown to be alive-so maybe he does not make a return.
if he is,he could even be on EVA's side!
who knows?

mana tahu,while Solid and Liquid are sparring in their respective Gears, Snake sr arrives with his MG,and says "orite boys,here comes dadddyy!!!!" and pwns them both
and ending scene he and eva do another MGS3 ending



................ok,that's a little gross

what makes you say so?
any indication that he isnt injected with it?
other than the previous trailer where everyone except him falls to the ground

Liquid ocelot is definitely one of them.
and big mama too,i guess

the ESP character is the girl.. Elisa/Ursula

sort of..
he knows the government is just using him as a pawn,but he still does the job,cos he thinks it's partly his mess since he and Liquid are connected genetically

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Sep 22 2007, 12:15 AM

yup,we didnt.
he was long dead by the time we entered that "dream"

yes. i dont think ocelot knows Sorrow is his dad.

the boss
the sorrow

both mate then keluar

ocelot


maybe because the clone's(liquid/snake) dna isnt strong enough.
so need to go back to the source of their genes.

yeah,but kojima=
plus big boss was shown together with everyone else in the sketch for MGS4



albeit naked


dont get what you mean..anyway,

dont worry..you got ample time to get them back...
bukannyer dah kawin pun..


but he claims to be a TEN YEAR VET!! ( )

GENE isnt a psychic,AFAIk.

it isnt.
MGS(or atleast MG) is far from over

camo?

he'll pwn them both,for sure..

solidus died by Raiden's sword.
he fell behind the statue of(who,i dunno) and died there,while trying to reach up to the statue..(for reasons i dunno)

you mean WHO.
it's EVA

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Added on September 22, 2007, 5:57 pmi said it once,i'll say it again.
i hate terrorists





This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Sep 22 2007, 05:57 PM

yup.
i heard about the wtc being cut from the ending,but didnt know it was that bad!

yup


(to the former..not the latter.. )

....and had more diarrhea in mgs2,and met EE behind one of the struts of the big shell while you(as raiden) assisted her by sniping the Cyphers with the help(or lack of, depending on difficulty) of Solid Snake

he was behind the strut.
to listen in on the conversation,you had to use the directional microphone

forgot to mention this..
yesterday i went to the curve,mph,read one of the PSM magazines..
apparently Kojima's team is quite pessimistic.
Kojima claims he wanted to do a game similiar to Assassin's Creed,with people bumbing into each other,big crowd,etc, and the team said it's impossible!

so when the AC trailer first came out,he shoved it to their faces(not literally,la.. ) and told them "there!they can do it!"

which made MGS4 what it is today.

so big thanks go to the MG fans of AC! (yes,a big part of their team are MGS fans )

the interview was between Kojima,Payton,Jade raymond () and another ubisoft employee

i'm trying to find the interview online..will paste it if i can find it

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Added on September 25, 2007, 11:09 pmi found a link to pictures from the interview,but the interview isnt on the site(eventhough they said to find the whole interview online )
MGS-Assassin's Creed Interview

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Sep 25 2007, 11:09 PM

around November,IINM..
hope they do improve on the E3 demo...clipping issues and some annoying bugs(floating bodies,anyone?)

it's the end of MGS..not the end of MG.
MG still lives on,only MGS is finished





....last i heard,anyway

prequel/sequel/same universe different characters/different universe same characters,etc
can be anything..
he changed his mind.
google it up if you want more info
err...where did you get this from?

Ryan Payton E For All Interview

for those who wish to download the interview instead,here are the links:
NON HD
HD

in the interview,they show some gameplay footage
most of which we've seen before.. but with added HUD items



check out the "stress" meter

ask GT.
for some reason the new videos are all flash.

dunno why they do that,since there are ways to download that anyway..

GT has some video gameplay of the demo

yup.
the main menu for the demo was better than the actual game's menu,too

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Added on October 22, 2007, 3:43 pmbtw,anyone know what medium they used for the MGS4 demo?
did they download the game into the ps3 unit's hdd?
or did they use dvd?
or blu ray?

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Oct 22 2007, 03:43 PM