first of all thanks raynman for intoducing to us all these deals, I see you have alread help lots of people invest in cloud mining including me.

These open market price of L3,
Just read the T&C but have few question:
-I assume you buy Hashrate contract with no end date, similar to Genesis?
-Or do you actually buy the old 2nd hand Machine? what if it breaks down in 90days?

T&C states:
"If mining farms may no longer continue operating due to change in legal status, war, earthquake, fire, electricity failure, or other acts of God, Hashnest does not assume responsibility for compensation"

Meaning if they say their factory got burn down after a month coz if shitty electricity wiring, they will not compensate, Im assume they dont disclose where the miner is located?
What happens to your 90MHS? and 29LTC?

Using your example
Hashate MHS 90
Cost LTC 29.7698
Payout Total LTC 0.42032576
Maintenance LTC 0.0121640

My calculations are as follow:
your 90MHS consumes 144 Watt (L3 is 250mhs with 400watt)
us0.07 electric and maintenance fee per kw/h
Units per month 104
USD per day 0.24192 fee ?
USD per month 7.25 fee

But your screen shows
Maintenance LTC 0.0121640 which is about USD 0.52 ???
even if you divide 0.52 by 3 days since you run its still USD0.173?

to each his own.

Yes agree most important is ROI
ROI = (Gross income- FEE) / Total Investment * 100

I already put 90mhs, and 144 watt, and 0.07c electric, and 1% pool fee, in the online calculator, and ROI is about 6 months in theory
Just want to confirm with raynman if thats what he is getting.

As I cant workout raynman phone app if hashnet is showing similar figures on Payment and Fee which effects ROI, I cant figure it out thats why I asked him.
That is a fair question would you not agree?
No one will try to haggle with bitmain on fee price, this is not basak malam.

Online calculator ROI is one thing, and actual ROI is another thing,
Im sure you know this as well

And also in the unlikely circumstance the machine burns down after a month you rugi your 29 LTC?
or are you buying Hashrate like genesis, the T&C is not clear.

I am totally aware of this clause.

It is a risk I am willing to take.

You, on the other hand, is just too risk-adverse to really venture big into anything. Scared this scared that.

Nope.

The one offered by HashNest/Bitmain for cloud mining is the January 2017 model called L3.

What we will be getting at GigaWatt is the enhanced new April 2017 model called L3+ with double the hashrate.

Yes, correct.

But it really doesn't make any difference.

We are buying HASHRATE for the Scrypt mining algorithm, not the model of the miner.

The hashrate output is the SAME per MH/s whether it is using the L3 or the L3+.

It is quite susah to explain to jack2.
He is not smart enough to completely understand what you say. 

Aiyah 

The L3+ has double the hashrate (504 MH/s) over the L3 (250 MH/s).

I was just joking with you. No hard feelings.

Based by your purchase on hashnet, one MH/s is cost at  23.681 LTC / 70MH = 0.3383 LTC.
In gigawatt, the cost for L3+ is 51LTC. If calculate based by cost per MH/s from hashnet, 0.3383 LTC * 504MH = 170.5LTC.

Of course the L3+ in gigawatt has more daily ROI.

You are a mathematical genius! 

now doing some research from cloud mining bro... haha... which coins is best to mine now bro... can cover the mining fees

Not so simple as that.

You forgot to factor in the cost of the tokens required to host one L3+ miner.

Budget around RM1k still affordable for me
Read about Bitcoin Mining Starter pack at Genesis Mining for $30... seem like very cheap but how is the profit haha

Its around 5.40 USD per month ROI for the $30 Genesis Mining Bitcoin .....as i got try on it

most of the cloud mining i guess require +/- 6 months to ROI

but what beyond my expectation is Ethereum cloud mining ...the payout drop rate is too fast and the price of coins also its a joke

so for beginner which platform and which plan is most affordable to start and with best ROI ? I am going to start small, now alot of funds stuck in crypto and stock markets

so the return is payback on the coin you mine or usd?

It's okay... better than put FD on bank haha... I just started to try

Bought another btc mining from genesis

That is the result of not seeking advice first before subscribing for a cloud mining plan, especially for newbies.

how to start mining at Hashnet  ? if i 1st timer and dont have LTC

you could buy them using credit card.

Now planning to upgrade , which one should go to ? Seeking opinion here from all sifu .