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TSdRLurve
post Jun 29 2017, 11:04 AM, updated 5 months ago

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Hi all sifu, need recommendations on what i should do next. I have a facelifted Honda Accord and the car now clocking 10K mileage. My car making ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii noise when braking (Check the attached youtube video). Asked Uncle Google and look like a well known issue without permanent solution. I have returned to Honda Service Center thrice and everytime they just told me brake pad uneven/stone chip/rotor unven. The problem returned after one or two days.

Edit* Video Owner disabled sharing. Here the link "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9bfq1nxJ2k"

Any sifu or Honda experts here can share what can i do to fix it? What option do i have? confused.gif cry.gif

Please dont ask me change the car. Serious talk plz.

This post has been edited by dRLurve: Jun 29 2017, 11:09 AM
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:07 AM

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honda and the brakes.
happens to all honda.

i just changed the disc and brakepad. so far no more sound after clocking 20k
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:08 AM

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Don't really have a Honda but mine is a Myvi, had the same problem. So I changed both brake pads and brake discs instead of just brake pads. Issue gone.
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 29 2017, 11:07 AM)
honda and the brakes.
happens to all honda.

i just changed the disc and brakepad. so far no more sound after clocking 20k
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Change to third party part? How much does it affect the warranty?
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 11:10 AM)
Change to third party part? How much does it affect the warranty?
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sc refused to change it for free since it has no indication of braking power loss or mechanical failure.
screw the warranty.
change in sc > 1k

change outside much cheaper, original honda accessories.



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post Jun 29 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 11:04 AM)
Hi all sifu, need recommendations on what i should do next. I have a facelifted Honda Accord and the car now clocking 10K mileage. My car making ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii noise when braking (Check the attached youtube video). Asked Uncle Google and look like a well known issue without permanent solution. I have returned to Honda Service Center thrice and everytime they just told me brake pad uneven/stone chip/rotor unven. The problem returned after one or two days.

Edit* Video Owner disabled sharing. Here the link "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9bfq1nxJ2k"

Any sifu or Honda experts here can share what can i do to fix it? What option do i have?  confused.gif  cry.gif

Please dont ask me change the car. Serious talk plz.
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What did the SC do? Most car, the brake pad will wear out inner side of the brake disc, leaving the sharp edge at the brake disc rim. Some workshop have tool to cut this unevenness and make the disc surface flat again. I guess the edge is touching the brake clamp mechanical and cause the sound.
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(kons @ Jun 29 2017, 11:15 AM)
sc refused to change it for free since it has no indication of braking power loss or mechanical failure.
screw the warranty.
change in sc > 1k

change outside much cheaper, original honda accessories.
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So sifu suggesting go out buy the original honda parts from Honda spare part shop and change it outside? Actually i talked to one of the honda foreman and he honestly told me it was the material used by honda and nothing much they can do. Every time owner send in and complain then all they can do was skim the brake pad and rotor. They cant gerenti the noise wont return. Hence i doubt if i still use the Honda part can resolve this issue.


QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 29 2017, 11:15 AM)
What did the SC do? Most car, the brake pad will wear out inner side of the brake disc, leaving the sharp edge at the brake disc rim. Some workshop have tool to cut this unevenness and make the disc surface flat again. I guess the edge is touching the brake clamp mechanical and cause the sound.
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First few times they just check the pad and told me maybe got stone chip in. Then later they skim the brake pad. Any recommendation for shop? If got plz pm me. Desperately looking for solutions.
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 11:04 AM)
Hi all sifu, need recommendations on what i should do next. I have a facelifted Honda Accord and the car now clocking 10K mileage. My car making ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii noise when braking (Check the attached youtube video). Asked Uncle Google and look like a well known issue without permanent solution. I have returned to Honda Service Center thrice and everytime they just told me brake pad uneven/stone chip/rotor unven. The problem returned after one or two days.

Edit* Video Owner disabled sharing. Here the link "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9bfq1nxJ2k"

Any sifu or Honda experts here can share what can i do to fix it? What option do i have?  confused.gif  cry.gif

Please dont ask me change the car. Serious talk plz.
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Only producing ngiii ngiii sound? Is there any vibration? Since you said they have skimmed the pads, did they did it to the rotor as well?
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Jun 29 2017, 11:43 AM)
Only producing ngiii ngiii sound? Is there any vibration? Since you said they have skimmed the pads, did they did it to the rotor as well?
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Bro, i only heard ngiii ngiii sound from rear brake. Happened intermittently soft/hard brake but most of the time only happened the first press then it gone. After while maybe 1 or 2 turn and it came back again. No noticed vibration during braking but i not expert.

Every time they just told me that they checked the rotor and brake pad. Not faulty and "maybe stone chip inside". Then the latest i went to sc they told me that they skim pad and should be fine already. It only lasted 2 days and it came back.
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post Jun 29 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 11:37 AM)
So sifu suggesting go out buy the original honda parts from Honda spare part shop and change it outside? Actually i talked to one of the honda foreman and he honestly told me it was the material used by honda and nothing much they can do. Every time owner send in and complain then all they can do was skim the brake pad and rotor. They cant gerenti the noise wont return. Hence i doubt if i still use the Honda part can resolve this issue. 
First few times they just check the pad and told me maybe got stone chip in. Then later they skim the brake pad. Any recommendation for shop? If got plz pm me. Desperately looking for solutions.
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Unevenness can be cause by brake pad, usually cheap one .. but Honda? hmm.gif Try to get a good replacement from spare part shop. I've never own a Honda smile.gif
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post Jun 29 2017, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 11:54 AM)
Bro, i only heard ngiii ngiii sound from rear brake. Happened intermittently soft/hard brake but most of the time only happened the first press then it gone. After while maybe 1 or 2 turn and it came back again. No noticed vibration during braking but i not expert.

Every time they just told me that they checked the rotor and brake pad. Not faulty and "maybe stone chip inside". Then the latest i went to sc they told me that they skim pad and should be fine already. It only lasted 2 days and it came back.
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hmmm. after skimming pads lasted for 2 days only. surely there is uneven surface by my guess. Why not skim both of it and have a try? I think you should get to an experience foreman to check on this. SC is just too lazy for this kind of small things i guess. haha.

My car personally have ngii ngii sound too before i change to new pads. There are cracks and uneven surface on the pads. After changing to new pads, its fine.

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post Jun 29 2017, 12:57 PM

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Try changing the brake pad

And also check the caliper piston (scare jam causing uneven pad wear)


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post Jun 29 2017, 01:02 PM

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Only way to remedy it without changing any parts is by using anti squeal paste or a high temperature grease. Apply it to the pads where it touches the caliper.

Fyi, normal grease spray or white lithium grease not going to work as the brakes operating temperature higher than the grease separation temperature. U need at least copper or aluminum grease, usually rated above 500 C. Even polyurea grease rated at 270 C may not work.
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post Jun 29 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Jun 29 2017, 12:47 PM)
hmmm. after skimming pads lasted for 2 days only. surely there is uneven surface by my guess. Why not skim both of it and have a try? I think you should get to an experience foreman to check on this. SC is just too lazy for this kind of small things i guess. haha.

My car personally have ngii ngii sound too before i change to new pads. There are cracks and uneven surface on the pads. After changing to new pads, its fine.
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Is it void warranty if we skim both pad and rotor outside? Will honda know if we skim these?

QUOTE(feralee @ Jun 29 2017, 12:57 PM)
Try changing the brake pad

And also check the caliper piston (scare jam causing uneven pad wear)
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Any source how to check? or just send to foreman ask them check?

QUOTE(CarroTT @ Jun 29 2017, 01:02 PM)
Only way to remedy it without changing any parts is by using anti squeal paste or a high temperature grease. Apply it to the pads where it touches the caliper.

Fyi, normal grease spray or white lithium grease not going to work as the brakes operating temperature higher than the grease separation temperature. U need at least copper or aluminum grease, usually rated above 500 C. Even polyurea grease rated at 270 C may not work.
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Bro, you sound pro on this. Can you provide more info where and how to do it?


You guys have workshop recommendation which good at resolving this issue? Please PM me.
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QUOTE(CarroTT @ Jun 29 2017, 01:02 PM)
Only way to remedy it without changing any parts is by using anti squeal paste or a high temperature grease. Apply it to the pads where it touches the caliper.

Fyi, normal grease spray or white lithium grease not going to work as the brakes operating temperature higher than the grease separation temperature. U need at least copper or aluminum grease, usually rated above 500 C. Even polyurea grease rated at 270 C may not work.
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You want to stop your car in time but you apply grease! rclxub.gif
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post Jun 29 2017, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 02:46 PM)
Is it void warranty if we skim both pad and rotor outside? Will honda know if we skim these?
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This one have to ask other sifus. But did SC charge for skimming the pads? If no maybe ask them skim both? I think skimming the pads and rotors they also tak tau punya. hmm.gif hmm.gif
But it is better to ask an experience foreman to check if sending to SC is useless.

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post Jun 29 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Jun 29 2017, 03:11 PM)
This one have to ask other sifus. But did SC charge for skimming the pads? If no maybe ask them skim both? I think skimming the pads and rotors they also tak tau punya.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
But it is better to ask an experience foreman to check if sending to SC is useless.
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Thanks.

Anyone know if skim brake pad only or both will void warranty? How much it cause? and recommended shop to do this in KL area?

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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 02:46 PM)
Is it void warranty if we skim both pad and rotor outside? Will honda know if we skim these?
Any source how to check? or just send to foreman ask them check?
Bro, you sound pro on this. Can you provide more info where and how to do it?
You guys have workshop recommendation which good at resolving this issue? Please PM me.
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I think most car workshops mechanics have no technical knowledge of grease. Summore these high temperature grease are substantially more expensive oso.

Can easily diy urself geh, go to ACE hardware look for permatex high temp anti seize spray. Its aluminum base. About rm60-70.
Spray at the clip and piston touching the pad.

U not worried with what Zot said meh?
Later crash n burn dun blame me. Heheheee

If still got sound oso i m not responsible. Hehheee
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post Jun 29 2017, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(CarroTT @ Jun 29 2017, 03:20 PM)
I think most car workshops mechanics have no technical knowledge of grease. Summore these high temperature grease are substantially more expensive oso.

Can easily diy urself geh, go to ACE hardware look for permatex high temp anti seize spray. Its aluminum base. About rm60-70.
Spray at the clip and piston touching the pad.

U not worried with what Zot said meh?
Later crash n burn dun blame me. Heheheee

If still got sound oso i m not responsible. Hehheee
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Come on bro, serious discussion only.
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QUOTE(dRLurve @ Jun 29 2017, 03:40 PM)
Come on bro, serious discussion only.
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I m reli quite serious.... sit in meeting texting on this forum with serious face.... but some pepo think i m joking with your life

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