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ff56k2
post Jul 14 2017, 06:20 PM

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Hi All, I'm a mining noob. I just wanted to check your opinion before I jump onto the mining ship. Was planning to build a 6 gpu rig, either GTX 1070 or 1060, to mine ether or zcash. From what I see, ether is now very hard, but would there be any big risk just mining zcash for consistent money?

I'm afraid if my train of thought is too simple as I see a lot of people selling off their mining rigs. Will mining consistently be profitable? (Although amount of profit goes up and down)

Thank you so much for the advice.
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post Jul 15 2017, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Jul 14 2017, 11:20 PM)
If you are a new, I suggest you stay away from actual mining now its a bad time to get it, if it was 3-4 months ago, then go ahead. now is not a good time to buy eth mining rig, first of all the hardware are extreamly expensive now, POS, difficulty bomb, current weak ETH price but that should be temp. there is no more 3month roi
zcash is not good on 1060, 1070 and 1080ti yes if you can get it at reasonable price, other coins tho not sure, Im actually in the mids researching on mining other coins to hedge my bets.

it took me a very long time to get my 2nd rig done, you need very good PC trouble shooting skills.
Basically took me 2 days to figure out i had multiple issues with pci usb risers and not software, took another day to test each individual PCI/mobo, and full pci/gpu, there are lots of shit quality ones out there now, as high demand low quality.
Once I determine the defective ones, about 1/3 was not usable, 1/3 was ok but had stability issues, lucky I had ordered much more then I needed.
My first batch of riser work 7 out of 7 perfectly. 2nd batch form different supplier was horrible.

If all your hardware is fine and plugged in, it just takes 2-3 hours each PC to setup the software from to finish (flash mobo, install os, updates, miner, driver, etc... start mining.)

another option is do LTC mining using L3+ buy from bitmain.com. I got 2 on its way. its currently more profitable on that, but its noisy as hell. should be much simpler to setup then gpu rig.

Else suggest you better head do cloud mining instead, Im on the LTC plans as well and its also the most profitable one now for cloud mining
https://www.hashnest.com/  (they are actually bitmain.com)

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4345064
there are people there that can help you, lots have join already, just do yourself a favour and dont say i send you there, im the black sheep there.

By the way where are you seeing people selling their mining rigs?
price of 1060 is still way over price, same as 1070.
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Hi Leon, Thanks a lot for the advice. Personally I don't like the idea of using ASICs because I don't want to be tied to a particular coin, that coin die means I die. Also by buying a GPU rig, if I mess up, worst case I can at least sell the GPUs so all is not lost. About people selling their rigs, mostly people in US liquidating their rigs to buy coins as the difficulty increases and ice age coming. Because of POS, Ether is probably only a short term thing. I know currently is the "bad" phase of mining, so was planning to wait for some cheap 1070 cards to pop up as a result.

Can you consistently make enough money mining to replace a full time job? To ang moh it might not look like much, but was estimating 6 x 1070 rig can net you like RM1.5k a month? So if I have 4 of these rigs it could potentially sustain me? I know it's not a get rich quick thing, but 11 or 12 months ROI in business is considered pretty decent already. It feels too good to be true though, so I'm thinking, where is the loophole?

Thanks a lot for your time.
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post Jul 15 2017, 03:22 PM

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I mentioned previously people selling off their mining rigs, if you go to the graphics card garage sales you can see all the rx470s, 480s, 580s etc all selling. Previously these cards were hard to come by and now ta-daa suddenly so many for sale. Some posts also just happen to have 6 for sale. Probably more to do with new DAG affecting these cards though.

Calvin, I'm still a mining noob but I think different manufacturer has different cooler attached which does affect how much you can overclock it. Also think they tune them differently but same chip.
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post Jul 16 2017, 09:41 AM

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@Euthenics, I don't think he can just teach you what he knows like that. From what I've researched, mining cryptocurrency is not like a 12 step guide, you have to research and learn yourself how and what factors affect the market. Have to learn how to read the trends, how to tweak your gpus and set up your rig environments, read on upcoming events and their impact, etc etc. In a way it's like learning how to trade stocks and commodities although mining is less risk less reward.

Motherboard that supports 6 cards? Think there is a Biostar TB250-BTC but not sure if there is still stock.
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post Jul 16 2017, 06:12 PM

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Simplest analogy I can think of is this. There is no such thing as a bad market. House prices high then good to sell, house prices low then good to buy, where you enter and exit is your planning and decision.
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post Nov 15 2017, 09:37 AM

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Just a PSA for those doing gpu mining, be prepared to do your own testing and tweaking. From my experience, the info you get online is not always accurate and there is a lot of misinformation. It is like coming up with the recipe for coca cola, those that have a good recipe aren't so willing to just share it freely.

Imo, AMD cards need a lot more work, you have to modify bios, test out different timing straps, undervolt the cards, use mining specific drivers plus generally more heat. However they do tend to be cheaper so factor that into roi.

Nvidia tends to be simpler to set up, generally more power efficient, but more expensive.

At the end, AMD and Nvidia cards perform differently for different algorithms, and the tweaking is different for each algorithm also. Bottom line is you should r&d 1 card yourself before you throw money into building few rigs.

 

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