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TaintedSoul
post Jul 2 2017, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(krpto88 @ Jul 2 2017, 10:13 PM)
Looking good.

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post Jul 2 2017, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(muttly @ Jul 2 2017, 10:40 PM)
Would you recommend the 8GB version of them for ETH mining?
For ETH i would go with 8GB model of AMD cards.

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post Jul 2 2017, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 2 2017, 08:04 PM)
For those who are interested, here's what I get with my Nvidia cards

Zotac GTX 1080 Mini 160W 390 Sols/s
Galax GTX 1070 Katana 100W 350 Sols/s
Zotac GTX 1060 AMP 6GB 100W 275 Sols/s
ASUS GTX 1050 Ti Expedition 55W 228 Sols/s

*reading based on the Excavator CLI when doing Zcash mining*
**I'm going by the lowest reading seen. My GTX 1070 card is running at 100W confirm sure

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Hi, mind to share which wallet u are using for Zcash
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post Jul 2 2017, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(rainalone @ Jul 2 2017, 10:58 PM)
Hi, mind to share which wallet u are using for Zcash
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I don't. I just mine Zcash to convert to BTC.
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post Jul 3 2017, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 2 2017, 09:25 PM)
How about you do some research first and let us know?
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What research ?

I'm actually a gpu miner , the question above is from my friend . We are using nicehash calculator as A refrence , as we can see nicehash ROI is in 31 Days , Meanwhile 1080 ti 111Days .. (i'm mining using 1080 ti)

I do know about the GPU can minig many coins and others but why do we still keep mining gpu even the hashrate is slower than Antminer?

Refrence from nicehash comparing apple to apple

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By following the refrence that i use from this graph and miner , The antminer is more profitable than 1080 ti

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post Jul 3 2017, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(AlcaGamerZ @ Jul 3 2017, 12:11 AM)
What research ?

I'm actually a gpu miner , the question above is from my friend . We are using nicehash calculator as A refrence , as we can see nicehash ROI is in 31 Days , Meanwhile 1080 ti 111Days .. (i'm mining using 1080 ti)

I do know about the GPU can minig many coins and others but why do we still keep mining gpu even the hashrate is slower than Antminer?

Refrence from nicehash comparing apple to apple

By following the refrence that i use from this graph and miner , The antminer is more profitable than 1080 ti
Sorry ah, you comparing Apple to Apple?

I thought you were asking about Mining BTC directly? This was your post.

QUOTE(AlcaGamerZ @ Jul 2 2017, 09:07 PM)
In the end we are going to change it to btc ? Why dont just mining btc directly using the ASIC machine..
However the Antminer L3+ doesn't mine BTC. tongue.gif

Look at your screenshot, what does it mine? SCRYPT. What is SCRYPT for? LTC (Litecoin). BTC (Bitcoin) uses SHA-256.

And how is it Apple to Apple comparison when both are priced so differently?

Let me give you a better comparison.

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ANTMiner S9 - 14Th/s - Price USD 3,000. Makes 330 USD worth of BTC a month.

6x RX 580 8GB - A little less than USD 3,000. Makes 601.08 USD worth of ETH a month, can be converted to BTC.
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ANTMiner locally not available, you want to buy? Wait, let them ship. And warranty / breakdown? Straight KO, you have to send back.

Compare that to a 6 GPU setup, 1 card breakdown you still mine and all parts available locally.

Mining trend ends? OK sell them all off.

See the difference now?

And also why on earth are you comparing using GTX 1080 Ti? That's like putting the not-so-good GPU miner to the comparison. Price to performance ratio GTX 1080 Ti isn't as good as the lower end cards, which is why you don't see people flocking to buy GTX 1080 Ti.

Also you must note the problem with Nicehash is that it uses % here % there and it's hard to gauge.

See it better now why people don't use ASIC miners?

SUMMARY
- Using the right parts, you get better cost to profit ratio.
- GPU mining are using components readily available (off the shelf)
- Should anything happen to the unit, GPU mining setup's components are easily replaced and can move on / resume operation with ease, not so with expensive ASIC miners.
- ASIC miner is not readily available.
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post Jul 3 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 3 2017, 12:46 AM)
Sorry ah, you comparing Apple to Apple?

I thought you were asking about Mining BTC directly? This was your post.
However the Antminer L3+ doesn't mine BTC. tongue.gif

Look at your screenshot, what does it mine? SCRYPT. What is SCRYPT for? LTC (Litecoin). BTC (Bitcoin) uses SHA-256.

And how is it Apple to Apple comparison when both are priced so differently?

Let me give you a better comparison.

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ANTMiner S9 - 14Th/s - Price USD 3,000. Makes 330 USD worth of BTC a month.

6x RX 580 8GB - A little less than USD 3,000. Makes 601.08 USD worth of ETH a month, can be converted to BTC.
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ANTMiner locally not available, you want to buy? Wait, let them ship. And warranty / breakdown? Straight KO, you have to send back.

Compare that to a 6 GPU setup, 1 card breakdown you still mine and all parts available locally.

Mining trend ends? OK sell them all off.

See the difference now?

And also why on earth are you comparing using GTX 1080 Ti? That's like putting the not-so-good GPU miner to the comparison. Price to performance ratio GTX 1080 Ti isn't as good as the lower end cards, which is why you don't see people flocking to buy GTX 1080 Ti.

Also you must note the problem with Nicehash is that it uses % here % there and it's hard to gauge.

See it better now why people don't use ASIC miners?

SUMMARY
- Using the right parts, you get better cost to profit ratio.
- GPU mining are using components readily available (off the shelf)
- Should anything happen to the unit, GPU mining setup's components are easily replaced and can move on / resume operation with ease, not so with expensive ASIC miners.
- ASIC miner is not readily available.
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Wait, i thought AMD cards already extinct from the market? ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif

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post Jul 3 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jul 3 2017, 09:43 AM)
Wait, i though AMD cards already extinct from the market?  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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well if the trend cont, you will see tons of cheap amd cards later on. mining eth profit drops more 50% now. meaning from 4months ROI to maybe 8~10months ROI now.
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QUOTE(klthor @ Jul 3 2017, 09:55 AM)
well if the trend cont, you will see tons of cheap amd cards later on. mining eth profit drops more 50% now. meaning from 4months ROI to maybe 8~10months ROI now.
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to be honest, i wanna get my hands on to mine some alt-coins, mostly to learn more on the rig building and support such movement. But god damn no supply at all, not even the 2nd or 3rd best mining card ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif
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post Jul 3 2017, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jul 3 2017, 09:58 AM)
to be honest, i wanna get my hands on to mine some alt-coins, mostly to learn more on the rig building and support such movement. But god damn no supply at all, not even the 2nd or 3rd best mining card  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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the hype is dying off. for fun, you might get rx460 or 560. these cards are not good at all but its fun to play with. try to go pre order some 1060/1070 or rx470/570/480/580, wait for 2 months + and if you are lucky, you still can make a few buck... but no guarantee you can ROI smile.gif
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QUOTE(klthor @ Jul 3 2017, 10:06 AM)
the hype is dying off. for fun, you might get rx460 or 560. these cards are not good at all but its fun to play with. try to go pre order some 1060/1070 or rx470/570/480/580, wait for 2 months + and if you are lucky, you still can make a few buck... but no guarantee you can ROI smile.gif
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From my calculation, ROI on the cards itself is possible within a 1 year time frame, however all the hardware needed to power up is kinda hard. 2 Months is too much, might as well buy used card to troll for fun. Hopefully there will be new cards in the market soon. Then can buy 1/2 to run for fun.
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post Jul 3 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jul 3 2017, 09:58 AM)
to be honest, i wanna get my hands on to mine some alt-coins, mostly to learn more on the rig building and support such movement. But god damn no supply at all, not even the 2nd or 3rd best mining card  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
Want coins go buy direct. Even with 6 of the highest end GPU on your rig that costs a car, you still won't get much coin after a month.

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jul 3 2017, 09:43 AM)
Wait, i thought AMD cards already extinct from the market?  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
No ah, coming in at higher price. tongue.gif

But I was using RX 580 as an example because it's the best card, especially for ETH.

My RX 580 8GB should be coming in this week yay!

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post Jul 3 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 3 2017, 10:53 AM)
Want coins go buy direct. Even with 6 of the highest end GPU on your rig that costs a car, you still won't get much coin after a month.
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Want coins and card (gaming sometimes) biggrin.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 3 2017, 10:54 AM)
No ah, coming in at higher price. tongue.gif

But I was using RX 580 as an example because it's the best card, especially for ETH.

My RX 580 8GB should be coming in this week yay!
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Higher price doesn't make sense lor, better I wait. August is coming too... So gonna use 580 for mining too?
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I hate that the cards are oos everywhere too. Now I'm just waiting for the cards to restock in lazada.
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post Jul 3 2017, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jul 3 2017, 10:57 AM)
Want coins and card (gaming sometimes)  biggrin.gif
Higher price doesn't make sense lor, better I wait. August is coming too... So gonna use 580 for mining too?
Wait better if you're not in a rush.

RX 580? Yes will have to mine a bit but I'm not serious miner.

Currently my GTX 1070 and RX 470 are all having a good rest. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 3 2017, 11:37 AM)
Wait better if you're not in a rush.

RX 580? Yes will have to mine a bit but I'm not serious miner.

Currently my GTX 1070 and RX 470 are all having a good rest. tongue.gif
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how much u bought the rx580 for?

in lowyat all selling bundle now, u wanna buy gpu can, buy the mobo and ram and all sort of things from me first, is this against competition act 2010 ??
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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jul 3 2017, 09:58 AM)
to be honest, i wanna get my hands on to mine some alt-coins, mostly to learn more on the rig building and support such movement. But god damn no supply at all, not even the 2nd or 3rd best mining card  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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Can still find 1060 3GB version, or 1080 ti laugh.gif

QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Jul 3 2017, 11:53 AM)
how much u bought the rx580 for?

in lowyat all selling bundle now, u wanna buy gpu can, buy the mobo and ram and all sort of things from me first, is this against competition act 2010 ??
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Msia got law ? laugh.gif Or anyone follow ? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Jul 3 2017, 11:53 AM)
how much u bought the rx580 for?
Not buying. smile.gif I usually don't buy stuff these days.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 2 2017, 08:04 PM)
For those who are interested, here's what I get with my Nvidia cards

Zotac GTX 1080 Mini 160W 390 Sols/s
Galax GTX 1070 Katana 100W 350 Sols/s
Zotac GTX 1060 AMP 6GB 100W 275 Sols/s
ASUS GTX 1050 Ti Expedition 55W 228 Sols/s

*reading based on the Excavator CLI when doing Zcash mining*
**I'm going by the lowest reading seen. My GTX 1070 card is running at 100W confirm sure

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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ASUS GTX 1050 Ti Expedition 55W 228 Sols/s

confirm sure? what i found on internet is around 180+- Sols/s

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