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 [WTA] bank lawyer fee, why so expensive 3k+-

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TSsteven437
post Mar 26 2007, 05:04 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi guys,

want to ask does it really have to be that expensive sad.gif i thought rm2k+- can settle liau, the lawyer fee price is from CIMB. Anybody got loan from that bank??

Why so expensive sad.gif

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another 3k+- poorer liau... sad.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(adrianocy @ Mar 26 2007, 05:08 PM)
how much loan u getting?
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getting about 150k++ of loan sad.gif

QUOTE(??!! @ Mar 26 2007, 05:11 PM)
Legal fees are based on a  scale determined by the bar council. Members are not supposed to give any discounts.
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really??but 3k+- is really expensive sad.gif is it a standard price, when i ask whether it's negotiable or not the bank fella like don't want to tell sad.gif i think they want to jack up the price so they can earn also sad.gif

damn biatch cry.gif cry.gif

*sigh*
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post Mar 26 2007, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Mar 26 2007, 05:24 PM)
Ask your lawyer for discount... not the banker... my loan agreement fees was nearly RM6k but I got 20 percent discount just ask them its perfectly normal.
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waahhh lau...so expensive 1 arr, how much wor the house you beli tongue.gif 6K is freaking alot ler, the money can use for renovation liau sad.gif

now i know why the lawyer is freaking rich tongue.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ Mar 26 2007, 05:36 PM)
some banks offer package which has free lawyer fees. Scout around wink.gif
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but because CIMB loan interest is very attractive ler..it's only 5.65% ler that's why i take that bank sad.gif don't know still can change to other bank or not ler..the loan not yet approve lar..hmm what if approve liau, how ler??can cancel or not arr blush.gif blush.gif

QUOTE(the65thsquare @ Mar 26 2007, 05:41 PM)
Always get your own lawyer. Bank's lawyers usually don't service you that well cuz Bank is bigger customer to them.

I was unlucky enough to get an incompetent one who didn't file at the proper time, delayed the deal by 3 months (costing me 3 months of added costs) and f-ed up my life for a few months. Cost me much less then your fee for similar loan amount.

BTW, there is a law on how much the lawyer can charge you. first 100K got percent, then next 100K got another percent figure. Cannot change one, so better ask if the sodding lawyer is charging you 500 for phones calls and photostats. Maybe includes other fees such as caveat.
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1st time buying house ler...no experience sad.gif haii~~

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post Mar 26 2007, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(the65thsquare @ Mar 26 2007, 06:16 PM)
Perhaps it is because you go for the special rates that is why you have to go for higher lawyer fee. Wait till they send the evaluators around and charge you another few hundred bucks.

Aiya... everybody kena con wan lah when buying house or car. So many costs they force on you and you have no choice but to pay. You complain no action will be taken, you go court waste more time and money.

Just read your post again. I think you got penalty once the offer letter out and you don't take the offer. Very snake one... go read your offer letter properly. If you want to change lawyers, I can recommend the one I used. Quite fair lah the pricing.
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so many snake around sad.gif, how much arrr your lawyer will charge??can ask for me boh tongue.gif can i take the loan but bring in my own lawyer arr tongue.gif well hope i still can walk out the bank if i do so biggrin.gif hehehe
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post Mar 31 2007, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(bbjslee @ Mar 27 2007, 10:02 AM)
Actually forgot to ask you for details.
Your current lawyer is for S&P or Loan agreement?
Your house is 2nd hand or new (purchase frm developer)?
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sorry for the late reply was busy with the housing thingy buying a house can be in such a pain

1. the lawyer fee is for the loan agreement the S&P no need to pay the fee

2. the house is new, still in development, will complete end of this year, the developer is vilamas sdn. bhd the project is call villa pavillion

QUOTE(the65thsquare @ Mar 26 2007, 06:52 PM)
My loan amount was similar to yours. I paid slightly less than 2K. About 1800 like that I think. Inclusive of a few hundred extra for caveat and some document running, fax and telephone calls.

But first, you have to check with your bank if you can use your own lawyer. I'm sure you can because it is unfair of the bank to insist that you use their lawyer as it does not look out for your rights. I think you can report that to the bar council if it happens.

Then your lawyer will contact the bank's lawyer and they will handle the things between them. You pay your lawyer, bank pays their own lawyer unless your offer letter says otherwise. Then you might have to pay both lawyers. Lagi worse. Again, check har before you sign anything.

Is yours a new or second-hand property?Get the previous S&P if you can. Get any land or strata titles too if you can. Get all the bills - water, letrik, bandaraya, see-hang charges too (Indah Water lah). Get all receipts of downpayment, bank offer letter, etc, etc ready. If you want to take EPF money better start checking procedure too.

Conclusion: First find out if you can appoint your own lawyer before you ask me to spend time and money calling my lawyer. I mean, lets be fair lah, I oso very busy.

Once confirm OK, PM me your full name and phone number and I will arrange for my lawyer to call you right back. You will have to go to both lawyers to sign some documents, but other than that everything else can be handled by despatch (you'll be charged in some instances)


Added on March 26, 2007, 7:42 pmActually ah... 3K is an OK price if you have to bear the lawyer cost for the bank as well. Best is to go for the package with no lawyer fee, but have to pay a bit higher interest.

If your package hv to pay lawyer, then you appoint another lawyer.. end up paying two sets of lawyers very mahal one.
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sorry for the late reply also, yeah i'll give the banker a call to see if i'm allow to do so, else then no choice lar sad.gif rm3k also have to pay lar..who ask me want to buy house rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(abubin @ Apr 3 2007, 03:34 PM)
A lot of people though that buying a house is just it. There are always a lot of other fees that you need to cater. Not like got 10k then use all for down payment. A lot of those hidden fees like lawyer fees, stamping duties, MRTA and so on does need to be catered. Then, once you get the house, you have to set some money for renovation, furniture and fittings. Really a lot of $$$ involves. So, better plan you budget nicely. smile.gif
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budget all plan nicely liau, only thing there is alot of thing that really need to have experience rclxub.gif rclxub.gif else you will be a headless chicken running around don't know what to do 1st sad.gif

again, thanks alot for the explanation smile.gif and opinion biggrin.gif appreciate it smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2007, 08:44 PM

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really damn dulan today..i'm suppose to go sign agreement with the banker for the home loan, then suddenly the interest rate was different from what i have been told before, then reading through the agreement i found that they have bundle with a insurance call GMTA not mRTA i was like WTF???then i screw the banker in front of everybody, well i doesn't want to but my appointment is at 12pm, she was late for 1 hour never even have the courtesy to call me and tell me that she is late and i haven't got my breakfast yet she let me wait so long, and wasted all my time for my work.

some more when she come with the agreement it's full of bullsh!t, ever heard of a bank that don't allow you to pay more not even rm1 for your loan..number 1 WTF!!! then i truely piss off...some more read through the agreement saw something other then MRTA which was not mention before, fine then i ask her, WTF is this money for she say is for insurance but if you don't want also can, then i lagi dulan, i shout at her don't you suppose to give me an option whether i want to bundle this shit or not before you come out this agreement? then she keep quiet, after that she say if you don't want we can remove that but you won't enjoy the zero interest for the 1st year, and you will be charge 0.01% then i told her, to screw with the whatsoever GMTA that you are offering, that 0.01% is nothing to me, but why the F*** i can't pay more for the installment if i got the extra money..

the service is so so so bad...never get loan from C**B bank..the banker SUX, but this is an experience that i get with C**B i'll not go to them again.

SO PPL STAY REALLY FAR AWAY FROM C**B if you are given a choice.

Now i have to look for other bank liau rclxub.gif rclxub.gif luckily i read through the agreement before i sign.

so please read what so every paper that you gonna sign...play safe, don't lazy..
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post Apr 15 2007, 09:45 AM

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i already sign my S&P with the developer, but not the loan agreement with the bank, i have consult some of the ppl from the bank they said i'm still ok to look for other bank, as long as i haven't sign any paper with the bank that approve my loan. so after this i'll look for other bank already i don't want to go with the C**B now, but this thursday i need to pay the 10% down payment because i have sign the S&P...

anybody got any banker to introduce arr??stupid C**B banker damn screw up everything...b@stard
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post Apr 17 2007, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Apr 16 2007, 09:58 AM)
I can intro you my banker but where do you live... its better if your banker is located nearby... to where you live nod.gif

I live in Puchong and my loan is from OUB Puchong Branch just few minutes away from my house.

Anyway I'll PM you his info...
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bro thanks alot biggrin.gif got your pm smile.gif

i live at bukit jalil. puchong is not very far from me biggrin.gif heheh, i'm going to give your friend a call

thanks alot notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


Added on April 17, 2007, 11:44 amneed some advice on the loan guys, what do you all think?

should i go for the loan that lawyer fee absorb by the bank or should i go for lower interest rate but lawyer fee bare on my own..

how ler??

i check pbb the interested rate is:
1st 5 year - 1.10
6 years to 15th year - 1.25
15 to 30years - 1.35

but the the legal fee i have to bear sad.gif

or UOB

Year 1 0% (Fixed)
Year 2 BLR - 1.25% (min 5.50%)
Year 3 - 5 BLR + 0%
Thereafter BLR - 1.00%

i have to bear the legal fee also.

This post has been edited by steven437: Apr 17 2007, 11:55 AM
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post Apr 18 2007, 01:56 PM

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CIMB rate is

1st year - 0%

2-8 years - 1.00%

9-30 years - 1.10

hmmm cry.gif really don't know which 1 to go with, how ler cry.gif any more opinion??

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