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miyakochan89
post Apr 23 2018, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 23 2018, 08:53 AM)
Goldie is fun when you first encounter it
real battle is at Area 4, which is fun

but after a few rounds, it gets tiring & repetitive
I only managed to complete 3 rounds of getting it's horn (the rest of completions are by other team) before quitting.

don't like the RNG aspect of getting weapons
and don't like the grind for some of the mats for armor

basically if you're grouped with a weak team, your chances of getting a reward level high enough for gold reward is very slim, usually by the time you complete a round, the other team might have already gotten the horn, and you're wasting time with low level reward, and minimal mats
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I agree with you, it gets overly repetitive. And you have to get higher in research level to break the parts easier, which means you only have a good chance of winning after failing the first few quests for most people. It's too dumb and especially the online parts, forcing you to stay in the session with the same people and waiting for people to join is not fun at all. It's like making the game into a MMORPG.

Please spare me 'You can solo talk' because let's be real, a huge majority of the players aren't that hardcore or good enough to play solo in a big event like this.

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Apr 23 2018, 09:35 AM
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post Apr 23 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 23 2018, 08:53 AM)
Goldie is fun when you first encounter it
real battle is at Area 4, which is fun

but after a few rounds, it gets tiring & repetitive
I only managed to complete 3 rounds of getting it's horn (the rest of completions are by other team) before quitting.

don't like the RNG aspect of getting weapons
and don't like the grind for some of the mats for armor

basically if you're grouped with a weak team, your chances of getting a reward level high enough for gold reward is very slim, usually by the time you complete a round, the other team might have already gotten the horn, and you're wasting time with low level reward, and minimal mats
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Well gotta agree with your last paragraph. It's so frustrating especially when u pair with a team that a fella carted 3 times in a row or everthing just went wrong at the 4th area to cause quest failed bangwall.gif

About the RNG aspect, well this is a grinding game, nothing come easy as we always work for a single piece of armor or weapon that we wanted. Back then in Destiny people farm for a single exotic for months. MHW is really less 'stressful' already.

I know it is utterly frustrating, but yea keep your faith and work for what you want and it will EVENTUALLY be yours. Well, eventually tongue.gif Cheers!

P/S: At least farm for some Bushi Tickets to deliver it for the layered armor, it looks awesome imo.
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post Apr 23 2018, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(T09 @ Apr 23 2018, 10:08 AM)
Well gotta agree with your last paragraph. It's so frustrating especially when u pair with a team that a fella carted 3 times in a row or everthing just went wrong at the 4th area to cause quest failed bangwall.gif

About the RNG aspect, well this is a grinding game, nothing come easy as we always work for a single piece of armor or weapon that we wanted. Back then in Destiny people farm for a single exotic for months. MHW is really less 'stressful' already.

I know it is utterly frustrating, but yea keep your faith and work for what you want and it will EVENTUALLY be yours. Well, eventually  tongue.gif  Cheers!

P/S: At least farm for some Bushi Tickets to deliver it for the layered armor, it looks awesome imo.
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well, each encounter is basically almost an hour long if you wanna get the rewards
I had a bad encounter once, 45 minutes, 3 games with 2 failed, other team gets the horn
and what do I get from my 45 minutes? 1 miserable bushi ticket, and 3 useless tier 6 weapon

in order to get good reward, you need to invest at least almost an hour in each session, and pray the other team doesn't get the horn first before you complete yours.
time is a luxury for me nowadays, which I don't have. sad.gif

I'm fine with RNG of parts, at least I've a target weapon to farm for
RNG weapon is like Destiny already, which I quit becos of that and came to MHW tongue.gif

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Apr 23 2018, 10:17 AM
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post Apr 23 2018, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Zaszo @ Apr 22 2018, 04:28 PM)
Is normal shots skill will affect bow that come with elemental damage ?
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yes. Only if you use normal shot (no vial)if I am not mistaken

QUOTE(T09 @ Apr 23 2018, 10:08 AM)
Well gotta agree with your last paragraph. It's so frustrating especially when u pair with a team that a fella carted 3 times in a row or everthing just went wrong at the 4th area to cause quest failed bangwall.gif

About the RNG aspect, well this is a grinding game, nothing come easy as we always work for a single piece of armor or weapon that we wanted. Back then in Destiny people farm for a single exotic for months. MHW is really less 'stressful' already.

I know it is utterly frustrating, but yea keep your faith and work for what you want and it will EVENTUALLY be yours. Well, eventually  tongue.gif  Cheers!

P/S: At least farm for some Bushi Tickets to deliver it for the layered armor, it looks awesome imo.
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Agree. I just need 2 more hbg from Kulve , rage and support and one more jewel. Just pray that you get a good team. A good team pretty much shatter kulve at second area, hit it with boulder at 3rd area, spending about 1 minute there and kill it on 4th area within 2-3minutes. You need to hit her with almost all boulder and cannon in area one. My best team so far is at 10 minutes.

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post Apr 23 2018, 10:47 AM

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The rewards need to be tweaked so that everyone, regardless of teams, gets at least one rarity 8 item. AT LEAST ONE. After all the hard work and not getting anything useful, even rarities 6 AND 7 items, is really frustrating. Spent most of yesterday afternoon doing Kulve and only once my team succeeded in breaking the horns. But the other times, often the same people carted and when the session completed the sieges, ended up with all trash items.

For the time invested, at least give something worthwhile. Or maybe we'll have to wait for the randoms to get good..
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post Apr 23 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Odinn @ Apr 23 2018, 10:47 AM)
The rewards need to be tweaked so that everyone, regardless of teams, gets at least one rarity 8 item. AT LEAST ONE. After all the hard work and not getting anything useful, even rarities 6 AND 7 items, is really frustrating. Spent most of yesterday afternoon doing Kulve and only once my team succeeded in breaking the horns. But the other times, often the same people carted and when the session completed the sieges, ended up with all trash items.

For the time invested, at least give something worthwhile. Or maybe we'll have to wait for the randoms to get good..
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I pretty much afraid teaming with green player especially with the one with bow. They pretty much the one that fail my quest repeatedly. Teaming with lancer and charge blade is great. Btw, you only need lvl 11 for at least good reward.
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QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Apr 23 2018, 10:54 AM)
I pretty much afraid teaming with green player especially with the one with bow. They pretty much the one that fail my quest repeatedly. Teaming with lancer and charge blade is great. Btw, you only need lvl 11 for at least good reward.
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i had level 17 few times also dont get gem, my sole gem comes from the one where ppl got carted...lol
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Apr 23 2018, 10:54 AM)
I pretty much afraid teaming with green player especially with the one with bow. They pretty much the one that fail my quest repeatedly. Teaming with lancer and charge blade is great. Btw, you only need lvl 11 for at least good reward.
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I've had someone using HH fail my quest several times. Like, HH? I don't know how it works in detail but isn't it primarily a support role?

Not wanting to sound arrogant, elitist or pro la. But play to your role's strengths. Few times also noticed people in the group don't bring lifepowders or mega barrel bombs. Even after I take Kulve down, people quickly run to the head and start wailing at her. Not many barrel bombs.
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:13 AM

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The main reason for me to do this Kulve Taroth siege quest are the layered armor which is very nice.

P/S: if you like damaged armor style,go for sabi,if you looking to play with different colour option,go for homare.
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(razr_sped @ Apr 23 2018, 11:01 AM)
i had level 17 few times also dont get gem, my sole gem comes from the one where ppl got carted...lol
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You can get gem from random piece drop you collected, from horn gold piece and rumor has it you can get from mining at area one.

QUOTE(Odinn @ Apr 23 2018, 11:05 AM)
I've had someone using HH fail my quest several times. Like, HH? I don't know how it works in detail but isn't it primarily a support role?

Not wanting to sound arrogant, elitist or pro la. But play to your role's strengths. Few times also noticed people in the group don't bring lifepowders or mega barrel bombs. Even after I take Kulve down, people quickly run to the head and start wailing at her. Not many barrel bombs.
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That is why I choose team over 150 hr or 200 hr. Most of them really competent with about 8- 16 barrel bombs. I don't trust anyone under hr 50 to have fully upgraded armor to tank kulve hit.. Kulve sleeping animation is so long, only idiot keep wailing it and wake it up sad.gif

Anyway, a trivia, kulve use almost the same attack pattern as great jagras and dodo.
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 23 2018, 10:15 AM)
well, each encounter is basically almost an hour long if you wanna get the rewards
I had a bad encounter once, 45 minutes, 3 games with 2 failed, other team gets the horn
and what do I get from my 45 minutes? 1 miserable bushi ticket, and 3 useless tier 6 weapon

in order to get good reward, you need to invest at least almost an hour in each session, and pray the other team doesn't get the horn first before you complete yours.
time is a luxury for me nowadays, which I don't have.  sad.gif

I'm fine with RNG of parts, at least I've a target weapon to farm for
RNG weapon is like Destiny already, which I quit becos of that and came to MHW tongue.gif
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How long the encounter is depends on the group as a whole and how much progress they made. I don't think I have any that actually goes for an hour.

As for another group breaking the horn, it doesn't matter, if your group is still fighting Kulve when that happen you can still continue and break the horn, unless you fail then you will only get the rewards that you claim from the Hub lass.

If I not mistaken the reward you claim is the same for everyone, if the other group broke the horn and the reward is at the highest level then the rest will get the same. I remember having that happen to me once or twice, when we fail to break the horn and another group completed theirs, so we just claim the rewards.

I actually join random group a lot, hmm nvr been in a team that is that bad, the most is at area 3 they don't lure Kulve to the stalactite. Most doesn't sleep bomb though, that require a more co-ordinated group. And most doesn't do life powder or whatever, I have wide range on my armor so when I heal, I heal them a little as well.

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post Apr 23 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Odinn @ Apr 23 2018, 11:05 AM)
I've had someone using HH fail my quest several times. Like, HH? I don't know how it works in detail but isn't it primarily a support role?

Not wanting to sound arrogant, elitist or pro la. But play to your role's strengths. Few times also noticed people in the group don't bring lifepowders or mega barrel bombs. Even after I take Kulve down, people quickly run to the head and start wailing at her. Not many barrel bombs.
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actually one of my best hunt is with a HH member, he buffed us up and makes the fight a breeze
fastest one to get the horn as well
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(valho @ Apr 23 2018, 11:41 AM)
How long the encounter is depends on the group as a whole and how much progress they made. I don't think I have any that actually goes for an hour.

As for another group breaking the horn, it doesn't matter, if your group is still fighting Kulve when that happen you can still continue and break the horn, unless you fail then you will only get the rewards that you claim from the Hub lass.

If I not mistaken the reward you claim is the same for everyone, if the other group broke the horn and the reward is at the highest level then the rest will get the same. I remember having that happen to me once or twice, when we fail to break the horn and another group completed theirs, so we just claim the rewards.

I actually join random group a lot, hmm nvr been in a team that is that bad, the most is at area 3 they don't lure Kulve to the stalactite. Most doesn't sleep bomb though, that require a more co-ordinated group. And most doesn't do life powder or whatever, I have wide range on my armor so when I heal, I heal them a little as well.
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On average, random groups go for 20ish minutes based on my times yesterday.

Yes as long as one group in your session breaks the horns, everyone will get the rewards even if your group is still fighting it.

And yes most groups fail at 3rd phase, either not luring it under the rocks or over the eruptions.

QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 23 2018, 11:56 AM)
actually one of my best hunt is with a HH member, he buffed us up and makes the fight a breeze
fastest one to get the horn as well
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Yeah when he was buffing us, it was good. Then when he starts going in to attack up close and gets bowled over or breathed on while backed up against a wall.. doh.gif

On a separate note, do you guys intentionally try to raise the reward level to max before breaking the horns, or just keep trying regardless of the level? The higher reward level, better chances at better rewards, but I've not seen groups coordinate this way yet.

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post Apr 23 2018, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Odinn @ Apr 23 2018, 11:59 AM)
On average, random groups go for 20ish minutes based on my times yesterday.

Yes as long as one group in your session breaks the horns, everyone will get the rewards even if your group is still fighting it.

And yes most groups fail at 3rd phase, either not luring it under the rocks or over the eruptions.
Yeah when he was buffing us, it was good. Then when he starts going in to attack up close and gets bowled over or breathed on while backed up against a wall.. doh.gif

On a separate note, do you guys intentionally try to raise the reward level to max before breaking the horns, or just keep trying regardless of the level? The higher reward level, better chances at better rewards, but I've not seen groups coordinate this way yet.
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I have finish farming the event, got both Kulve armor and also both layered armor. Weapon wise not all of it are worth getting it seems, so kinda lazy to farm them now. Back to farming tempered tier 2 and 3.
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post Apr 23 2018, 01:53 PM

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Maybe some of you are playing it wrong.

I grind for 8 hours on 19 Apr and already got both Taroth alpha & beta armour set, all costume armours, both Taroth & Samurai palico set.

General Gathering Hub strategy for good loot within shortest time spent :
1) Use the search Online session filter, set to "Experience" & "Kulve Taroth" preferences.
2) Join the resulting session populated with at least 13/16.
3) Check the current pursuit level and the current available siege squad pursuit level.
4) If the current pursuit level is 3 or 4 and the available squad pursuit level is 1, don't waste your time joining them.
5) Wait for someone to start a siege at current level 3 or 4, then join them if members are HR 100+.
6) Once you complete the round (not expected to break the horns here), your rewards level will jump from 1 to at least 8 pursuit 3 or level 10 in pursuit 4 depending on the hub's siege progress.
7) Wait until someone started pursuit 5 or 6, then join them if members are HR 100+.
8) When the horns are broken by other squad, your rewards level should be around 15 or even the max 17.
9) If your squad manage to break the horns, then if you are lucky you can carve max 2 melded weapons per horn piece.
Bonus) Get your forging gem from the carving horn plating drop anytime during any pursuit level. Don't rely on the end quest rewards, because it is super rare when it happens.

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Apr 23 2018, 01:53 PM)
Maybe some of you are playing it wrong.

I grind for 8 hours on 19 Apr and already got both Taroth alpha & beta armour set, all costume armours, both Taroth & Samurai palico set.

General Gathering Hub strategy for good loot within shortest time spent :
1) Use the search Online session filter, set to "Experience" & "Kulve Taroth" preferences.
2) Join the resulting session populated with at least 13/16.
3) Check the current pursuit level and the current available siege squad pursuit level.
4) If the current pursuit level is 3 or 4 and the available squad pursuit level is 1, don't waste your time joining them.
5) Wait for someone to start a siege at current level 3 or 4, then join them if members are HR 100+.
6) Once you complete the round (not expected to break the horns here), your rewards level will jump from 1 to at least 8 pursuit 3 or level 10 in pursuit 4 depending on the hub's siege progress.
7) Wait until someone started pursuit 5 or 6, then join them if members are HR 100+.
8) When the horns are broken by other squad, your rewards level should be around 15 or even the max 17.
9) If your squad manage to break the horns, then if you are lucky you can carve max 2 melded weapons per horn piece.
Bonus) Get your forging gem from the carving horn plating drop anytime during any pursuit level. Don't rely on the end quest rewards, because it is super rare when it happens.
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just dont be selfish, if everyone playing like this, there is no more Level 3 above for you join too. They are start from Level 1 too.
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It's not selfish when I do contribute for parts breaking to the hub's siege progress and heal team members too.
Also keep gathering tracks and gold chips to increase the pursuit level, when most players I see don't bother to do this as much.

Don't tell me you will keep joining level 1 pursuit siege to "help" when part cannot be broken easily here, when the hub's pursuit level is at 3 or 4 ?

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Apr 23 2018, 02:00 PM)
It's not selfish when I do contribute for parts breaking to the hub's siege progress and heal team members too.

Don't tell me you will keep joining level 1 pursuit siege to "help" when part cannot be broken easily here.
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If there is no more or got candidates, to join in, i will create for level 1 too.

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QUOTE(valho @ Apr 23 2018, 01:35 PM)
I have finish farming the event, got both Kulve armor and also both layered armor. Weapon wise not all of it are worth getting it seems, so kinda lazy to farm them now. Back to farming tempered tier 2 and 3.
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I just need Kulve's gems and I'm done. Can't really be arsed with the weapons, what with the randomness of it all.

QUOTE(Hattori @ Apr 23 2018, 01:53 PM)
Maybe some of you are playing it wrong.

I grind for 8 hours on 19 Apr and already got both Taroth alpha & beta armour set, all costume armours, both Taroth & Samurai palico set.

General Gathering Hub strategy for good loot within shortest time spent :
1) Use the search Online session filter, set to "Experience" & "Kulve Taroth" preferences.
2) Join the resulting session populated with at least 13/16.
3) Check the current pursuit level and the current available siege squad pursuit level.
4) If the current pursuit level is 3 or 4 and the available squad pursuit level is 1, don't waste your time joining them.
5) Wait for someone to start a siege at current level 3 or 4, then join them if members are HR 100+.
6) Once you complete the round (not expected to break the horns here), your rewards level will jump from 1 to at least 8 pursuit 3 or level 10 in pursuit 4 depending on the hub's siege progress.
7) Wait until someone started pursuit 5 or 6, then join them if members are HR 100+.
8) When the horns are broken by other squad, your rewards level should be around 15 or even the max 17.
9) If your squad manage to break the horns, then if you are lucky you can carve max 2 melded weapons per horn piece.
Bonus) Get your forging gem from the carving horn plating drop anytime during any pursuit level. Don't rely on the end quest rewards, because it is super rare when it happens.
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Appreciate the tips, but I'm not looking to go down that road. I don't mind helping/carrying lower ranked players provided they do their bit to help. If they keep getting in the way and carting, then that I think no sane person would want to help. But if they are helping with buffs, heals, playing smart/defensively, then I'm ok with that. smile.gif

Cheers though. thumbsup.gif

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