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AaronHo
post Apr 6 2007, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:18 AM)
normal gear is fine. What are your dps classes? if you have 2 prot tank warriors ur screwed. Always apply this rule, 1 warrior & 1 hybrid tank (preferbally druid).

dps has to be fast here, get everybody to make a macro for /target astral. assign a hateful bolt eater, preferbally a combat rogue as he can dps hard and fast. 100 ar on him is a bonus.

Here's our line up.

Prot warrior

Combat rogue
UA warlocks x 2 (although ruin locks would do very nicely here)
kitty mew mew dpser
shadow priest
hunter

pally
shaman
priest
pally should be on main tank, priest and shamans on spot heals. get all casters in 1 group and use concentration aura.

the prot would tank the curator with the back of the curator facing the entrance of where u came from. The hunter would be behind the warrior but in range for healers and the others all would "STACK" at one point behind the curator. DPS adds, this is your main priority. Rogue should be on curator and called for backup in case there are too many adds to handle. no dots! every1 should burst dps. including your shadow priest. mind blast + shadow word death + mind blast = power burst dmg. remember to dps down the last add when curator evocates before goin on to the curator.

shaman would just chain heal. curator hits like a girl. 3k at most on teh tank. and here is from a pally POV. save your loh for the 15% enrage. that's if you have improved loh, if not dont bother. what i would do is wait for enrage throw loh and then use fel mana potion. 20k armor on your tank makes even melchazaar's hit a joke.
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Thanks for the tips set84.
sets84
post Apr 6 2007, 01:31 PM

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np, enjoy the t4 gloves he drops ^^
Gladys
post Apr 6 2007, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Kalimuthu @ Apr 5 2007, 11:18 PM)
member? i was the god in ID, bliss used to be my whore ..
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QUOTE(Bogardan @ Apr 6 2007, 12:15 AM)
The gavel of pure light is pretty good with +81 enchant
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awww its penuts compare to light justice or something from prince.......

QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:18 AM)
pally should be on main tank,
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nah, priest can on mt n do it well to. flex.gif


Added on April 6, 2007, 4:36 pmone more *o*

too** lazy edit.

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sets84
post Apr 6 2007, 06:08 PM

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i knew some1 would say why not priest on mt. the reason here is that you're stacking, which means there's a high chance yuo will be eating chain lightnings from astral adds and disruptions to your heals. pally on the other hand suffer no such problems, talent + concentration aura = no disruption on holy light. besides as i mentioned, let the pally be the 1 spamming the heals to let him go oom by the enrage phase and throw in a loh for 30% extra armor.


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post Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM

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prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.

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post Apr 6 2007, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 06:08 PM)
i knew some1 would say why not priest on mt. the reason here is that you're stacking, which means there's a high chance yuo will be eating chain lightnings from astral adds and disruptions to your heals. pally on the other hand suffer no such problems, talent + concentration aura = no disruption on holy light. besides as i mentioned, let the pally be the 1 spamming the heals to let him go oom by the enrage phase and throw in a loh for 30% extra armor.
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pallies can also spam flash of gays and have unlimited mana, EZ mode fo sho. wtb nerf


Added on April 6, 2007, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM)
prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.
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what are you talking about, they got angel wings, can be judge dredd, gundam, can be robocop, and can be a banana... seriously, they are better than god already imo!

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post Apr 6 2007, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM)
prist got shadow fiend !!!!
n priest do have talent in disturbing cast too..

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
i kno pally is good, but they r not god. okay. sif.
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lol i'm not trying to put down priests, its just that for this fight we would definately prefer pallies on mt. the priests ability to use hots in spot heals is a great asset. 2.0 secs cast on the holy light + 6% chance to crit makes it the best single target healer hands down.

and no, flash heals are for retards in karazhan. the last pally who explained that flash heal was good enough for kara was kicked out of the raid for being a smart ass.
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post Apr 6 2007, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:22 PM)
lol i'm not trying to put down priests, its just that for this fight we would definately prefer pallies on mt. the priests ability to use hots in spot heals is a great asset. 2.0 secs cast on the holy light + 6% chance to crit makes it the best single target healer hands down.

and no, flash heals are for retards in karazhan. the last pally who explained that flash heal was good enough for kara was kicked out of the raid for being a smart ass.
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still doesnt deny the fact it takes no mana lol
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post Apr 6 2007, 07:29 PM

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it's just a consolation, free heals for no mana. but for spike dmgs to happen ever so often these days... flash heals were already ignored, even way back in naxx days. priests' flash heals can easily double the amount.

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 07:29 PM)
it's just a consolation, free heals for no mana. but for spike dmgs to happen ever so often these days... flash heals were already ignored, even way back in naxx days. priests' flash heals can easily double the amount.
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lol true, priest flash usually doubles pala's flash, but since you mentioned pre-bc, pre bc pala are actually flashing more often than holy to cover the 3rd category of heals - fast heals.

a combi of fast/mid/slow heals are used to provide steady heal streams to tanks keeping them 100% hp 100% of the time. thats one of the reasons why allis had so much advantage over horde back then.

sometimes, though not always, the ammount healed doesnt always matter. i mean, if the tank have only need 100hp heal, you go heal him for 4k, gg overhealing self mana burn?
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post Apr 7 2007, 12:31 AM

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nopes
flash heals on pally were ignored the moment the 41 point talents were out. pally's holy light will always be more beneficial down ranked cos the amount of bonus they get from blessing of ligth is always the same. 6% additional crit bonus from the talent for holy light is enough to justify. if they need light heals, it would be covered by heal over times ever since the hots can stack.

nobody heals for 100hp...

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post Apr 7 2007, 12:56 AM

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"awww its penuts compare to light justice or something from prince......."
wrong.. +heal spec is very dodgy. In raids, maxrank heal will almost always overheal.. so i wouldnt use lights justice over gavel's mana regen..


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post Apr 7 2007, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 7 2007, 12:31 AM)
nopes
flash heals on pally were ignored the moment the 41 point talents were out. pally's holy light will always be more beneficial down ranked cos the amount of bonus they get from blessing of ligth is always the same. 6% additional crit bonus from the talent for holy light is enough to justify. if they need light heals, it would be covered by heal over times ever since the hots can stack.

nobody heals for 100hp...
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ill bold quote it:
i mean, if the tank have only need 100hp heal, you go heal him for 4k, gg overhealing self mana burn?
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post Apr 7 2007, 09:57 PM

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post Apr 9 2007, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 7 2007, 09:57 PM)
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Erm a question. I watched nihilum's fights and Awake seems to spam flash and occasionally holy for big heals. But you're saying Holy spamming is better.

Do you have any issues with mana by spamming Holy the whole fight? What is your spell crit rating, +healing and which holy rank are u using?

I'm levelling a BE pally and planning to be a dedicated heal bot. Perhaps you can link your armory for me to look at?
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QUOTE(heartfang @ Apr 9 2007, 12:23 AM)
Erm a question. I watched nihilum's fights and Awake seems to spam flash and occasionally holy for big heals. But you're saying Holy spamming is better.

Do you have any issues with mana by spamming Holy the whole fight? What is your spell crit rating, +healing and which holy rank are u using?

I'm levelling a BE pally and planning to be a dedicated heal bot. Perhaps you can link your armory for me to look at?
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umm hes a warlock... lol
but hey, OBVIOUSLY that nihilum paladin is a nub, right?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 9 2007, 12:32 AM)
umm hes a warlock... lol
but hey, OBVIOUSLY that nihilum paladin is a nub, right?
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erm... if i'm not mistaken he changed toons with his brother so he's playing a paladin now. But if I'm wrong, sorry and move along unsure.gif.
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post Apr 9 2007, 12:22 PM

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lol.......
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QUOTE(heartfang @ Apr 9 2007, 12:21 PM)
erm... if i'm not mistaken he changed toons with his brother so he's playing a paladin now. But if I'm wrong, sorry and move along unsure.gif.
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yeah i did noticed that too. Awake is way beyond me in terms of skills. I'll explain why when i come back later. sorry wasn't able to reply to your post since i wasn't able to come online no more in the office. all i can say for now is

holy light spam = safe way. for ppl whose skill is way beyond my level such as awake who has been playing with a pally since his DnT days, i can only watch in awe.

and yes you got that info right, we switched chars. makes me wonder who you are now =p.

and Q, if you want to hold nihilum's credibility against me, do check your guild on dps statistcs. your dpsers suck and yours is not at the optimum rate, if your an ass rogue. sometimes really, look before you leap... you are only making a fool of yourself more than ever without me even trying.

and also throw away that riftmaker man, the 10% negation doesn't stack with thunderclap if im not mistaken. its pathetic...

my rogue threw it away 2 days after he got his. the others didnt even bother...
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post Apr 10 2007, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 9 2007, 07:53 PM)
yeah i did noticed that too. Awake is way beyond me in terms of skills. I'll explain why when i come back later. sorry wasn't able to reply to your post since i wasn't able to come online no more in the office. all i can say for now is

holy light spam = safe way. for ppl whose skill is way beyond my level such as awake who has been playing with a pally since his DnT days, i can only watch in awe.

and yes you got that info right, we switched chars. makes me wonder who you are now =p.

and Q, if you want to hold nihilum's credibility against me, do check your guild on dps statistcs. your dpsers suck and yours is not at the optimum rate, if your an ass rogue. sometimes really, look before you leap... you are only making a fool of yourself more than ever without me even trying.

and also throw away that riftmaker man, the 10% negation doesn't stack with thunderclap if im not mistaken. its pathetic...

my rogue threw it away 2 days after he got his. the others didnt even bother...
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uh uh ur the one whos been waving nihilum around, not me, now that it bit you back, not really my fault ur sour. and my guild's dps statistics are pathetic? cmon, do you EVEN have my guild's dps statistics? do you EVEN know what combat mutilate rogues are capable of? (assuming ur viewing my armory as sub mutilate)
until you post me recaps or dps meters of ur awesome rogues charting AT LEAST 650dps, dont even argue any further.

and which smartass would want the crappy proc from the riftmaker? do you know why i even offhand it in the first place? wait, do you know how mutilate works? your the one making urself looking like an utter retard now, not me. ill give you hints: no the proc existing or not doesnt matter, nor do the agi, or the AP stats. one would've think that the enchant on the blade would've given the obvious away, but sadly, ur too hotheaded to see shit.

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if ur rogues cant even > my dps with supposedly way better gears considering you guys down prince and all, and YOU urself claiming them having better gears. seriously, maybe they should respec.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 10 2007, 02:24 AM

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