QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Jan 26 2022, 10:27 PM)
Malaysia timing would be 3am GMT+8 27th of January.This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jan 26 2022, 10:43 PM
Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, Comprehensive guide on first page.
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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Jan 26 2022, 10:27 PM) Malaysia timing would be 3am GMT+8 27th of January.This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jan 26 2022, 10:43 PM ktek liked this post
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Feb 25 2022, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Feb 25 2022, 05:22 PM) Volatility is always scary. Do not mix up legal tender with currency. Crypto is not currency and will never be recognised as one as long as it is not backed by a country. It is no more than a commodity just like oil and gold which is priced in US Dollars. Buy itself it has no value unless a country recognises it as a legal tender (you can count by number of fingers on your hand) or as 'equity' by a country's Security Commissions as a Digital Exchange. If Malaysia's SC did not list LUNO (and the other 2 local companies) as Digital Exchange, crypto would have no value in Malaysia and cannot be exchanged for Ringgit Malaysia and therefore no value in Malaysia. Yes Bitcoin carries USD but unlike USD Fiat currency which can be traded to Ringgit Malaysia in local Forex, without a recognised Digital Exchange, Bitcoin would be worthless in Malaysia.I thought that before, having regulation would ensure that cryptocurrency have a place to stay. Including tax and or transaction related charges. but the bigger risk is, eg USA just outright ban the transactions. Unlikely since most of the origin of cryptocurrency is based in USA? For USA to ban cryptocurrency, means they need to argue against having cryptocurrency. of which we have the following, they dont control the minting of cryptocurrency. Just how much effect cryptocurrency have on USD? -- if the effect is it boost USD --- for sure they will keep it going. If it devalue USD... you betcha -- ban hammer coming. Even if you got institutional investor blah blah... China and India already ban. - but they are trying to do their own cryptocurrency. To me, I think of cryptocurrency as a politically neutral currency. but it is just way too volatile and I do not think it will go to the moon. Is cryptocurrency a trap to burn all fiat currency? maybe, because now people are using hard earned fiat to buy crypto- and once it hits a certain level, the government just come out and say ops sorry, we dont want you to cash out your crypto --- ban hammer. After that, all your "hard earned money is trap in crypto with no use and no ability to convert to fiat for usage" Is that the real reason China ban it? Just be careful. Dont borrow money to sink into crypto. eg. just like we use hard earned fiat money to buy gold coins in World of Warcraft --- ever think that it may be one way only? because it could be. and for US federal reserve, does buying cryptocurrency using USD have the same effect as taking USD out of circulation? |
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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Feb 26 2022, 03:29 AM) Hallooo... bitcoin has been traded in Malaysia long ago in p2p method. The value is there even without licensed digital exchange. Halloo.. P2P method means converting it to another currency and then converting to Ringgit. Not direct Bitcoin to Ringgit coz there were no licensed digital exchange to do so in Malaysia. That is how people trade forex in Malaysia with foreign brokers since there are no SC registered Forex brokers in Malaysia. The value you mention is still in USD which is the recognised legal currency in Malaysia when you try to transfer your funds back. That is the point I'm trying to make. |
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QUOTE(Amaru @ Feb 26 2022, 08:01 AM) Bitcoin is legal tender and recognised as a currency in El Salvador. They are not using crypto because their currency is shit.. they are using the USD value tied to it. If you understand Forex, you will realised they use USD not because their currency is shit but for the stability and strength of the USD. Crypto itself is still too volatile for countries to accept it as much as the USD. The same reason for a some countries using USD cash as legal tender in their countries as USD is stable but their own currency is not. At one point a long time ago when most members here aren't even born yet, we can pay cashiers in shopping centers in Malaysia with USD as accepted as legal tender. Damn I feel old.Anyway even if 0 countries did, as long as there are enough people that recognise and accept crypto as a currency, it can be. People use cryptocurrrencies in Venezuela and Argentina because the bolivar and peso are shit. |
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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Feb 26 2022, 06:17 PM) I dont think u know what is P2P. When we trade in Malaysia market the price will be in RM instead of USD. And bitcoin price is different in every country by 0 to 10%. Bitcoin has been traded without licensed exchange for many years worldwide. The value has nothing to do with licensed exchange. I have been trading 4 years in p2p. Dont lecture me bro and stop giving wrong info. P2P is similar to blackmarket brokerage. I know what P2P is and practically just 2 people doing a direct transaction aka blackmarket. There is nothing you can say that will change that. I was talking about the recognition of the crypto. Just like how until today, Malaysia does not allow Forex Brokers to officially operate out of Malaysia and all forex traders have to use brokerage outside of Malaysia.The same question goes out to why Malaysia banned Binance. Because it was getting popular and not registered by the Malaysian Security Commissions and they need to protect those that is registered. Edit: BTW 4 years is not along time. Been doing this since before 'What is bitcoin..' and currently moved to full time trading. This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Feb 26 2022, 07:39 PM |
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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Feb 26 2022, 10:59 PM) Read back this post. What are u talking about p2p covert to other currency then ringgit. Do u understand what are u talking about. Without a legal exchange you can't convert BTC to MYR. P2P means you give your BTC to someone who eventually has to sell it to USD to buy MYR to give it to you in MYR. Read this up on how currency actually works. Just because your BTC gets sold to MYR, the trail of conversion is BTC to USD to MYR. Now that Malaysia has 3 exchanges, you don't need P2P because people can open a LUNO account, receive BTC and sold MYR by LUNO Malaysia unless you want to do some SHADY transactions that you don't want the authorities to know.. well well.. doesn't that play into the 'black market' terms.. Then now u relate p2p to blackmarket. Google search p2p if you do not know about it. And again bitcoin value has nothing to do with exchange or p2p. It is about the demand and supply thats why the price exist. |
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QUOTE(latjiu @ Sep 21 2022, 10:07 AM) lol I know nothing about crypto. and some of us do short on the way down and don't have to wait for next year or two. As long as there are movement either direction we are happy.probably should learn before speaking I just share this article for those of you in the crypto subforum to stay alert and vigilant. oh really? All my assets are traditional, time-tested securities like cash and equivalents, stocks, bonds, and mutual funds. nobody asked sure kick us when we're down, ill be sure to tag you in a year or two in reply |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 10 2022, 11:28 AM) On a call before Binance pulled an about-face and bailed on its takeover offer, Bankman-Fried informed investors his crypto exchange faced a shortfall of up to $8 billion and needed $4 billion to remain solvent, the person said, asking not to be named discussing private talks. Unfortunately it wasn't worth 32 billion in actual USD but in cryptos that is open to market manipulation. When their customers make a bank run for real money, they just don't have any.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...nkruptcy-likely Ftx was worth $32 billion not long ago. If the emperor is naked, what about others? |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 18 2022, 05:18 PM) How bad were FTX's internal controls? Alameda CEO said she didn't need her maths skills and didn't even know how a stop-loss is used.. what could go wrong.. lol.https://mobile.twitter.com/GRDecter/status/...272102047580161 Similar could happen at other crypto outfit. Only after the tide turned will discover who was swimming naked. |
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Nov 18 2022, 05:53 PM) The problem is they were not bad at being good.... they were good at being bad... Amaru liked this post
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QUOTE(mois @ Dec 6 2022, 10:55 AM) Funny this FTX issue only cause BTC to break 18k to 17k. By right, it should be in the bottom of sea already. Look like diamond hand area. That's because BTC has nothing to do with FTX but if you look at all the other ALT coins, the bloodbath is there. Look at Solana and a few others involved with FTX. FTX is not an issue with crypto but with the lack of governance. |
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QUOTE(dreamers1016 @ Apr 6 2023, 08:37 PM) has anyone experience getting blocked online transfer from bank side when trying to deal with P2P? Read BNM Exchange control rules. Nothing to do with P2P. Any foreign transfers will raise flags but that is not blocking. It is just a security feature for them to ensure that is it not fraud. Even local bank transfer of large sums I get called up by the bank before they complete the transfer nowadays. I just experienced it when trying to transfer to a seller at Kucoin https://www.bnm.gov.my/-/guide-to-the-exchange-control-rules |
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:43 PM) Do remember that Malaysia has a very thin market. Whoever that was selling practically blew through all the local buy orders. As each price point gets taken out, the next lower buy order gets fulfilled and you'd see price plunging faster than other countries. LUNO is not offering spot BTC pricing but pricing from the exchange order books which can differ from spot price. |
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QUOTE(DrEaMmyZ @ Aug 24 2023, 05:46 PM) If I only have a savings account for my bank, will that work or bank will give me call to ask about the multiple transactions? Or must I open a current account before withdrawing to bank? The bank won't call you. Luno is SCM approved, just like any other SCM approved brokers (stock brokers like Rakuten/M+). You can transfer money to luno using FPX and they do local transfer from their Ambank account to you. Bank's only call for unknown foreign transactions into Malaysian accounts that is under suspicion of money laundering. https://www.ambankgroup.com/eng/Announcemen...Pages/Luno.aspx |
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QUOTE(DrEaMmyZ @ Aug 25 2023, 07:24 AM) I see, but the amount that I cash out per month or per week cannot be too much right? Like is there a max amount (20k, 30k etc) or amount of transactions I can do for a savings account so bank won't have any problems with it? Cause I'm currently using Huobi to cash out, but I want to transfer to Luno and cash out because it seems much safer than P2P. It's a normal business (Luno) bank transfer to you. Just like people receiving their salaries from their employers. Banks don't chase you each time you get your salary. Luno is a locally registered company and that makes bank transfer less of a problem compared to people using personal accounts to do transfers. DrEaMmyZ liked this post
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