Story time folks.

Last year January in 2016, a few things happened.

We had a contentious scaling event with Bitcoin, Bitcoin Classic was among one of the solution to address it.

I poured money setting up Classic full nodes, and looked at genesis mining, they mentioned they'll support Bitcoin classic!

I was like great! Let me buy some hashpower to help!

Deposited 0.8 BTC with full intention of not seeing anything back. Then at feb 2016 they 180 degrees on Classic and that was that.

The daily payout only lasted 4 months, and no, forget about getting half of my coins back.

It was like 0.001......0.00001.......0.00000001......then nothing

Poof, bye bye 0.8 BTC

Then I diversified some money, like US$4000 into bnktothefuture, their plan very straightforward.

1/3 goes to cloud mining (haha reality haven't hit back then)

1/3 goes to hodling Bitcoin

1/3 goes to buying up a bunch of Bitcoin related companies

Same story, 0.0001.....0.00001......0.000001 and poof

Only Bitcoin core holding and some shares went up big time, barely covering that $390,000 fcuk up
Any more questions?

i only did few question already boring 

USD60K/year actually not bad 

I have RM10k there but I can't withdraw as it is still in level 1. Have submitted IC.

Not sure when they can check and verify me. 

If the balance could be transferred, it would be good.

You should tell me earlier so I sell my BTC to you.

everything on first page is very much relevant

wait i get my malaysian account first, then you can buy from me 

I charge a bit more only 
luotang another whaler reside outside malaysia and earn nice salary 
hahahaa

Don't refer to polo's USDT price, it's 1.03 1.05 now.

Check Gemini, GDAX and Coinhako for a better comparison.

I found a way to earn 4% to 5% if you have account in Gemini and CEX.IO.
You can buy cheap at Gemini then transfer the coins to CEX.IO to sell at premium.

Lets take 1 ETH as an example.
Currently Gemini buying price USD $351 while CEX.IO selling price is USD $380.
The difference between buy and sell is usd 29. After minus forex loses, transactions fees and using DBS 0% remit, you can earn about usd 14 (4% of your $351 investment)

If you use is on multiplier of 10 ETH, your profit will be $140 for $3510 investment.
When you buy at Gemini, instantly transfer to CEX.IO to sell. The time between buying and selling is about 14 minutes apart including transfer time between 2 exchanges. It reduce the risk for the coin price fluctuation and you earned minimum 4%.
It can be done to bitcoins also. Both ETH and bitcoins can achieve 4% earning between both exchanges. 

Do this trigger any suspicion or alarm bell on my bank account because of incoming and outgoing fund flowing through my account once per day? I scared my bank account will aroused suspicion on money laundering or illegal activities.

Anyone with same experience before?

I found a way to earn 4% to 5% if you have account in Gemini and CEX.IO.
You can buy cheap at Gemini then transfer the coins to CEX.IO to sell at premium.

Lets take 1 ETH as an example.
Currently Gemini buying price USD $351 while CEX.IO selling price is USD $380.
The difference between buy and sell is usd 29. After minus forex loses, transactions fees and using DBS 0% remit, you can earn about usd 14 (4% of your $351 investment)

If you use is on multiplier of 10 ETH, your profit will be $140 for $3510 investment.
When you buy at Gemini, instantly transfer to CEX.IO to sell. The time between buying and selling is about 14 minutes apart including transfer time between 2 exchanges. It reduce the risk for the coin price fluctuation and you earned minimum 4%.
It can be done to bitcoins also. Both ETH and bitcoins can achieve 4% earning between both exchanges. 

Do this trigger any suspicion or alarm bell on my bank account because of incoming and outgoing fund flowing through my account once per day? I scared my bank account will aroused suspicion on money laundering or illegal activities.

Anyone with same experience before?

Does this has to be owning DBS (SG) bank account? Without only MY bank account can do?

Updated with Bifinex as an example.

It is possible to earn 8% if you have account in Bifinex  and CEX.IO.

Lets take 1 ETH as an example. (in USD)
Bifinex buying $336
CEX.IO selling $376
Profit $40 (12% of your $336)

Minus
if using DBS 0% Remittance fees - 0% (depend on your bank remittance rate to wire transfer to Bifinex USA account)
Forex losses - 1.5%
BTC/ETH transmission fees from Bifinex to CEX.IO - 0.5%
Buying and selling fees at both exchanges 1%
CEX.IO Visa and Mastercard Withdrawal fees to your bank account 1.2% +usd $3.80

Net Profit 7.8% ($26)

The $3.80 is negligible if your investment is big amount.

If you use is on multiplier of 10 ETH, your profit will be $256.20 ($260-$3.80) for $3360 investment. 

I am in the midst of applying for Bifinex account since it is cheaper than Gemini.

Wow. The latest TenX AMA is very impressive.

So it's HOURLY payouts, you can hold PAY tokens outside of TenX wallet and manually withdraw the payouts, or you keep PAY tokens in TenX wallets and hourly ETH dividends can be spent without any fees!

Damn this is something else. This is something special indeed. Nice to know ATM withdrawal fee is only $2.75 from them, no need to bother with money changers with overseas holidays.

Shower thoughts, assume price of ETH corrects now, say it stays below $150. TenX card users still need to spend as usual, just with other stablecoins like DGX, so now it's more ETH dividend until price resumes its rise. Effectively an awesome hedge against other cryptos.

Mindblown

Yeah, but take note of the token lockout until August, which is Bitcoin fork month, take note of this token for now.
It's a very decent hedge, I really don't see much downside from hodling long term, there is a real need for crypto spending these days.

Once my limited edition card arrives on August, I'm deactivating my last UOB debit card, going to spend everything using ETH until DGX is available.
Can buy from panic sellers after it gets listed at exchanges on August, this is a rare chance to have an ETH hedge token.

brushed metal limited edition cards for 25 ETH and above, 750 are up for grabs. apart from that, maybe there's the slight chance of the tokens going parabolic and instant 2x upon listing.
1 ETH = 420 PAY for first 24 hours, rest assured this'll end under 30 minutes. lucky ICO guys are getting better deals than presale people.

anything that accepts Visa and Mastercard you can pay with crypto. can go Aussie bank and withdraw AUD too.

TenX is the company based in Singapore, current business model is the debit cards, but the biggest revenue potential lies with

Cryptographically secure
Offchain
Multi-asset
Instant
Transfer network

COMIT. allowing any blockchain to transact with each other via time locked, multisig smart contracts, and liquidity providers.

We refer Ethereum based minted coins as tokens, PAY is the token that TenX uses.

the returns are highly dependent upon customer and transaction growth, 0.5% of all transaction volume will be paid out hourly to all token holders in ETH.

Digix is currently undergoing security audit for their final release, we are expecting DGX (1 DGX = 1 gram gold)  being tradable around September.

Yes, I have allocated a portion of ETH for shopping and paying bills. Once Digix goes live it'll be converted to DGX, and eventually Maker DAI hopefully next year.
Yeah, I bought 375 ETH worth. Really solid team and very transparent, check out their TenX Vlogs.

TenX has three types of physical cards, the standard plastic ones can be ordered starting Tuesday, $15 each including shipping.

If you contribute 25 ETH or above in the presale or ICO, the first 1000 people will be entitled to a brushed metal TenX card. No functionality differences compared to standard.

If you're related to a Datuk and contribute 1250 ETH(!) in the presale or ICO, the first 50 people will be entitled to an exclusive card which comes with priority access to airport lounge, insurance and other perks.

Yes, every hour all token holders will be given payouts based on the global transaction volume, they can manually interact with contract to withdraw outside of TenX wallet, or keep PAY tokens in TenX wallet and have access to those ETH dividends without fees.
Alas. Founders edition could've been a reality had I avoided Bnktothefuture, thats okay.

It's just a card. Better focus on accumulating cheap PAY before people know its potential
https://www.smithandcrown.com/icos/
50% crypto of choice, 50% cash ready for August shopping season.

Possibly but it is unlikely we are seeing this in the regional market where credit is easily available and readily attractive.
The AMA video on Saturday kind of allude that the trial test in Singapore had disappointing spending patterns.

Curious if this would change significantly with the sales of their card for a start.

that's correct.

remember, the target demographic of TenX cards isn't people already used to Visa/Mastercard, but the ones without access to a bank.
SG has regulations against such crowdsales, but I'm sure most will either buy through exchanges or utilize VPNs.

there's a 20% bonus for first 24 hours, so it's 420 PAY per ETH.

You can thank UASF for the August uncertainties. the token value will ultimately based on 200,000 ETH raised in the short term.

that's correct, when the platform matures, and if crypto goes into massive correction, price of PAY would be the one dropping the least if not staying still, cause it means more ETH being bought every hour to be distributed.
You see, I'm an OG holder, I bought my first ETH at $4.50, that's 83x profit today. it's good financial decision to take profit as the price inches higher and higher, so I do it in the form of property purchases, portfolio adjustment, and crypto spending.

for newcomers who bought at $300~380 price, of course they shouldn't spend their ETH just yet. they could help contribute to the total transaction volume and earn PAY token by purchasing some gold tokens (DGX) using fiat and spend it on essentials, gold only moved 0.30% this past month, that's a good hedge against the depreciating fiat of some countries like Venezuela. The utility of such card is there.
yeah, the gold token would save failing currencies and preserve their spending power, I really really hope their code audit gets done soon.